1 Week After Trump Puts Tariff on Chinese Solar Panels, China Announces They'll Make Them in the US

It's a booming industry and it's contradictory that the right would think it's ok for the government to meddle in it to control it.

I bet there are some downsides to this that are conveniently left out. The panels will probably still cost more than before. The company will also be operating under a whole new set of unfamiliar regulations. The company has a greater than zero chance of not surviving the transition. There were probably better options.

Hopefully we've kept enough regulatory oversight in place to ensure they don't bring neglectful chinese manufacturing processes with them. People cheer for cutting regulation but most of it was there to protect the people from criminal negligence, exploitation, and destabilizing practices. We should expect negative consequences of the blanket deregulation to some degree.

Here's a question for you. Would it be worth growing GDP by an additional .5% - likely localized to the top - but also hurting public health by 100 billion (or some equivalent) - likely localized to the bottom/middle?
Somehow I knew the left would hate to see companies moving into America.

This company is not moving to America, they are putting in a single factory that is 90% automated to get around the tariffs


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They are manufacturing in America. People run fix, maintain machines as well as deliver and ship materials to and from the factory.

You Leftards hate America, that is obvious.

This from the zealot that puts party and president before country.

Waste of time trying to have an actual discussion with brain dead zealots who just parrot the party talking points.


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It's a booming industry and it's contradictory that the right would think it's ok for the government to meddle in it to control it.

I bet there are some downsides to this that are conveniently left out. The panels will probably still cost more than before. The company will also be operating under a whole new set of unfamiliar regulations. The company has a greater than zero chance of not surviving the transition. There were probably better options.

Hopefully we've kept enough regulatory oversight in place to ensure they don't bring neglectful chinese manufacturing processes with them. People cheer for cutting regulation but most of it was there to protect the people from criminal negligence, exploitation, and destabilizing practices. We should expect negative consequences of the blanket deregulation to some degree.

Here's a question for you. Would it be worth growing GDP by an additional .5% - likely localized to the top - but also hurting public health by 100 billion (or some equivalent) - likely localized to the bottom/middle?
Somehow I knew the left would hate to see companies moving into America.
Constructive criticism isn't hate. It's part of successful strategic thinking. Im open to discussion on it. Voluntarily ignoring the negatives or opposing perspectives is far worse.
Sucks having jobs moving from China to America for you anti American Leftards.
I'm doing well in America. Why would I hate it? Doesn't my concern for the well being of Americans help contradict your accusation that I hate America? And how does constructive criticism equate to hatred of America? Please answer this in particular.

You're showing a fair amount of bias refusing to acknoweldge any downsides to the market manipulation. And like I said, any successful enterprise would be engaging in constructive criticism via cost-benefit and feasibility analysis, etc. And they sure as heck don't consider it hate. It's good business. The same should be true for implementing market manipulations like Trump did. You did offer some anecdotal ideas in your other reply so you're not totally worthless in your own thread.
 
Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0


Didn't read the link did ya, it mentioned two solar panel companies that are coming to the US.


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It's a booming industry and it's contradictory that the right would think it's ok for the government to meddle in it to control it.

I bet there are some downsides to this that are conveniently left out. The panels will probably still cost more than before. The company will also be operating under a whole new set of unfamiliar regulations. The company has a greater than zero chance of not surviving the transition. There were probably better options.

Hopefully we've kept enough regulatory oversight in place to ensure they don't bring neglectful chinese manufacturing processes with them. People cheer for cutting regulation but most of it was there to protect the people from criminal negligence, exploitation, and destabilizing practices. We should expect negative consequences of the blanket deregulation to some degree.

Here's a question for you. Would it be worth growing GDP by an additional .5% - likely localized to the top - but also hurting public health by 100 billion (or some equivalent) - likely localized to the bottom/middle?
Somehow I knew the left would hate to see companies moving into America.

This company is not moving to America, they are putting in a single factory that is 90% automated to get around the tariffs


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They are manufacturing in America. People run fix, maintain machines as well as deliver and ship materials to and from the factory.

You Leftards hate America, that is obvious.

This from the zealot that puts party and president before country.

Waste of time trying to have an actual discussion with brain dead zealots who just parrot the party talking points.


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Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0

There is no company moving back, a Chinese company will set up a factory that is 90% automated and will still sell the cells cheaper than the US companies can.

So this does nothing to help the US companies, which was the stated goal of the tariff.


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Yes there is tard, the reason why the solar companies left was cheap labor China,

Name one just one overseas company Obama bought to America?
 
Trump’s move helps US solar-panel manufacturers, such as FirstSolar, Tesla, Suniva, and SolarWorld. But manufacturing only makes up about 14% of jobs in the US solar industry, and it is increasingly becoming more automated.

And this Chinese company gets around the tariffs and thus it does not help the US companies at all.




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Manufacturing jobs you idiot
 
It's a booming industry and it's contradictory that the right would think it's ok for the government to meddle in it to control it.

I bet there are some downsides to this that are conveniently left out. The panels will probably still cost more than before. The company will also be operating under a whole new set of unfamiliar regulations. The company has a greater than zero chance of not surviving the transition. There were probably better options.

Hopefully we've kept enough regulatory oversight in place to ensure they don't bring neglectful chinese manufacturing processes with them. People cheer for cutting regulation but most of it was there to protect the people from criminal negligence, exploitation, and destabilizing practices. We should expect negative consequences of the blanket deregulation to some degree.

Here's a question for you. Would it be worth growing GDP by an additional .5% - likely localized to the top - but also hurting public health by 100 billion (or some equivalent) - likely localized to the bottom/middle?
Somehow I knew the left would hate to see companies moving into America.

This company is not moving to America, they are putting in a single factory that is 90% automated to get around the tariffs


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Prove its 90% automated ...
 
Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0

There is no company moving back, a Chinese company will set up a factory that is 90% automated and will still sell the cells cheaper than the US companies can.

So this does nothing to help the US companies, which was the stated goal of the tariff.


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Yes there is tard, the reason why the solar companies left was cheap labor China,

Name one just one overseas company Obama bought to America?

This company did not leave America, it is a Chinese company from day one. They are not “coming to America”, they are building a single factory that is 90% automated to get around the Trump tariffs.

If, as Trump claims, the Chinese government is subsiding them so they can sell their panels cheaper, that cab still happen while they are making them here, so they can still sell them cheaper. Which means this move does not help American makers of solar panels, which was the stated goal of the tariff.




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Trump’s move helps US solar-panel manufacturers, such as FirstSolar, Tesla, Suniva, and SolarWorld. But manufacturing only makes up about 14% of jobs in the US solar industry, and it is increasingly becoming more automated.

And this Chinese company gets around the tariffs and thus it does not help the US companies at all.




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Manufacturing jobs you idiot
It’s amazing their brains continue to be able to send a signal to the heart muscle.
 
Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0

There is no company moving back, a Chinese company will set up a factory that is 90% automated and will still sell the cells cheaper than the US companies can.

So this does nothing to help the US companies, which was the stated goal of the tariff.


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Yes there is tard, the reason why the solar companies left was cheap labor China,

Name one just one overseas company Obama bought to America?

This company did not leave America, it is a Chinese company from day one. They are not “coming to America”, they are building a single factory that is 90% automated to get around the Trump tariffs.

If, as Trump claims, the Chinese government is subsiding them so they can sell their panels cheaper, that cab still happen while they are making them here, so they can still sell them cheaper. Which means this move does not help American makers of solar panels, which was the stated goal of the tariff.




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You really do hate to see America gaining jobs from China.

BTW, solar companies fled America during the Obama Error.

Solar Panel Maker Moves Work to China
 
Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0
Yet he refuses to bring his manufacturing jobs back to the USA..So he's still a loser to me..

Yep... The wildly successful .5 billion forced investment by us the people in Solyndra is a lofty benchmark for Trump to strive for.... Obama hit the ball out of the park on this and many other renewable energy enterprises. Ask yourself where our return is and where the money went...
 
Everything Trump is bragging about, had Obama the votes, he did it first. Trump is just a Zerox machine with orange hair.
 
Everything Trump is bragging about, had Obama the votes, he did it first. Trump is just a Zerox machine with orange hair.


Say what? All Obama did was copy off bush jr, tarp, car bailouts stimulus ,
His other ideas fucked up the economy, Obama care EPA regulations.
 
Everything Trump is bragging about, had Obama the votes, he did it first. Trump is just a Zerox machine with orange hair.
Is that why solar manufacturing moved to China under Obama and is moving back under Trump?
 
Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0
Yet he refuses to bring his manufacturing jobs back to the USA..So he's still a loser to me..

Yep... The wildly successful .5 billion forced investment by us the people in Solyndra is a lofty benchmark for Trump to strive for.... Obama hit the ball out of the park on this and many other renewable energy enterprises. Ask yourself where our return is and where the money went...
Do you measure all things Trump with an Oblama ruler?
 
Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0

There is no company moving back, a Chinese company will set up a factory that is 90% automated and will still sell the cells cheaper than the US companies can.

So this does nothing to help the US companies, which was the stated goal of the tariff.


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Yes there is tard, the reason why the solar companies left was cheap labor China,

Name one just one overseas company Obama bought to America?

This company did not leave America, it is a Chinese company from day one. They are not “coming to America”, they are building a single factory that is 90% automated to get around the Trump tariffs.

If, as Trump claims, the Chinese government is subsiding them so they can sell their panels cheaper, that cab still happen while they are making them here, so they can still sell them cheaper. Which means this move does not help American makers of solar panels, which was the stated goal of the tariff.




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Once again did solar manufacturing jobs leave America

A simple yes or no question..


And again name me one company that came to America because of Obama's anti business policies ??
 
Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0
Yet he refuses to bring his manufacturing jobs back to the USA..So he's still a loser to me..

Yep... The wildly successful .5 billion forced investment by us the people in Solyndra is a lofty benchmark for Trump to strive for.... Obama hit the ball out of the park on this and many other renewable energy enterprises. Ask yourself where our return is and where the money went...
Do you measure all things Trump with an Oblama ruler?
The Obama ruler is just a stub.
 
Well that's one company Trump single handly brought back from overseas ...


Trump : 1

Obama: 0
Yet he refuses to bring his manufacturing jobs back to the USA..So he's still a loser to me..

Yep... The wildly successful .5 billion forced investment by us the people in Solyndra is a lofty benchmark for Trump to strive for.... Obama hit the ball out of the park on this and many other renewable energy enterprises. Ask yourself where our return is and where the money went...
Do you measure all things Trump with an Oblama ruler?



Your not the one battling idiots on here who think a anti business president (Obama) is better than a pro buisines president (Trump )
 

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