151 years ago today: Democrats founded and staffed the Ku Klux Klan

Nor do Democrats put the Constitution and due process for citizens BEFORE partisan agenda. Timmy you won't find Democrats waving copies of the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution, but rainbow flags putting the beliefs of some people over the beliefs of others, while at the same time denouncing if Christians push their beliefs into public policy. It's only a constitutional violation if *Christians* do that, but LGBT can push THOSE relative beliefs on everyone else and penalize them for not complying. Because LIBERAL partisan beliefs are "more important" than Constitutional principles that protect everyone's beliefs equally. Conservative beliefs don't count, only liberal beliefs. To them the rainbow flag is a more important symbol than the US flag. Transgender bathroom policies should be worshipped and followed blindly, where anyone who questions security concerns for anatomical men using girls restrooms is attacked as a "bigot"; so LGBT creeds should come first over any other beliefs, and adopted by all people even while refusing to stand for the national anthem or to salute the flag " which should remain a free choice to reject." But not bathroom policies or free choice whether to believe and recognize gay marriage or not. only Liberals have the right to impose beliefs on the nation, but nobody else can or it violates "separation of church and state." Liberals are the exception because secular BELIEFS "don't count as imposing religion" so its legal for them and illegal for any other beliefs!

How do you think the ACA mandates got passed that deprive citizens of free choice? Only because Democrats in Congress voted for federal govt over personal free choice, and and a Democrat President endorsed it. Had a Republican President forced this bill, that requires citizens to pay to join Christian health ministries to be exempted from tax penalties, the liberals would have screamed for individual free choice. But as long as Democrats push partisan agenda, that trumps the Constitution and becomes the law of the land.

How many Constitutionalists are Democrats? I am one and can't find others. The other Democrats i know put party platform first before the Constitution. Why is that?



Why do you think they hate the ACLU , the greatest defender of our civil rights ?


:ack-1: :lmao:

Thanks for proving my point .

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Yeah, and McDonalds is the greatest advocate against obesity.

Then you tell me. Who is the greatest advocates of our civil rights?

Nra has the 2nd covered . But what about the rest of our rights .


What is your nationality?
 
It's hilarious the contortions democrats will go through to try and avoid responsibility. Of course, avoiding responsibility is one of the defining characteristics of democrats, and leftists in general.
 
It's hilarious the contortions democrats will go through to try and avoid responsibility. Of course, avoiding responsibility is one of the defining characteristics of democrats, and leftists in general.
I would be horrified to be a member of a political party helping them win, supportimg their causes, only to find out one day they started the kkk.....

It has to be disturbing on so many different levels......
 
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Note the scumbag in the upper right-hand corner.
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Democrats proposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
A majority of Democrats voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
A Democrat signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act into law.

Who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
The 1964 GOP Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.
President Ronald Reagan
President George Bush
“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”

Lyndon Johnson
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Who pushed the 1964 Civil Rights Act through Congress- Lyndon Johnson

Who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
The 1964 GOP Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.
President Ronald Reagan
President George Bush

Note how the GOP routinely nominated Presidential candidates who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act- which is explains why Martin Luther King Jr. called on African Americans to not vote for Republicans.
No. That is not correct. He did not push it. He was forced into it. Republicans had been pushing it for 100 years..

LOL- I love the Animal Farm tactics of your Right wing nut job revisionist.

President Kennedy proposed the Civil Rights.
When he was assassinated President Johnson used Kennedy's death to push the Civil Rights Act. forward.

And Reagan, Bush and Goldwater- all opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

A master of the art of practical politics, Lyndon Johnson came into the White House after the tragedy of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in 1963. He was energetic, shrewd, and hugely ambitious. Clifford Alexander, Jr., deputy counsel to the president and an African American, remembered President Johnson as a larger-than-life figure who was a tough but fair taskmaster. His legislative program "had such a positive effect on black Americans [it] was breathtaking when compared to the miniscule efforts of the past." The cornerstones of that program were the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Civil rights leaders from across America led by Martin Luther King, Jr. gathered in the East Room of the White House to witness the signing of the Civil Rights Act that signified a major victory in the struggle for racial equality to which they had dedicated their lives. President Johnson also made two political appointments–Robert Weaver as secretary of Housing and Urban Development and Thurgood Marshall as associate Supreme Court justice. For the first time African Americans had positions in the Cabinet and on the Supreme Court. President Johnson appointed more black judges than any president before him and opened the White House not only to black athletes and performers but also to black religious, civic and political leaders in significant numbers. Johnson saw his place in history as being directly related to the improvement of race relations in America and according to Alexander "he was a huge success."

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."
15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471
 
Why do you think they hate the ACLU , the greatest defender of our civil rights ?


:ack-1: :lmao:

Thanks for proving my point .

...






Yeah, and McDonalds is the greatest advocate against obesity.

Then you tell me. Who is the greatest advocates of our civil rights?

Nra has the 2nd covered . But what about the rest of our rights .


What is your nationality?

American. Now answer my question .

Funny how the righties in this place can never answer a direct question .

Who fights for our civil rights ?

Here, I'll answer it for you . The ACLU . That's why I am a member . I don't understand why the right is so anti ACLU, and then have the nerve to say they are "for the rights of Americans " .
 
A greater percentage of Republicans, in both the House and Senate, voted for the Civil Rights Act, than the percentage of Democrats.

House Democrats: 152-–96 (61%-39%)
House Republicans: 138–-34 (80%–20%)

Senate Democrats: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Senate Republicans: 27-6 (82%-18%)

Even though Democrats were in the majority in both houses, they would not have been able to pass it at all, unless such large majorities of Republicans also voted to pass. Fortunately the Republicans came through and saved the bill from the defeat Democrats alone would have given it.

Democrats have always supported racism. From their founding of the KKK, to their current majority membership in it, to the majority support of racist legislation in Congress even today.

If I were a Democrat, I'd try to fake as many excuses for not associating racism with Democrats as I could, just as the leftists in this thread do. The truth is just too painful for Democrats... as usual.

Aaaaaaaaand here he comes again posting the same debunked myths expecting different results.

Repeated post deserves repeated debunkment:

>> 80% of Republicans in the House and Senate voted for the bill. Less than 70% of Democrats did. Indeed, Minority Leader Republican Everett Dirksen led the fight to end the filibuster. Meanwhile, Democrats such as Richard Russell of Georgia and Strom Thurmond of South Carolina tried as hard as they could to sustain a filibuster.

Of course, it was also Democrats who helped usher the bill through the House, Senate, and ultimately a Democratic president who signed it into law. The bill wouldn't have passed without the support of Majority Leader Mike Mansfield of Montana, a Democrat. Majority Whip Hubert Humphrey, who basically split the Democratic party in two with his 1948 Democratic National Convention speech calling for equal rights for all, kept tabs on individual members to ensure the bill had the numbers to overcome the filibuster.

Put another way, party affiliation seems to be somewhat predictive, but something seems to be missing. So, what factor did best predicting voting?

You don't need to know too much history to understand that the South from the civil war to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 tended to be opposed to minority rights. This factor was separate from party identification or ideology. We can easily control for this variable by breaking up the voting by those states that were part of the confederacy and those that were not.

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You can see that geography was far more predictive of voting coalitions on the Civil Rights than party affiliation. What linked Dirksen and Mansfield was the fact that they weren't from the south. In fact, 90% of members of Congress from states (or territories) that were part of the Union voted in favor of the act, while less than 10% of members of Congress from the old Confederate states voted for it. This 80pt difference between regions is far greater than the 15pt difference between parties.

But what happens when we control for both party affiliation and region? As Sean Trende noted earlier this year, "sometimes relationships become apparent only after you control for other factors".

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In this case, it becomes clear that Democrats in the north and the south were more likely to vote for the bill than Republicans in the north and south respectively. This difference in both houses is statistically significant with over 95% confidence. It just so happened southerners made up a larger percentage of the Democratic than Republican caucus, which created the initial impression than Republicans were more in favor of the act.

Nearly 100% of Union state Democrats supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act compared to 85% of Republicans. None of the southern Republicans voted for the bill, while a small percentage of southern Democrats did.

The same pattern holds true when looking at ideology instead of party affiliation. The folks over at Voteview.com, who created DW-nominate scores to measure the ideology of congressmen and senators, found that the more liberal a congressman or senator was the more likely he would vote for the Civil Rights Act of 1964, once one controlled for a factor closely linked to geography. << ---- The Guardian, making the point I've been making on this site and elsewhere for years.
What a kick ass post! Well done.
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Thanks for proving my point .

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Yeah, and McDonalds is the greatest advocate against obesity.

Then you tell me. Who is the greatest advocates of our civil rights?

Nra has the 2nd covered . But what about the rest of our rights .


What is your nationality?

American. ... .


Then how is it that you don't understand America AT ALL?
 

Thanks for proving my point .

...






Yeah, and McDonalds is the greatest advocate against obesity.

Then you tell me. Who is the greatest advocates of our civil rights?

Nra has the 2nd covered . But what about the rest of our rights .


What is your nationality?

American. Now answer my question .

Funny how the righties in this place can never answer a direct question .

Who fights for our civil rights ?

Here, I'll answer it for you . The ACLU . That's why I am a member . I don't understand why the right is so anti ACLU, and then have the nerve to say they are "for the rights of Americans " .
Conservatives...

If left unchecked, you democrats would have us all on your plantation.....
 
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Democrats proposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
A majority of Democrats voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
A Democrat signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act into law.

Who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
The 1964 GOP Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.
President Ronald Reagan
President George Bush
“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”

Lyndon Johnson
2
Who pushed the 1964 Civil Rights Act through Congress- Lyndon Johnson

Who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
The 1964 GOP Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.
President Ronald Reagan
President George Bush

Note how the GOP routinely nominated Presidential candidates who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act- which is explains why Martin Luther King Jr. called on African Americans to not vote for Republicans.
No. That is not correct. He did not push it. He was forced into it. Republicans had been pushing it for 100 years..

LOL- I love the Animal Farm tactics of your Right wing nut job revisionist.

President Kennedy proposed the Civil Rights.
When he was assassinated President Johnson used Kennedy's death to push the Civil Rights Act. forward.

And Reagan, Bush and Goldwater- all opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

A master of the art of practical politics, Lyndon Johnson came into the White House after the tragedy of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in 1963. He was energetic, shrewd, and hugely ambitious. Clifford Alexander, Jr., deputy counsel to the president and an African American, remembered President Johnson as a larger-than-life figure who was a tough but fair taskmaster. His legislative program "had such a positive effect on black Americans [it] was breathtaking when compared to the miniscule efforts of the past." The cornerstones of that program were the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Civil rights leaders from across America led by Martin Luther King, Jr. gathered in the East Room of the White House to witness the signing of the Civil Rights Act that signified a major victory in the struggle for racial equality to which they had dedicated their lives. President Johnson also made two political appointments–Robert Weaver as secretary of Housing and Urban Development and Thurgood Marshall as associate Supreme Court justice. For the first time African Americans had positions in the Cabinet and on the Supreme Court. President Johnson appointed more black judges than any president before him and opened the White House not only to black athletes and performers but also to black religious, civic and political leaders in significant numbers. Johnson saw his place in history as being directly related to the improvement of race relations in America and according to Alexander "he was a huge success."

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."
15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471
This Johnson?

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Thanks for proving my point .

...






Yeah, and McDonalds is the greatest advocate against obesity.

Then you tell me. Who is the greatest advocates of our civil rights?

Nra has the 2nd covered . But what about the rest of our rights .


What is your nationality?

American. ... .


Then how is it that you don't understand America AT ALL?
I understand everything.

Answer my question .
 
Thanks for proving my point .

...






Yeah, and McDonalds is the greatest advocate against obesity.

Then you tell me. Who is the greatest advocates of our civil rights?

Nra has the 2nd covered . But what about the rest of our rights .


What is your nationality?

American. Now answer my question .

Funny how the righties in this place can never answer a direct question .

Who fights for our civil rights ?

Here, I'll answer it for you . The ACLU . That's why I am a member . I don't understand why the right is so anti ACLU, and then have the nerve to say they are "for the rights of Americans " .
Conservatives...

If left unchecked, you democrats would have us all on your plantation.....

Conservatives...

If left unchecked would have us all on your plantation...
 
“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”

Lyndon Johnson
2
Who pushed the 1964 Civil Rights Act through Congress- Lyndon Johnson

Who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
The 1964 GOP Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.
President Ronald Reagan
President George Bush

Note how the GOP routinely nominated Presidential candidates who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act- which is explains why Martin Luther King Jr. called on African Americans to not vote for Republicans.
No. That is not correct. He did not push it. He was forced into it. Republicans had been pushing it for 100 years..

LOL- I love the Animal Farm tactics of your Right wing nut job revisionist.

President Kennedy proposed the Civil Rights.
When he was assassinated President Johnson used Kennedy's death to push the Civil Rights Act. forward.

And Reagan, Bush and Goldwater- all opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

A master of the art of practical politics, Lyndon Johnson came into the White House after the tragedy of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in 1963. He was energetic, shrewd, and hugely ambitious. Clifford Alexander, Jr., deputy counsel to the president and an African American, remembered President Johnson as a larger-than-life figure who was a tough but fair taskmaster. His legislative program "had such a positive effect on black Americans [it] was breathtaking when compared to the miniscule efforts of the past." The cornerstones of that program were the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Civil rights leaders from across America led by Martin Luther King, Jr. gathered in the East Room of the White House to witness the signing of the Civil Rights Act that signified a major victory in the struggle for racial equality to which they had dedicated their lives. President Johnson also made two political appointments–Robert Weaver as secretary of Housing and Urban Development and Thurgood Marshall as associate Supreme Court justice. For the first time African Americans had positions in the Cabinet and on the Supreme Court. President Johnson appointed more black judges than any president before him and opened the White House not only to black athletes and performers but also to black religious, civic and political leaders in significant numbers. Johnson saw his place in history as being directly related to the improvement of race relations in America and according to Alexander "he was a huge success."

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."
15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471
This Johnson?H]

This Johnson

The Johnson who signed the three most significant Civil Rights Bills in the last 100 years.


And Republicans Reagan, Bush and Goldwater- all opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

A master of the art of practical politics, Lyndon Johnson came into the White House after the tragedy of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in 1963. He was energetic, shrewd, and hugely ambitious. Clifford Alexander, Jr., deputy counsel to the president and an African American, remembered President Johnson as a larger-than-life figure who was a tough but fair taskmaster. His legislative program "had such a positive effect on black Americans [it] was breathtaking when compared to the miniscule efforts of the past." The cornerstones of that program were the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Civil rights leaders from across America led by Martin Luther King, Jr. gathered in the East Room of the White House to witness the signing of the Civil Rights Act that signified a major victory in the struggle for racial equality to which they had dedicated their lives. President Johnson also made two political appointments–Robert Weaver as secretary of Housing and Urban Development and Thurgood Marshall as associate Supreme Court justice. For the first time African Americans had positions in the Cabinet and on the Supreme Court. President Johnson appointed more black judges than any president before him and opened the White House not only to black athletes and performers but also to black religious, civic and political leaders in significant numbers. Johnson saw his place in history as being directly related to the improvement of race relations in America and according to Alexander "he was a huge success.
 
It's hilarious the contortions democrats will go through to try and avoid responsibility. Of course, avoiding responsibility is one of the defining characteristics of democrats, and leftists in general.
I would be horrified to be a member of a political party helping them win, supportimg their causes, only to find out one day they started the kkk.......

Except of course no political party started the KKK.

The KKK was started by white men, white Christian men, White Christian Confederate veteran men.

But the KKK was not started by any party.

Apparently you are not horrified to be a member of party who had KKK members.
 
It's hilarious the contortions democrats will go through to try and avoid responsibility. Of course, avoiding responsibility is one of the defining characteristics of democrats, and leftists in general.
I would be horrified to be a member of a political party helping them win, supportimg their causes, only to find out one day they started the kkk.......

And I would be horrified if the quality of my research was so shoddy that I came up with a easily-disproved theory like that. That'd be damned embarrassing.

Why if my research were that bad, I might be reduced to posting one-line Peewee Herman posts that made no point, just to 'win' the site leaderboard. What kind of Dweebo would sink that low. :lol:
 
It's hilarious the contortions democrats will go through to try and avoid responsibility. Of course, avoiding responsibility is one of the defining characteristics of democrats, and leftists in general.

Democrats are responsible for the passage of the three most significant Civil Rights Bills in the last 100 years- we gladly accept that responsibility.

Democrats proposed, pushed through, and voted in the majority for, and signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Democrats proposed, pushed through Congress, voted in a majority for and signed the Voting Rights Act.

Democrats proposed, pushed through Congress, voted in a majority for and signed the 1968 Civil Rights Act.

Republicans nominated for President the man who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Republicans elected Ronald Reagan- who opposed all three Civil Rights acts.
Republicans elected George Bush- who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

What we are seeing from you- is the typical Right Wing nut attempt to re-write history.

And that brings us back to the words of Martin Luther King Jr.

The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right.
 
"During Radical Reconstruction, the Klan sought to eliminate the Republican Party in the South by intimidating Republican voters, both white and black. The Klan's long-term goal was to keep African Americans in the role of submissive laborers."
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"During Radical Reconstruction, the Klan sought to eliminate the Republican Party in the South by intimidating Republican voters, both white and black. The Klan's long-term goal was to keep African Americans in the role of submissive laborers."
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Here's a guy (I use the term advisedly) who puts random words into a quote box and then cites himself. :lmao:

Nothing like "reliable sources".
 
And what has been the Republican record since 1964?

In 1983, 112 federal lawmakers—90 representatives (77 Republicans, 13 Democrats) and 22 senators (18 Republicans, 4 Democrats) voted against commemorating Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy with a federal holiday on the third Monday in January.
Steve Scalise and other Republicans' anti-MLK Day votes under scrutiny

6 times as many Republicans voted against MLK Jr. Day than Democrats did.

A handful of other notable Republican opponents of the holiday during its multiple-year evolution from concept to reality include: President Ronald Reagan, although he did sign it when it arrived on his desk with a veto-proof majority; former Vice President Dick Cheney, who voted against the bill in 1978, but voted for it in 1983; and former Texas Congressman Ron Paul, who was another nay vote in 1983.
 

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