200 million dead and Obama sez there's no difference between capitalism and communism

[Wildman]

Name anything that is uniquely Marxist that Obama supports.

HATE AMERICA FIRST!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Name anything that is uniquely Marxist that Obama supports.

HATE AMERICA FIRST!!

Wrong. Try again.

 

[elektra]

Obama is a Marxist, pure and simple, that modern Marxism realizes they must take money from the Capitalists is not proof their ideology is not Marxism. If you read what the modern Marxist states, they believe they need a World wide revolution to bring Marxism into full main stream power.

Name anything that is uniquely Marxist that Obama supports.

Marxism

 

[elektra]

Obama is a Marxist, pure and simple, that modern Marxism realizes they must take money from the Capitalists is not proof their ideology is not Marxism. If you read what the modern Marxist states, they believe they need a World wide revolution to bring Marxism into full main stream power.

That is nothing new as it has been a goal of the Marxist crowd for over 100 years...


What Marxist programs has Oblama implemented?

Why would Obama have to implement a Marxist program in order for Obama to be a Marxist? Before there can be true Marxism you must destroy what or who will fight against Marxism. 1st order of business is to bring about our destruction. Certainly the Policies and executive orders that Obama issues can be argued as to being destructive.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Obama is a Marxist, pure and simple, that modern Marxism realizes they must take money from the Capitalists is not proof their ideology is not Marxism. If you read what the modern Marxist states, they believe they need a World wide revolution to bring Marxism into full main stream power.

That is nothing new as it has been a goal of the Marxist crowd for over 100 years...


What Marxist programs has Oblama implemented?

Why would Obama have to implement a Marxist program in order for Obama to be a Marxist? Before there can be true Marxism you must destroy what or who will fight against Marxism. 1st order of business is to bring about our destruction. Certainly the Policies and executive orders that Obama issues can be argued as to being destructive.

You don't know what Marxism is. That's your first problem.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Obama is a Marxist, pure and simple, that modern Marxism realizes they must take money from the Capitalists is not proof their ideology is not Marxism. If you read what the modern Marxist states, they believe they need a World wide revolution to bring Marxism into full main stream power.

Name anything that is uniquely Marxist that Obama supports.

if you don't thnk obama wants to disarm gun owners you're in a alternative universe.
When he used the IRS to subvert tea party groups.
When criticizes bush policies, and then overthrows Lybia is that a right or left tactic?
Uses lies and intimidation to push his agenda's.

 

[rightwinger]

That's more than half the United States

Obama Praises Communism…The Death of 200 Million People Is Meaningless

When did Obama ever say there is no difference between Communism and Capitalism?

Even you bogus link does not support it

 

[g5000]

That's more than half the United States

Obama Praises Communism…The Death of 200 Million People Is Meaningless

I doubt he ever said that

He didn't.

 

[elektra]

You don't know what Marxism is. That's your first problem.

You are have no education or knowledge of what is going on, you are who we must fight, ignorance is your problem.

 

[rightwinger]

Yet another bogus thread

 

[Agit8r]

You got a legitimate source for your silly little story?

There;s plenty of sources out there But you have a to silly of little brain to look them up

You're trying to make a case. People are telling you that your source is rubbish. Your response is to tell others to do you work for you.

Ok, I'll act stupid then we'll be on the same level.

Oh good, more personal insults.

You must be talking about bulldog

Why don't you try and convince people that your point is correct, rather than head of to insults at the first sign of someone pointing something out that isn't correct?

So attacking sources isn't the work of a weak mind hey

That's more than half the United States

Obama Praises Communism…The Death of 200 Million People Is Meaningless

If you think Obama is a Communism lover, or even a "Progressive" you haven't" been paying attention. He dropped the leftie masquerade 2 min. after winning his first term.
Even before he was elected he set a record for contributions from Wall St. and some of the baddest of the bad actors in the credit default swindles that cost the American taxpayers 10's of $billions.

businessinsider.com said;

"Of the 244 Obama campaign "bundlers," 80 work in finance, insurance, and real estate. Politico's Byron Tau and Ben Smith report today that many of the Obama bundlers have official business before the U.S. government".

One year into his Presidency, which he won in part with promises of reining in Wall St. greed globalresearch.ca said;

"What’s taken place in the year since Obama won the presidency has turned out to be one of the most dramatic political about-faces in our history."

He got rid of his progressive leaning pre-election advisors(who must have helped him with a progressive sounding vocabulary) and packed his new administration in the;

"key economic positions in his White House, the very people who caused the crisis in the first place. This new team of bubble-fattened ex-bankers and laissez-faire intellectuals then proceeded to sell us all out, instituting a massive, trickle-up bailout and systematically gutting regulatory reform from the inside".

I think that's a bit exaggerated but even a conservative , Rep. Cliff Stearns, Republican from Florida, scolded him for his one percenter policies, saying;
“You can’t expect these people to do anything other than protect Wall Street,”

To put it in the starkest terms, his continuation of the loosy-goosey credit habits of the financial industry, encouraged by his first address to Congress may have set the game up for the "big one", no way the American people with their new-found rage at the greed obsessed 1%ers who have continued to suck the cream out of the American economy, are going to allow another bailout. The house of cards may really fall apart the next time. Some of the real econo-crazies, the gold hoarders and the like are predicting econogeddon, people heading to the hills to eat berries and raiding chicken coop type scenarios. He started the panic early with that first address, stressing;

"the importance of getting Americans to borrow like crazy again. “Credit is the lifeblood of the economy,” he declared, pledging “the full force of the federal government to ensure that the major banks that Americans depend on have enough confidence and enough money."

Oh yeah, those nutbar Obama haters as usual got it all wrong and as usual stuck with their tactics of selective and out-of-context quotes. Obama spent the last half of that speech in Argentina praising market economies. The nutbars are so blinded by hate they can't see the truth. Here's the rest of what he said;

​

Colonial capitalism and communism both killed tens of millions of people. The precise numbers are a source of considerable dispute.

Also people use plain figures, but then China (world's most populous country) and Russia (world's largest country) were part of this, meaning a lot of people were under Communism. Also their figure might include ALL DEATHS in WW2, simply because Russia played a part, or all deaths caused by war in the Russian/German sphere, as if Russia being invaded by German was the fault of the Communists.

Colonial capitalism and communism both killed tens of millions of people. The precise numbers are a source of considerable dispute.

Also people use plain figures, but then China (world's most populous country) and Russia (world's largest country) were part of this, meaning a lot of people were under Communism. Also their figure might include ALL DEATHS in WW2, simply because Russia played a part, or all deaths caused by war in the Russian/German sphere, as if Russia being invaded by German was the fault of the Communists.

You got a legitimate source for your silly little story?

There;s plenty of sources out there But you have a to silly of little brain to look them up

You're trying to make a case. People are telling you that your source is rubbish. Your response is to tell others to do you work for you.

Ok, I'll act stupid then we'll be on the same level.

Oh good, more personal insults.

Why don't you try and convince people that your point is correct, rather than head of to insults at the first sign of someone pointing something out that isn't correct?

That's more than half the United States

Obama Praises Communism…The Death of 200 Million People Is Meaningless

If you think Obama is a Communism lover, or even a "Progressive" you haven't" been paying attention. He dropped the leftie masquerade 2 min. after winning his first term.
Even before he was elected he set a record for contributions from Wall St. and some of the baddest of the bad actors in the credit default swindles that cost the American taxpayers 10's of $billions.

businessinsider.com said;

"Of the 244 Obama campaign "bundlers," 80 work in finance, insurance, and real estate. Politico's Byron Tau and Ben Smith report today that many of the Obama bundlers have official business before the U.S. government".

One year into his Presidency, which he won in part with promises of reining in Wall St. greed globalresearch.ca said;

"What’s taken place in the year since Obama won the presidency has turned out to be one of the most dramatic political about-faces in our history."

He got rid of his progressive leaning pre-election advisors(who must have helped him with a progressive sounding vocabulary) and packed his new administration in the;

"key economic positions in his White House, the very people who caused the crisis in the first place. This new team of bubble-fattened ex-bankers and laissez-faire intellectuals then proceeded to sell us all out, instituting a massive, trickle-up bailout and systematically gutting regulatory reform from the inside".

I think that's a bit exaggerated but even a conservative , Rep. Cliff Stearns, Republican from Florida, scolded him for his one percenter policies, saying;
“You can’t expect these people to do anything other than protect Wall Street,”

To put it in the starkest terms, his continuation of the loosy-goosey credit habits of the financial industry, encouraged by his first address to Congress may have set the game up for the "big one", no way the American people with their new-found rage at the greed obsessed 1%ers who have continued to suck the cream out of the American economy, are going to allow another bailout. The house of cards may really fall apart the next time. Some of the real econo-crazies, the gold hoarders and the like are predicting econogeddon, people heading to the hills to eat berries and raiding chicken coop type scenarios. He started the panic early with that first address, stressing;

"the importance of getting Americans to borrow like crazy again. “Credit is the lifeblood of the economy,” he declared, pledging “the full force of the federal government to ensure that the major banks that Americans depend on have enough confidence and enough money."

Oh yeah, those nutbar Obama haters as usual got it all wrong and as usual stuck with their tactics of selective and out-of-context quotes. Obama spent the last half of that speech in Argentina praising market economies. The nutbars are so blinded by hate they can't see the truth. Here's the rest of what he said;

​

Colonial capitalism and communism both killed tens of millions of people. The precise numbers are a source of considerable dispute.

Also people use plain figures, but then China (world's most populous country) and Russia (world's largest country) were part of this, meaning a lot of people were under Communism. Also their figure might include ALL DEATHS in WW2, simply because Russia played a part, or all deaths caused by war in the Russian/German sphere, as if Russia being invaded by German was the fault of the Communists.

Moa, Lenin, Pot, Stalin for the most part; had nothing to do with world war 2.

Regardless, the differences between colonial capitalism and communism aren't very significant, because the methods they employed were not much different. You look at corporate central planning in India, Africa, or Indochina, and difference is hard to distinguish from the "left-wing" systems that replaced them.

The plain fact is that any system in which all to political and economic power rests in the same few hands, will result in the same degree of tyranny for the average person, regardless of what window dressing is put on it.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

That's more than half the United States

Obama Praises Communism…The Death of 200 Million People Is Meaningless

You got a legitimate source for your silly little story?

There;s plenty of sources out there But you have a to silly of little brain to look them up

You're trying to make a case. People are telling you that your source is rubbish. Your response is to tell others to do you work for you.

If you don't like the source, produce something that counters the source. Yeah, you're going to have to do that yourself.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

There;s plenty of sources out there But you have a to silly of little brain to look them up

You're trying to make a case. People are telling you that your source is rubbish. Your response is to tell others to do you work for you.

Ok, I'll act stupid then we'll be on the same level.

Oh good, more personal insults.

You must be talking about bulldog

Why don't you try and convince people that your point is correct, rather than head of to insults at the first sign of someone pointing something out that isn't correct?

So attacking sources isn't the work of a weak mind hey

That's more than half the United States

Obama Praises Communism…The Death of 200 Million People Is Meaningless

If you think Obama is a Communism lover, or even a "Progressive" you haven't" been paying attention. He dropped the leftie masquerade 2 min. after winning his first term.
Even before he was elected he set a record for contributions from Wall St. and some of the baddest of the bad actors in the credit default swindles that cost the American taxpayers 10's of $billions.

businessinsider.com said;

"Of the 244 Obama campaign "bundlers," 80 work in finance, insurance, and real estate. Politico's Byron Tau and Ben Smith report today that many of the Obama bundlers have official business before the U.S. government".

One year into his Presidency, which he won in part with promises of reining in Wall St. greed globalresearch.ca said;

"What’s taken place in the year since Obama won the presidency has turned out to be one of the most dramatic political about-faces in our history."

He got rid of his progressive leaning pre-election advisors(who must have helped him with a progressive sounding vocabulary) and packed his new administration in the;

"key economic positions in his White House, the very people who caused the crisis in the first place. This new team of bubble-fattened ex-bankers and laissez-faire intellectuals then proceeded to sell us all out, instituting a massive, trickle-up bailout and systematically gutting regulatory reform from the inside".

I think that's a bit exaggerated but even a conservative , Rep. Cliff Stearns, Republican from Florida, scolded him for his one percenter policies, saying;
“You can’t expect these people to do anything other than protect Wall Street,”

To put it in the starkest terms, his continuation of the loosy-goosey credit habits of the financial industry, encouraged by his first address to Congress may have set the game up for the "big one", no way the American people with their new-found rage at the greed obsessed 1%ers who have continued to suck the cream out of the American economy, are going to allow another bailout. The house of cards may really fall apart the next time. Some of the real econo-crazies, the gold hoarders and the like are predicting econogeddon, people heading to the hills to eat berries and raiding chicken coop type scenarios. He started the panic early with that first address, stressing;

"the importance of getting Americans to borrow like crazy again. “Credit is the lifeblood of the economy,” he declared, pledging “the full force of the federal government to ensure that the major banks that Americans depend on have enough confidence and enough money."

Oh yeah, those nutbar Obama haters as usual got it all wrong and as usual stuck with their tactics of selective and out-of-context quotes. Obama spent the last half of that speech in Argentina praising market economies. The nutbars are so blinded by hate they can't see the truth. Here's the rest of what he said;

​

Colonial capitalism and communism both killed tens of millions of people. The precise numbers are a source of considerable dispute.

Also people use plain figures, but then China (world's most populous country) and Russia (world's largest country) were part of this, meaning a lot of people were under Communism. Also their figure might include ALL DEATHS in WW2, simply because Russia played a part, or all deaths caused by war in the Russian/German sphere, as if Russia being invaded by German was the fault of the Communists.

Colonial capitalism and communism both killed tens of millions of people. The precise numbers are a source of considerable dispute.

Also people use plain figures, but then China (world's most populous country) and Russia (world's largest country) were part of this, meaning a lot of people were under Communism. Also their figure might include ALL DEATHS in WW2, simply because Russia played a part, or all deaths caused by war in the Russian/German sphere, as if Russia being invaded by German was the fault of the Communists.

There;s plenty of sources out there But you have a to silly of little brain to look them up

You're trying to make a case. People are telling you that your source is rubbish. Your response is to tell others to do you work for you.

Ok, I'll act stupid then we'll be on the same level.

Oh good, more personal insults.

Why don't you try and convince people that your point is correct, rather than head of to insults at the first sign of someone pointing something out that isn't correct?

That's more than half the United States

Obama Praises Communism…The Death of 200 Million People Is Meaningless

If you think Obama is a Communism lover, or even a "Progressive" you haven't" been paying attention. He dropped the leftie masquerade 2 min. after winning his first term.
Even before he was elected he set a record for contributions from Wall St. and some of the baddest of the bad actors in the credit default swindles that cost the American taxpayers 10's of $billions.

businessinsider.com said;

"Of the 244 Obama campaign "bundlers," 80 work in finance, insurance, and real estate. Politico's Byron Tau and Ben Smith report today that many of the Obama bundlers have official business before the U.S. government".

One year into his Presidency, which he won in part with promises of reining in Wall St. greed globalresearch.ca said;

"What’s taken place in the year since Obama won the presidency has turned out to be one of the most dramatic political about-faces in our history."

He got rid of his progressive leaning pre-election advisors(who must have helped him with a progressive sounding vocabulary) and packed his new administration in the;

"key economic positions in his White House, the very people who caused the crisis in the first place. This new team of bubble-fattened ex-bankers and laissez-faire intellectuals then proceeded to sell us all out, instituting a massive, trickle-up bailout and systematically gutting regulatory reform from the inside".

I think that's a bit exaggerated but even a conservative , Rep. Cliff Stearns, Republican from Florida, scolded him for his one percenter policies, saying;
“You can’t expect these people to do anything other than protect Wall Street,”

To put it in the starkest terms, his continuation of the loosy-goosey credit habits of the financial industry, encouraged by his first address to Congress may have set the game up for the "big one", no way the American people with their new-found rage at the greed obsessed 1%ers who have continued to suck the cream out of the American economy, are going to allow another bailout. The house of cards may really fall apart the next time. Some of the real econo-crazies, the gold hoarders and the like are predicting econogeddon, people heading to the hills to eat berries and raiding chicken coop type scenarios. He started the panic early with that first address, stressing;

"the importance of getting Americans to borrow like crazy again. “Credit is the lifeblood of the economy,” he declared, pledging “the full force of the federal government to ensure that the major banks that Americans depend on have enough confidence and enough money."

Oh yeah, those nutbar Obama haters as usual got it all wrong and as usual stuck with their tactics of selective and out-of-context quotes. Obama spent the last half of that speech in Argentina praising market economies. The nutbars are so blinded by hate they can't see the truth. Here's the rest of what he said;

​

Colonial capitalism and communism both killed tens of millions of people. The precise numbers are a source of considerable dispute.

Also people use plain figures, but then China (world's most populous country) and Russia (world's largest country) were part of this, meaning a lot of people were under Communism. Also their figure might include ALL DEATHS in WW2, simply because Russia played a part, or all deaths caused by war in the Russian/German sphere, as if Russia being invaded by German was the fault of the Communists.

Moa, Lenin, Pot, Stalin for the most part; had nothing to do with world war 2.

Regardless, the differences between colonial capitalism and communism aren't very significant, because the methods they employed were not much different. You look at corporate central planning in India, Africa, or Indochina, and difference is hard to distinguish from the "left-wing" systems that replaced them.

The plain fact is that any system in which all to political and economic power rests in the same few hands, will result in the same degree of tyranny for the average person, regardless of what window dressing is put on it.

Capitalism and communism are light years apart.

 

[elektra]

The Gulags of Stalin murdered so many, no equal in any other form of Government. Marxism is the number one killer in the World.

 

[2aguy]

Colonial capitalism and communism both killed tens of millions of people. The precise numbers are a source of considerable dispute.

Also people use plain figures, but then China (world's most populous country) and Russia (world's largest country) were part of this, meaning a lot of people were under Communism. Also their figure might include ALL DEATHS in WW2, simply because Russia played a part, or all deaths caused by war in the Russian/German sphere, as if Russia being invaded by German was the fault of the Communists.

Wrong....deaths at the hands of socialists are not war dead..they are people murdered for simply resisting or being in the way of communist goals....

 

[Agit8r]

That's more than half the United States

Obama Praises Communism…The Death of 200 Million People Is Meaningless

You got a legitimate source for your silly little story?

There;s plenty of sources out there But you have a to silly of little brain to look them up

You're trying to make a case. People are telling you that your source is rubbish. Your response is to tell others to do you work for you.

If you don't like the source, produce something that counters the source. Yeah, you're going to have to do that yourself.

See, those of us with functioning neocortexes check our facts in order to keep from making fools of ourselves. All it shows when you rely on an unsupported source, is that you are not able to think for yourself--that you are able to be spoon-fed nonsense, so that your amygdala responds.

 

[Agit8r]

The Gulags of Stalin murdered so many, no equal in any other form of Government. Marxism is the number one killer in the World.

Oh? How many was that?

 

[Militants]

I am Marxist and I've no killing feelings so far. Or my dog how I kill in hood. And the polices drive me to mental house and between 2004 - 2006 I was in psykical houses.

2006 - 2016 I am home in my over 12.000 people citizen.

 

[Searcher44]

Directly from that crackpot link, quoting President Obama:

"...you should be practical and just choose from what works. You don’t have to worry about whether it really fits into socialist theory or capitalist theory. You should just decide what works.”

Now who wants to take issue with that statement? Debate me.

Good luck trying to get honest debate from people like these. They interpret events through a subjective filter derived from talk radio's vicious hatred of Obama, lack of fundamental knowledge of true history, FOX news type "fact's"(that's a shorthand I think you understand). It's like the original flaws in the Hubble's mirrors, the image output was distorted and useless no matter the technological miracles and cost of the craft itself. You'd be debating an opponent suffering from the GIGO syndrome. I've tried it hundreds of times, it's like pounding your head against the wall, you finally decide it's not going to cure your headache.

And I have a different take
the marriage between capitalism and communism has been tried. It's called fascism.

I know you have "a different take". I tried to give NYC a description of it. He'll probably figure out what I mean, you never will.

the man is evil and speaks out of both sides of his ass. I wouldn't let my children near him to listen to his spew. He goes over to lecture the children in other countries. who made him King of the world.

As for you. You're just a plain old garden variety lying racist puke, I wouldn't waste three seconds trying to have a conversation with a slithering forked-tongued snaky witch. The whole board is demeaned by this infection, of too many of your ilk.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Yet another bogus thread

Obama on capitalism vs. communism: ‘Just choose from what works’