240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

[Confounding]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

 

[beagle9]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

. And this means what to science ?

 

[Freewill]

Yep a guy using a weight and rope is exactly the same as a satellite image. A sextant is much more accurate then is GPS.

 

[westwall]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

 

[beagle9]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

. And this means what to science ?

It lends support to the idea that we are witnessing a mass extinction event, and not just of coral.

 

[beagle9]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

. The whole reasoning behind this map thread is to get to climate, and climate control or global warming. That's where the desperation lay in this thread.

 

[beagle9]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

. And this means what to science ?

It lends support to the idea that we are witnessing a mass extinction event, and not just of coral.

. Oh yeah... You're fearing the extinction of the Demon-crats if none of this bullcrap sticks right ?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

. The whole reasoning behind this map thread is to get to climate, and climate control or global warming. That's where the desperation lay in this thread.

What an absurd comment... As if the maker of the map was aware of anything you are talking about. The coral is dying. Either you care, or you do not. Don't embarrass yourself with absurd, contrived comments. Just say you don't give a shit, and move on.

 

[beagle9]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

. The whole reasoning behind this map thread is to get to climate, and climate control or global warming. That's where the desperation lay in this thread.

What an absurd comment... As if the maker of the map was aware of anything you are talking about. The coral is dying. Either you care, or you do not. Don't embarrass yourself with absurd, contrived comments. Just say you don't give a shit, and move on.

Huh ? Now what does it have to do with the maker of the map ????????? Nothing !!!!! It's the modern interpretation of the differences between the maps of old, and the maps of new, and then the interpretation of the information that can be used for nafarious purposes. Ok, I don't give a bullcrap, so I'm moving on now..

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

. The whole reasoning behind this map thread is to get to climate, and climate control or global warming. That's where the desperation lay in this thread.

What an absurd comment... As if the maker of the map was aware of anything you are talking about. The coral is dying. Either you care, or you do not. Don't embarrass yourself with absurd, contrived comments. Just say you don't give a shit, and move on.

Huh ? Now what does it have to do with the maker of the map ????????? Nothing !!!!! It's the modern interpretation of the differences between the maps of old, and the maps of new, and then the interpretation of the information that can be used for nafarious purposes. Ok, I don't give a bullcrap, so I'm moving on now..

"Modern interpretation"


Another ridiculous comment. Those two maps show a difference in the amount of coral. That's not interpretation, it's fact. A person from the year 1700 would acknowledge this. But not you, no sir.

 

[beagle9]

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

. The whole reasoning behind this map thread is to get to climate, and climate control or global warming. That's where the desperation lay in this thread.

What an absurd comment... As if the maker of the map was aware of anything you are talking about. The coral is dying. Either you care, or you do not. Don't embarrass yourself with absurd, contrived comments. Just say you don't give a shit, and move on.

Huh ? Now what does it have to do with the maker of the map ????????? Nothing !!!!! It's the modern interpretation of the differences between the maps of old, and the maps of new, and then the interpretation of the information that can be used for nafarious purposes. Ok, I don't give a bullcrap, so I'm moving on now..

"Modern interpretation"


Another ridiculous comment. Those two maps show a difference in the amount of coral. That's not interpretation, it's fact. A person from the year 1700 would acknowledge this. But not you, no sir.

. Not ridiculous if the interpretation is attempted to be used for nefarious purposes.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

. The whole reasoning behind this map thread is to get to climate, and climate control or global warming. That's where the desperation lay in this thread.

What an absurd comment... As if the maker of the map was aware of anything you are talking about. The coral is dying. Either you care, or you do not. Don't embarrass yourself with absurd, contrived comments. Just say you don't give a shit, and move on.

Huh ? Now what does it have to do with the maker of the map ????????? Nothing !!!!! It's the modern interpretation of the differences between the maps of old, and the maps of new, and then the interpretation of the information that can be used for nafarious purposes. Ok, I don't give a bullcrap, so I'm moving on now..

"Modern interpretation"


Another ridiculous comment. Those two maps show a difference in the amount of coral. That's not interpretation, it's fact. A person from the year 1700 would acknowledge this. But not you, no sir.

. Not ridiculous if the interpretation is attempted to be used for nefarious purposes.

I wonder who we should ask? Blog-educated message boarders, or scientists? I gues we'll never know....

 

[toobfreak]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

On the down side, the coral reefs are a VERY important part of our ecostructure that we cannot afford to lose. If they died, it would set off a whole chain of undesirable effects. If they are dying off, we need to get to the bottom of the cause and fix it (scientists ARE studying the issue and we may or may not be able to correct it).

On the other hand, two years of data of uncertain integrity is not very much to go on. The maps could be grossly wrong (as a cartography hobbyist, I know many old maps were way wrong), or 100 years before that map was made, the reefs could have been smaller than today (just for example) and fluctuate through some natural variation.

Bottom line: it is something of concern that we need to focus a lot of attention on and if found to be caused mainly by us, we need to work hard to try to stop it. But if we found that we had to, say, give up electricity and go back to wood stoves to save the reef, guess which one would lose?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

On the down side, the coral reefs are a VERY important part of our ecostructure that we cannot afford to lose. If they died, it would set off a whole chain of undesirable effects. If they are dying off, we need to get to the bottom of the cause and fix it (scientists ARE studying the issue and we may or may not be able to correct it).

On the other hand, two years of data of uncertain integrity is not very much to go on. The maps could be grossly wrong (as a cartography hobbyist, I know many old maps were way wrong), or 100 years before that map was made, the reefs could have been smaller than today (just for example) and fluctuate through some natural variation.

Bottom line: it is something of concern that we need to focus a lot of attention on and if found to be caused mainly by us, we need to work hard to try to stop it. But if we found that we had to, say, give up electricity and go back to wood stoves to save the reef, guess which one would lose?

All fair points, but I have to think we're smart enough to mitigate the disaster without insisting that the world retreat to the stone age. Vice News did a piece on some scientists using "assisted evolution" to bring back coral populations. They already have a plan to do it worldwide. At this point, it's a matter of making it cheaper and more efficient.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

The dragons are no longer there either

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Save the coral, permanently evacuate all of Florida forever

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

Drill, Baby, Drill!
Why should anybody but goofy escapist misfits care about dead sea worms? We should pull the plug on the "Everything Is Connected" cult.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

. And this means what to science ?

Why the Green Giant Is Jolly

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