32 million still not insured

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

And when your folks were in charge it was almost 45 mllion, my bogus friend.

Are you seriously defending spending $1.2 trillion over ten years for 12 million people, many of which already had insurance prior to the passage of ObamaCare?

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am seriously saying our GOP with help from the Dems fucked it up, yes, Taz.

You think Trump, if elected, will throw out ACA and go back to the train wreck we had before?

Yeah, big changes are coming, so get ready for it.

 

[Greenbeard]

The idea that within eight years the public suddenly going to embrace single payer is absurd. A good chunk of the public is fully aware of the problems caused by ObamaCare. They aren't going to double down. Single payer is unaffordable, unattainable, and unconstitutional.

Doesn't seem all that absurd. The right has coopted the attacks of the left at this point. Critics on both sides have converged on what "the problems" are: the hallmarks of any market-based system. Consumer cost-sharing. Premiums. Networks.

There's only one type of model that doesn't have any of those things.

Even the GOP frontrunner at this point has expressed admiration for single-payer systems.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I am seriously saying our GOP with help from the Dems fucked it up, yes, Taz.

You think Trump, if elected, will throw out ACA and go back to the train wreck we had before?

Yeah, big changes are coming, so get ready for it.

The system we have now is the train wreck compared to what we had before. Yes, changes maybe coming, but it's not going to be single payer. I would bet my entire retirement fund that there will be no single payer in this country two presidential elections from now like you claimed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am seriously saying our GOP with help from the Dems fucked it up, yes, Taz.

You think Trump, if elected, will throw out ACA and go back to the train wreck we had before?

Yeah, big changes are coming, so get ready for it.

The system we have now is the train wreck compared to what we had before. Yes, changes maybe coming, but it's not going to be single payer. I would bet my entire retirement fund that there will be no single payer in this country two presidential elections from now like you claimed.

Would you if you had an all-Democratic government? That is possible with the implosion of our GOP.

 

[rdean]

another government failure.

Republicans in Red States are blocking health care. They really do mean "let them die".

Republican lawmakers block bids to expand Medicaid

Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Five Major Ways That Republicans Are Trying To Sabotage Obamacare

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

 

[tyroneweaver]

another government failure.

Republicans in Red States are blocking health care. They really do mean "let them die".

Republican lawmakers block bids to expand Medicaid

Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Five Major Ways That Republicans Are Trying To Sabotage Obamacare

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

You must be the 2nd of a set of Twins, because no one person could be as dumb as you.

 

[Arianrhod]

another government failure.

Republicans in Red States are blocking health care. They really do mean "let them die".

Republican lawmakers block bids to expand Medicaid

Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Five Major Ways That Republicans Are Trying To Sabotage Obamacare

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

You must be the 2nd of a set of Twins, because no one person could be as dumb as you.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the RW non-response to Anything It Does Not Like - a contentless flame that will go unremarked by staff because, well, Reasons.

This is a good thing. It shows that the RW is intellectually bankrupt, and it is why it loses.

 

[tyroneweaver]

And when your folks were in charge it was almost 45 mllion, my bogus friend.

Ernest L. Wilkinson was a great president, you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Would you if you had an all-Democratic government? That is possible with the implosion of our GOP.

We already had an all Democratic government with a filibuster proof majority a few years ago and they wouldn't go for the idea.

Single payer is completely unaffordable and would require the largest bureaucracy on planet earth to manage. Sanders' own state of Vermont already tried this just a couple of years ago and scrapped it once they realized the price tag was way higher than what they thought it would be.

 

[tyroneweaver]

another government failure.

Republicans in Red States are blocking health care. They really do mean "let them die".

Republican lawmakers block bids to expand Medicaid

Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Five Major Ways That Republicans Are Trying To Sabotage Obamacare

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

You must be the 2nd of a set of Twins, because no one person could be as dumb as you.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the RW non-response to Anything It Does Not Like - a contentless flame that will go unremarked by staff because, well, Reasons.

This is a good thing. It shows that the RW is intellectually bankrupt, and it is why it loses.

another government failure.

Republicans in Red States are blocking health care. They really do mean "let them die".

Republican lawmakers block bids to expand Medicaid

Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Five Major Ways That Republicans Are Trying To Sabotage Obamacare

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

You must be the 2nd of a set of Twins, because no one person could be as dumb as you.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the RW non-response to Anything It Does Not Like - a contentless flame that will go unremarked by staff because, well, Reasons.

This is a good thing. It shows that the RW is intellectually bankrupt, and it is why it loses.

LOL, ok Entitlements will take 100% of the nations taxable income in the near future. Good luck with that. Spend your way into prosperity; works every time.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

another government failure.

Republicans in Red States are blocking health care. They really do mean "let them die".

Republican lawmakers block bids to expand Medicaid

Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Five Major Ways That Republicans Are Trying To Sabotage Obamacare

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

Look at the total medicaid spending in your 2 billion canard article.

Boy are you stupid.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Would you if you had an all-Democratic government? That is possible with the implosion of our GOP.

We already had an all Democratic government with a filibuster proof majority a few years ago and they wouldn't go for the idea.

Single payer is completely unaffordable and would require the largest bureaucracy on planet earth to manage. Sanders' own state of Vermont already tried this just a couple of years ago and scrapped it once they realized the price tag was way higher than what they thought it would be.

It would create a civil war.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Would you if you had an all-Democratic government? That is possible with the implosion of our GOP.

We already had an all Democratic government with a filibuster proof majority a few years ago and they wouldn't go for the idea.

Single payer is completely unaffordable and would require the largest bureaucracy on planet earth to manage. Sanders' own state of Vermont already tried this just a couple of years ago and scrapped it once they realized the price tag was way higher than what they thought it would be.

Well, you keep repeating your opinion. Single payer is not national health care with government owning and managing the resources and product of the system. It is the financing mechanism, just like medicare, which works well.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Would you if you had an all-Democratic government? That is possible with the implosion of our GOP.

We already had an all Democratic government with a filibuster proof majority a few years ago and they wouldn't go for the idea.

Single payer is completely unaffordable and would require the largest bureaucracy on planet earth to manage. Sanders' own state of Vermont already tried this just a couple of years ago and scrapped it once they realized the price tag was way higher than what they thought it would be.

It would create a civil war.

Silly you!

 

[Sun Devil 92]

How can anyone justify calling themselves a republican and advocating for single payer at the same time.

Republicans don't stand for big government (or so they say).

 

[JakeStarkey]

How can anyone justify calling themselves a republican and advocating for single payer at the same time.

Republicans don't stand for big government (or so they say).

Ask Trump.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

How can anyone justify calling themselves a republican and advocating for single payer at the same time.

Republicans don't stand for big government (or so they say).

Ask Trump.

Why ?

He's not for single payer.

 

[JakeStarkey]

How can anyone justify calling themselves a republican and advocating for single payer at the same time.

Republicans don't stand for big government (or so they say).

Ask Trump.

Why ?

He's not for single payer.

Rick Perry said he was. Is Donald Trump still 'for single-payer' health care?

Trump agrees with Bernie on health care.

Here Trump is trying to wiggle out of his mess on health care.
Donald Trump on single-payer, donation to Hillary Clinton

 

[Sun Devil 92]

From politifact:

Our ruling

Perry said Trump is "for single-payer health care."

Fifteen years ago, Trump was decidedly for a universal healthcare system that resembled Canada’s system, in which the government pays for care for all citizens. Recently, he's said he admires Scotland’s single-payer system and disses the Affordable Care Act as incompetently implemented.

However, a Trump spokesman denied that the candidate supported "socialized medicine" and suggested Trump prefers a "free-market" solution. Other than that, though, the Trump campaign has been silent about what his specific health care policies are; perhaps Trump will be pressed on this point during the Aug. 6 debate.

Given the current evidence, Perry's attack is partially accurate, but leaves out details. We rate the statement Half True.