$ 4.09 for reg. unleaded.

[boedicca]

thats what you always say....someone is stupid or doesnt understand. You dony understand Im talking about OPEC and Oil companies fucking us all and Government collusion with them is fucking us all. But you only choose to hate one and defend the other.

Whatever makes you feel good...

Clearly, your Ignorance makes you ecstatic, as you celebrate it on a near constant base.

 

[Avorysuds]

I just cannot take their $175 figure seriously, IF that is so, double dip here we come, it won't even be a question of if, just when.

Did we ever get out of the "first" recession?

 

[boedicca]

Technically, yes - although given the anemia of the recovery, it's hardly noticeable.

 

[Seawytch]

Electric cars still require conventional fuels, to run the power plant, to charge up the car.

Of course, if your budget is already strained from the shit economy, the suggestion that you trade in your current ride for a new (probably higher) payment for an Obammymobile is plain old absurd....Just another piece of evidence of how completely cloistered in his little ivory tower that the Boiking is.

True story.

What would happen to the electrical grid if we immediately stopped using oil and switched to EVs?

In CA, transmission lines are ancient, and have needed to be increased and upgraded for years. And good luck building a new power plant with all of the EPA restrictions abused by the environazis.

although you would think people would be all over this because it would create jobs....

Also i read someplace if we used 3% of Arizona for solar we could get all the power we need. ....3%....

And NOBODY is saying we are going to get off our oil glut all in one fell swoop, but we aren't doing ANYTHING to move away from it. If we stopped using so much oil to power our vehicles, there would be MORE of it to use for the rest of our petroleum needs. If we used more wind and solar to produce our electricity needs, we would have more oil to use for other things. How many states still don't require recycling?

 

[slukasiewski]

Gas under Clinton - $201
Current asshole - $4


What the fuck?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

A Prius? No, but there are plenty of vehicle alternatives to the gas guzzlers we drive around. In my commute to work I pass gas guzzling SUV after gas guzzling SUV with only ONE driver in it. We aren't talking about the working vehicle for the construction crews for goodness sake, but the regular vehicle an individual drives to work every day.

It won't be much longer until this is available to the construction minded individual that needs a larger vehicle:

There are alternatives and looking to them saves us much more than doing something really stupid...like drilling for more of the finite fuel source, oil.

Electric cars still require conventional fuels, to run the power plant, to charge up the car.

Of course, if your budget is already strained from the shit economy, the suggestion that you trade in your current ride for a new (probably higher) payment for an Obammymobile is plain old absurd....Just another piece of evidence of how completely cloistered in his little ivory tower that the Boiking is.

True story.

What would happen to the electrical grid if we immediately stopped using oil and switched to EVs?

In CA, transmission lines are ancient, and have needed to be increased and upgraded for years. And good luck building a new power plant with all of the EPA restrictions abused by the environazis.

The Grid is ancient-tech.

The ultimate-target needs to be....every site (homes/apartments/etc.) would have it's own private, little power-plant.

It's not "magic" or "evil", "conservatives".....it's....

....PRESENT-DAY TECH!!!!!

(.....And, you're a speed-bump on the way to the future.)

 

[Mr. Shaman]

What a steaming pile of know-nothing partisanship this thread exhibits.

Troll on boys.

Ya think?

Old Rocks summed them up nicely on the first page.

you mean page 3? anyway, that was just another mish mash of the same old same old, aside from the usual pejoratives etc. for the 11th time, there is no car battery even in prototype that creates any cost efficient benefit that would mainstream the use of such even at 3.50 or $4 a gallon.

the FACT is fossil furl is the nergy for the next 25 years, refusal to acknowledge that strikes me as petro- luddism.

You need to look-into better ventilation. You're (obviously) oxygen-deprived, in your bunker (...and, your spelling shows it).

It's now 2011!!!!

 

[slukasiewski]

Wait a minute, when ppl can't find jobs the cons answer is to move somewhere else but suggesting you may want to buy a fuel efficient vehicle and they bitch?

Oh, so in this shit economy, the answer to skyrocketing fuel prices is to sign up for a new (and probably larger) car payment.

Fucking brilliant!

Nope, too late for that.

Time to suck it up and drop a hundred dollar bill into the gas tank at each fill up.

And maybe when it is time for a new car, people will think with their heads and not their little dicks.

Oh God - another HANNITY flunkie.....

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Boiking sez your problem is solved, if you just trade in in your car.

Can't Afford Gas For Your Car? Trade It in, Rubes Says Obama « The Greenroom

If your car gets 8mpg and you are complaining about gas prices, you should trade your car in for something more fuel efficient. Give me a break.

Thank you, tovarich Kar Kommissar.

Any other directives you want to pronounce upon the proletariat, while you have them gathered in the square?

Do you Teabaggers do ANY thinking, for yourself??!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_bvT-DGcWw]YouTube - Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall[/ame]​

 

[Oddball]

thats what you always say....someone is stupid or doesnt understand. You dony understand Im talking about OPEC and Oil companies fucking us all and Government collusion with them is fucking us all. But you only choose to hate one and defend the other.

Whatever makes you feel good...

Methinks that "someone" beez you.

BTW, I don't do tin foil hats...The muss up my hair something awful.

 

[ClosedCaption]

yep..OPEC is alll a big dream...now you can put your tin foil hat back on and scream about Obama destroying America

 

[Big Fitz]

How do you like socialism now? Don't do this half way. The left thought we had a right to own a house, why not a right to a job. Plus, we deserve equal pay and I don't want anyone telling me I have to actually work. Just showing up is all thats required.

I do believe RDD scampered away in ironic defeat (again) or he's off to work harder to mail me a bigger check from his excess profit.

"If you spent this much effort in your real life as you did on this site, you wouldn't be broke and without insurance." Do I have the right wing talking points down pretty good?

Nope.

You don't know the difference between honest effort, scam artists and actual impediment.

Where's my dough?

 

[Oddball]

yep..OPEC is alll a big dream...now you can put your tin foil hat back on and scream about Obama destroying America

Every time OPEC makes a supposed pact to limit production, one or more of them always cheat.

There ain't no monopoly...Deal with it.

 

[ClosedCaption]

yep..OPEC is alll a big dream...now you can put your tin foil hat back on and scream about Obama destroying America

Every time OPEC makes a supposed pact to limit production, one or more of them always cheat.

There ain't no monopoly...Deal with it.

So they do or do not collude to limit oil production?

 

[Ame®icano]

In my small town in California, regular unleaded is up to $ 4.39 a gallon.

Damn.. those Democrats have screwed us..

Back then, it was all Bush fault.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8shZ3Waqpg]YouTube - Nancy Pelosi interview: George Bush is "a total failure"[/ame]

Whose fault is now?

 

[Ame®icano]

Boiking sez your problem is solved, if you just trade in in your car.

Can't Afford Gas For Your Car? Trade It in, Rubes Says Obama « The Greenroom

For a moment I thought I heard Bush talking...

Seams pretty much like: "Get down to Disney World in Florida" and "Go shopping."

 

[KissMy]

In my small town in California, regular unleaded is up to $ 4.39 a gallon.

Damn.. those Democrats have screwed us..

Back then, it was all Bush fault.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8shZ3Waqpg]YouTube - Nancy Pelosi interview: George Bush is "a total failure"[/ame]

Whose fault is now?

Man, I forgot how totally stupid that bitch was!

 

[KissMy]

yep..OPEC is alll a big dream...now you can put your tin foil hat back on and scream about Obama destroying America

Every time OPEC makes a supposed pact to limit production, one or more of them always cheat.

There ain't no monopoly...Deal with it.

So they do or do not collude to limit oil production?

Democrats are the only ones who collude to limit oil production.

 

[thereisnospoon]

True story.

What would happen to the electrical grid if we immediately stopped using oil and switched to EVs?

In CA, transmission lines are ancient, and have needed to be increased and upgraded for years. And good luck building a new power plant with all of the EPA restrictions abused by the environazis.

although you would think people would be all over this because it would create jobs....

Also i read someplace if we used 3% of Arizona for solar we could get all the power we need. ....3%....

And NOBODY is saying we are going to get off our oil glut all in one fell swoop, but we aren't doing ANYTHING to move away from it. If we stopped using so much oil to power our vehicles, there would be MORE of it to use for the rest of our petroleum needs. If we used more wind and solar to produce our electricity needs, we would have more oil to use for other things. How many states still don't require recycling?

Wind generated power......This is very expensive. A friend of mine who works for a company that engineers and manufactures parts and components made of different metals. The firm just landed a contract with GE Energy Division. The contract is to build bearings and gears for wind turbines. The COST, not the retail price for each assembly is $150,000. That's just for the gear/bearings. The bottom line is wind turbines are very expensive. In fact they are cost prohibitive. Add in the rest of the components that make up the entire assembly, purchase of land, the infrastructure to carry the electricity to market and of course the NIMBY factor and we have one big fat bureaucratic boondoggle.
Solar generated power makes no sense, Acres and acres of land near large population centers are required to make solar even remotely affordable. Solar generated power is also very low in efficiency. The high cost of land basically eliminates solar as a mass source of power.
Ahh, recycling....What a bunch of crap. In some materials which are highly toxic when heated and on others where the recycling process creates unusable and dangerous byproducts, actually creates more of a mess and is more costly than simply manufacturing new..A couple of perspectives
What do we really know about recycling?
The Yale Free Press

I support recycling. Unfortunately, the way it's being done is the most profitable for the recycling company as opposed what it best for the environment. Solve that issue and public support will almost be universal.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Every time OPEC makes a supposed pact to limit production, one or more of them always cheat.

There ain't no monopoly...Deal with it.

So they do or do not collude to limit oil production?

Democrats are the only ones who collude to limit oil production.

what a dumbass