Here's the thing that you and Kaz don't seem to grasp. None of us on this forum (that I'm aware of) are advocating pure socialism or communism. My personal ideal would be something like Europe - basically capitalism with some social support. Absolutists like you two think that amounts to full blown socialism. Yet strangely, when it's convenient to your point, Europeans have free market economies. And neither of you can point to a pure libertarian system that has been a success. Good luck being taken seriously.Are there any countries with a completely unregulated free market?
Even in the most perverse instances of Europe, the market economies have returned the best standard of living people in the area have ever experienced.
Can you point to any authoritarian/socialist system that has improved the lives of those enslaved under it?