America: United or Divided??

[bill718]

Liberals accuse Conservatives of trying to turn America into an racist autocracy run by the Fortune 500, and dominated by only white males, where the working class makes $10.00 a day and no toilet breaks, and freedom of the press has been removed from the Constitution. Conservatives accuse Liberals of trying to turn America into a socialist hell hole, run by anyone except white males, as crime runs rampant, guns are outlawed, everyone lays around on couches smoking pot and wanting "free stuff"

Neither of these scenarios are true, nor do they make any sense at all. America has almost become 2 nations. So, will Americans realize the folly of gridlock, or will they someday realize that neither side will push the other off the planet, and begin to compromise with each other and make more of an attempt to work together, as our ancestors did for over 200 years?

I recall the Lord Jesus Christ saying "A house divided against itself cannot stand"...

 

[Claudette]

Well those who voted for Trump are united.

United for America first.

 

[MisterBeale]

Liberals accuse Conservatives of trying to turn America into an racist autocracy run by the Fortune 500, and dominated by only white males, where the working class makes $10.00 a day and no toilet breaks, and freedom of the press has been removed from the Constitution. Conservatives accuse Liberals of trying to turn America into a socialist hell hole, run by anyone except white males, as crime runs rampant, guns are outlawed, everyone lays around on couches smoking pot and wanting "free stuff"

Neither of these scenarios are true, nor do they make any sense at all. America has almost become 2 nations. So, will Americans realize the folly of gridlock, or will they someday realize that neither side will push the other off the planet, and begin to compromise with each other and make more of an attempt to work together, as our ancestors did for over 200 years?

I recall the Lord Jesus Christ saying "A house divided against itself cannot stand"...

Lord Jesus Christ huh?

Lincoln's House Divided Speech - Wikipedia

That's the problem with public education, they have you folks deifying government officials.

 

[MisterBeale]

I like your sentiment though. . .

 

[Mac1958]

It's all "their" fault. Those guys, over there. Someone else. "My" side has no faults.
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[Billy_Kinetta]

Americans are united. Whether Democrats are with the Americans has become increasingly questionable.

 

[night_son]

Liberals accuse Conservatives of trying to turn America into an racist autocracy run by the Fortune 500, and dominated by only white males, where the working class makes $10.00 a day and no toilet breaks, and freedom of the press has been removed from the Constitution. Conservatives accuse Liberals of trying to turn America into a socialist hell hole, run by anyone except white males, as crime runs rampant, guns are outlawed, everyone lays around on couches smoking pot and wanting "free stuff"

Neither of these scenarios are true, nor do they make any sense at all. America has almost become 2 nations. So, will Americans realize the folly of gridlock, or will they someday realize that neither side will push the other off the planet, and begin to compromise with each other and make more of an attempt to work together, as our ancestors did for over 200 years?

I recall the Lord Jesus Christ saying "A house divided against itself cannot stand"...

The survival of our great nation has always depended on an ongoing internal multi-partisan ideological dialectic, which amounts to a perpetual, slow burning, non-shooting civil war between opposing political philosophies. From a political psychology point of view, the Right and Left hands of American political philosophy represent a conservative authority (a cautious over-parent) and a liberal authority (an adventurous one). Which is a very fortunate ideological dichotomy to live under-- in a grand historical comparison to other civilizations, sort of way.

Thus, and on one hand--our divided house can work toward the fundamental strength of our Founding philosophies. However, when after the either or both ideological political poles have been poisoned with radical ideologues--particularly those subscribing to and disseminating revolutionary ideologies, then the beneficial dialectic between the two represented political doctrines becomes divisive to a level where the ongoing endless ideological argument is no longer about infighting to unite, but rather becomes one ideology fighting the other in a zero sum game, winner take all--not winning for the American people sort of way.

And, that unfortunately is where we find ourselves currently; living in a nation all dressed up for Revolution with not many other places left to go.

 

[Votto]

A few months ago, Jack Minzey, sent what was to be the final chapter in the long line of books and treatises which he had written


Professionally, Jack was head of the Department of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. His interest in Conservative Politics was exceeded only by his intellectual ability.

This is the last of his works:

Civil War




How do civil wars happen?


Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.


The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.


What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.


That's a civil war.




There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.


This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.




Your very own dictatorship.


The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.


Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.




If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.


But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played. That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.




The Constitution has something to say about that.


Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in it if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.


Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between a conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

 

[MarcATL]

Liberals accuse Conservatives of trying to turn America into an racist autocracy run by the Fortune 500, and dominated by only white males, where the working class makes $10.00 a day and no toilet breaks, and freedom of the press has been removed from the Constitution. Conservatives accuse Liberals of trying to turn America into a socialist hell hole, run by anyone except white males, as crime runs rampant, guns are outlawed, everyone lays around on couches smoking pot and wanting "free stuff"

Neither of these scenarios are true, nor do they make any sense at all. America has almost become 2 nations. So, will Americans realize the folly of gridlock, or will they someday realize that neither side will push the other off the planet, and begin to compromise with each other and make more of an attempt to work together, as our ancestors did for over 200 years?

I recall the Lord Jesus Christ saying "A house divided against itself cannot stand"...

What do you propose?