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I find this mind boggling, that any American president would GIVE UP weapon systems that have a proven track record, and are some of the most feared armament's by our enemies in our arsenal! Is this what he referred to with his FLEXIBILITY remark?:mad:

Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.
The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.
“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee....... MORE....

Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs | Washington Free Beacon
 
I find this mind boggling, that any American president would GIVE UP weapon systems that have a proven track record, and are some of the most feared armament's by our enemies in our arsenal! Is this what he referred to with his FLEXIBILITY remark?:mad:

Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.
The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.
“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee....... MORE....

Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs | Washington Free Beacon

Well, we could raise more revenue if it weren't for the teaparty.
 
I find this mind boggling, that any American president would GIVE UP weapon systems that have a proven track record, and are some of the most feared armament's by our enemies in our arsenal! Is this what he referred to with his FLEXIBILITY remark?:mad:

Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.
The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.
“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee....... MORE....

Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs | Washington Free Beacon

If you want to keep them then you have to pay for them by raising taxes.
 
I see what you did there. Trying to blame Obama for something the DoD has been asking for, eh?

I find this mind boggling, that any American president would GIVE UP weapon systems that have a proven track record, and are some of the most feared armament's by our enemies in our arsenal! Is this what he referred to with his FLEXIBILITY remark?:mad:

Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.
The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.
“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee....... MORE....

Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs | Washington Free Beacon

I looked at your link, and I see the Navy Budget is being enlarged.

As for the Tomahawk, it has now become susceptible to advancements in surface-to-air missile technology and is therefore needs to be replaced:

In the first decade of the 21th century it became clear that, although having served well, the Tomahawk cruise missile needed a replacement. Even with the upgrade of the basic missile to the TacTom configuration (Tactical Tomahawk) the missile was becoming obsolete. With its slow speed and reaction time the Tomahawk became an increasingly easy target for defense systems, and in a modern war it simply couldn`t be launched fast enough (requiring extensive planning to program its flightpath). The new missile would have to be much more flexible, and be capable of reaching its target much faster.

http://kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Equipment/Fasthawk.htm

The United States is developing a successor to the Tomahawk cruise missile that will be heavier (2.2 tons), have a longer range (2,000 kilometers), and a larger (one ton) warhead. The new missile will be stealthier and use a combination of guidance and targeting systems (to improve the chances of success). Price will probably be the key factor in whether this new missile ever enters service. The new Cruise Missile XR (for Extended Range) will probably cost at least twice as much as the current Tomahawk.

Air Defense: Russia Offers Cruise Missile Insurance


If you look at page 13 of your link, you will find the G/ATOR, GBAD, and RQ-21 procurements are being significantly ramped up.
 
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Unfortunately that doesn't surprise me. He wants to brings us to our knees.
 
Instead of raising taxes, why not stop giving foreign aid and using that money offered to our own military to keep us on par with upcoming dangers?
 
As for the Hellfire:

DoD wants the Joint Air to Ground Missile to replace three long-serving, near-legendary weapons: The Tube-Launched, Optically Tracked, Wire-guided missile known as TOW; the Maverick; and, probably best known, the AGM 114 Hellfire. Like the F-35, the JAGM continues the Pentagon’s trend of super high-stakes competitions where all the marbles are on the line, holding the promise of thousands upon thousands of missiles, and billions of dollars, for whichever corporate giant can get the deal to build it.

The giants in question are Lockheed Martin, which builds the Hellfire, and a team comprising Boeing and Raytheon. And as Richard Burnett of the Orlando Sentinel writes, if Lockheed gets the JAGM contract it could be an economic boon to Central Florida for decades — but it, and the other two companies, are worried that the missile might not survive in Austerity America. As such, Lockheed is trying to rally the hometown crowd in support of the new weapon:

http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/06/13/the-battle-to-replace-the-hellfire/

DoD wants. And the MIC wants. Not an Obama thing.
 
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Instead of raising taxes, why not stop giving foreign aid and using that money offered to our own military to keep us on par with upcoming dangers?

Foreign aid is less than one percent of the budget.
 
The goal is DoD's desire.

Let's be honest here, Vigilante, even if it hard for you.
 
The answer is this is obama's DO D. Like obama's DOJ. It is part of the evil regime. As Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel will ask for whatever Valerie Jarret tells him to ask for.
 
I see what you did there. Trying to blame Obama for something the DoD has been asking for, eh?

I find this mind boggling, that any American president would GIVE UP weapon systems that have a proven track record, and are some of the most feared armament's by our enemies in our arsenal! Is this what he referred to with his FLEXIBILITY remark?:mad:

Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.
The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.
“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee....... MORE....

Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs | Washington Free Beacon

I looked at your link, and I see the Navy Budget is being enlarged.

As for the Tomahawk, it has now become susceptible to advancements in surface-to-air missile technology and is therefore needs to be replaced:

In the first decade of the 21th century it became clear that, although having served well, the Tomahawk cruise missile needed a replacement. Even with the upgrade of the basic missile to the TacTom configuration (Tactical Tomahawk) the missile was becoming obsolete. With its slow speed and reaction time the Tomahawk became an increasingly easy target for defense systems, and in a modern war it simply couldn`t be launched fast enough (requiring extensive planning to program its flightpath). The new missile would have to be much more flexible, and be capable of reaching its target much faster.

Fasthawk Cruise Missile

The United States is developing a successor to the Tomahawk cruise missile that will be heavier (2.2 tons), have a longer range (2,000 kilometers), and a larger (one ton) warhead. The new missile will be stealthier and use a combination of guidance and targeting systems (to improve the chances of success). Price will probably be the key factor in whether this new missile ever enters service. The new Cruise Missile XR (for Extended Range) will probably cost at least twice as much as the current Tomahawk.

Air Defense: Russia Offers Cruise Missile Insurance


If you look at page 13 of your link, you will find the G/ATOR, GBAD, and RQ-21 procurements are being significantly ramped up.

:clap2:

Unfortunately... your post will probably be ignored by the bitter people :dunno:
 
I find this mind boggling, that any American president would GIVE UP weapon systems that have a proven track record, and are some of the most feared armament's by our enemies in our arsenal! Is this what he referred to with his FLEXIBILITY remark?:mad:

Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.
The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.
“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee....... MORE....

Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs | Washington Free Beacon

If you want to keep them then you have to pay for them by raising taxes.

Or cut entitlements! Ow, did that hurt you?:badgrin:
 
I see what you did there. Trying to blame Obama for something the DoD has been asking for, eh?

I find this mind boggling, that any American president would GIVE UP weapon systems that have a proven track record, and are some of the most feared armament's by our enemies in our arsenal! Is this what he referred to with his FLEXIBILITY remark?:mad:

Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.
The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.
“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee....... MORE....

Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs | Washington Free Beacon

I looked at your link, and I see the Navy Budget is being enlarged.

As for the Tomahawk, it has now become susceptible to advancements in surface-to-air missile technology and is therefore needs to be replaced:

In the first decade of the 21th century it became clear that, although having served well, the Tomahawk cruise missile needed a replacement. Even with the upgrade of the basic missile to the TacTom configuration (Tactical Tomahawk) the missile was becoming obsolete. With its slow speed and reaction time the Tomahawk became an increasingly easy target for defense systems, and in a modern war it simply couldn`t be launched fast enough (requiring extensive planning to program its flightpath). The new missile would have to be much more flexible, and be capable of reaching its target much faster.
Fasthawk Cruise Missile

The United States is developing a successor to the Tomahawk cruise missile that will be heavier (2.2 tons), have a longer range (2,000 kilometers), and a larger (one ton) warhead. The new missile will be stealthier and use a combination of guidance and targeting systems (to improve the chances of success). Price will probably be the key factor in whether this new missile ever enters service. The new Cruise Missile XR (for Extended Range) will probably cost at least twice as much as the current Tomahawk.
Air Defense: Russia Offers Cruise Missile Insurance


If you look at page 13 of your link, you will find the G/ATOR, GBAD, and RQ-21 procurements are being significantly ramped up.

But they are cutting them off BEFORE they have acceptable replacements!
 
I find this mind boggling, that any American president would GIVE UP weapon systems that have a proven track record, and are some of the most feared armament's by our enemies in our arsenal! Is this what he referred to with his FLEXIBILITY remark?:mad:

Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.
The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.
“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee....... MORE....

Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs | Washington Free Beacon

even the democrats will laugh that off the floor
 
As for the Hellfire:

DoD wants the Joint Air to Ground Missile to replace three long-serving, near-legendary weapons: The Tube-Launched, Optically Tracked, Wire-guided missile known as TOW; the Maverick; and, probably best known, the AGM 114 Hellfire. Like the F-35, the JAGM continues the Pentagon’s trend of super high-stakes competitions where all the marbles are on the line, holding the promise of thousands upon thousands of missiles, and billions of dollars, for whichever corporate giant can get the deal to build it.

The giants in question are Lockheed Martin, which builds the Hellfire, and a team comprising Boeing and Raytheon. And as Richard Burnett of the Orlando Sentinel writes, if Lockheed gets the JAGM contract it could be an economic boon to Central Florida for decades — but it, and the other two companies, are worried that the missile might not survive in Austerity America. As such, Lockheed is trying to rally the hometown crowd in support of the new weapon:
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/06/13/the-battle-to-replace-the-hellfire/

DoD wants. And the MIC wants. Not an Obama thing.

And which president is currently in charge of the DoD? I know, a tough question!
 

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