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You sure typed alot to dodge my question. To rephrase, if a law is passed stating that a fetus at 15 weeks of gestation is a person, does that make it so? You implied in a previous post that who is a person is derived from law.That would be fantastically stupid.
If you are still unclear on the concept, once "We the People" decided to outlaw alcohol in 1919. Man, we showed them.
And then this funny thing happened. People kept drinking. People found ways to get around the law. Organized Crime was supercharged from huge profits made by selling "We the People" the alcohol "We the People" decided to outlaw. Eventually, everyone realized how fucking absurd it was, and that's why it was repealed a mere 14 years later.
This brings us to what the world was like before Roe v. Wade. The reality was that women had just as many abortions before Roe as after. Doctors performed them, wrote down something else on the chart, insurance paid for it, and everyone was happy. When seven SCOTUS Justices (INCLUDING FIVE REPUBLICANS!) overturned these state laws that were barely being followed, they thought they were just killing meaningless laws, like the Sodomy laws with Lawrence (2003) or the Contraception laws with Griswald (1965).
Outlaw abortion, and people will find ways to get them.
If you are unclear on the concept, I give you the Philippines. They have the kind of Gilead-like laws you crazies want. And yet it is estimated that Filipinas have 500,000 to 800,000 a year.
Now, there are ways to reduce abortions- Comprehensive sex education at an early age, easy access to contraception, paid family leave, and universal health care. All that commie stuff you guys hate.
You sure typed alot to dodge my question. To rephrase, if a law is passed stating that a fetus at 15 weeks of gestation is a person, does that make it so? You implied in a previous post that who is a person is derived from law.
What's morally repugnant is more than 98% of abortions performed are for simple selfish convenience.
There was no problem with the gay couple until the baker went on Facebook and mocked them and bragged about denying them.Employee and a point of sale item and owner and contracted item are not the same. false equivalence.
Same shit, different day
so is not making a law just because of a few possible exceptions.
Says the man who wants to ruin bakers over same sex marriage. at least my issue involves a life, and in my case my 10-12 week limit is a fair compromise.
Fetuses are human life.
Meanwhile you purple hair people see an Eagles egg as an Eagle….Can you reconcile such lunacy for us?Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were stupid.
Laws only work when there is agreement that SHOULD be a law, and the law is practical.
So let's look at your scenario, where Globby the Fetus is declared a person under the law. As stated, women will still disobey that law, but the issue of fetal personhood will have implications far beyond abortion.
For instance, you now have to investigate EVERY miscarriage as a potential homicide. Can't trust the doctors to simply declare it was a miscarriage, most of those OB/GYN's were performing abortions before Globby got declared a person.
And once Globby is a person, a pregnant woman could be charged with assault if she smokes a cigarette, has a glass of wine, or even eats the wrong kinds of food.
If you are still confused, have someone explain the big words to you.
Obviously you're female.What's morally repugnant is more than 98% of abortions performed are for simple selfish convenience.
What is a ‘FEMALE’?Obviously you're female.
Nope, people's human dignity to not encounter discrimination is more important than your groveling in front of an imaginary sky pixie. Keep your groveling in your church.
Not at all. WE SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING AROUND IN THEIR PART OF THE WORLD. Especially a piece of shit like you who never put on a uniform in your life and doesn't have to go over there.
Nope. Again, if a baker can refuse to accommodate because Jesus said so, I should be able to cut out my enemy's heart because Quezatacoatl said so.
There was no problem with the gay couple until the baker went on Facebook and mocked them and bragged about denying them.
Fetuses aren't people. The law doesn't see them as people.
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were stupid.
Laws only work when there is agreement that SHOULD be a law, and the law is practical.
V's are for sale now days.I do not have a V, but 15 weeks seems reasonable to me. Nearly 4 months?
This 9 month shit is disgusting barbaric murder. It’s amazing in like 15 states and DC you can murder the child up until birth.
Meanwhile you purple hair people see an Eagles egg as an Eagle….Can you reconcile such lunacy for us?
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Look who is stupid. It is you that brought up fetuses aren't people....the law doesn't see them as people. So if I'm stupid, you are really stupid.
It’s none of your business.The Democrats Lie campaign on abortion rages on in Arizona. I watch maybe 3 hours of TV a day. I am seeing at least 8 commercials on Arizona's "Abortion Ban" and how Kari Lake is going to force women to carry a Rape pregnancy to full term. These are 100 percent LIES! Is there no regulation on the content of political ads? Doesn't there have to be some shred of truth?
The current Arizona Law is a limit at 15 weeks of fetal age. There is also prop 139 which if passed will EXTEND the abortion limit to FULL TERM. Democrats are disgusting liars it's the only way they can win because they certainly can't run on their record.
And once again you dodged my question. I did not ask if it would be easy to pass such a law or if it would even be wise. In an early post YOU implied that a fetus is not a person because the law does not support that. So to follow that logic which YOU introduced, passing a law that declares a fetus a person makes it so. Now if YOU want to backtrack on that, be my guest.No, you really are stupid if you think that you can 1) Get a law passed declaring them as people in all instances and 2) that anyone would obey such a law if it were put into place.
Where is the right to an abortion in COTUS? It isn't there, so how would they rule that 15 weeks is OK?SCOTUS should have went with the 15 week compromise......They fucked-up big time.
That said every state should have had a referendum special election after the decision, up or down on abortion. Then if it's up another one on guardrails to the practice.
It pisses me off no end that the legislatures of states like TX and OK refuse to let the people decide and bow only to the wishes of the holy rollers.
