Atheists want multiple universes and extra-terrestrial civilizations to exist because they think it will hurt Christianity

[LuckyDuck]

Much of what we see through our most advanced telescopes are vast numbers of galaxies, much like our own. It is estimated that, based upon the number of planets we are finding in our galactic neighborhood, an estimate of 21.6 "sextillion" planets may orbit the stars. To believe that out of that vast amount of planets, WE are the only advanced civilization in existence, is absurd. As to not hearing from any advanced civilizations, one must consider the vast distances from those far away planets. Radio waves travel at about 186,411 miles per second, similar to the speed of light. Depending upon how far the nearest planet that has advanced life on it, sits in relation to ours, the likelihood of us hearing from them is remote.
Also, since the 21.6 sextillion planet figure, based upon what we are finding in relation to how many stars have orbiting exoplanets (keep in mind that just because we don't see regular fluctuations in stars, indicating orbiting planets, doesn't mean there are no planets orbiting the stars, only that the orbits may be along a different plane that what we can see) around them, to think that WE are somehow ultra-special and the only intelligent live in the universe, is vastly ego-centric and comes from a place of ignorance.

 

[Grumblenuts]

He's still trying to show abiogenesis and asks, "Can methane can form ethane?"

Do you agree or disagree? ... a simple question, why don't you answer? ...

Mercy. You've now got James so upset he's reduced to babbling incoherent nonsense as opposed to his usual sort.

 

[ReinyDays]

Do you agree or disagree? ... a simple question, why don't you answer? ...

I found a nice video for you and the atheists/agnostics here. It's of such high quality you should be paying for it, but it's free. I can't compete against it .

Long ... what the timestamp for their discussion of methane forming ethane? ...
2 CH4 -> C2H6 + H2 ... yes or no? ...
You know where this goes, you've been down this road before ... it refutes your claims and you know it ... does this make you a liar? ...

 

[ReinyDays]

Yeah, yeah No need for any toy machine guns here. My house coyote controls the varmints just fine:

Poor squirrel ... see how evil coyotes are? ... that squirrel was a meal for some homeless person living in North Park ... oh the humanity ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You've now got James so upset he's reduced to babbling incoherent nonsense as opposed to his usual sort.

I have no idea how to tell when that has started.

 

[ReinyDays]

I have no idea how to tell when that has started.

We need to direct James back to chirality ... my God, that's funny ...

 

[Grumblenuts]

Deck the halls with peptide bioregulators
Fa la la la laaaa..

Sorry.. suddenly felt like singing Christmas chirals..

 

[evenflow1969]

But belief in these theories are more wishful thinking than reality.

The concept that there are an infinite number of parallel universes is poppycock. Even if true, there will never be a way to prove it.

If extra-terrestrial civilizations existed, we'd know it by now. We've been listening for their radio signals for decades and in all that time we've heard squat.

The reality is that atheist scientists have pushed belief in these notions because they hate Christianity and want to undermine people's faith in religion.

Ya,waves experience disturbance and weeken after distance traveled. So not exactly the smoking gun for not finding them. Aliens nor multi verse preclude a creator. These things can exist and still have been created by intelligent design. These things are more than possible according to mathematics. You wanna believe in the Bible do it. The aliens ain't gonna stop you. Neither am I. So be so kind as to allow others to have their beliefs also.

 

[evenflow1969]

To a Great Designer what purpose could possibly be served by having humans possess failing eyesight? Heart disease? Hearing loss? Why have us fall apart as we grow older?

These things you have mentioned are not all bad. As my body changed with age so did my activities. Some things I do now I am glad because I like them. Maybe just giving us the chance for variety.

 

[james bond]

You freakin' idiot. I just told you that there are plenty of amino acids out there in outer space. Now, what important part did you stupidly miss?

Never mind.

This may as well be you in front of the judge.

Wow, yes, you want God to burn people because they don't agree with your fairy tales. You see, this is why I don't believe in Yahweh. To paraphrase Jean-Luc Picard, I refuse to believe the universe is this badly designed.

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I never said I wanted people to burn. It's people who do it to themselves like you are doing. Notice the this is fine dog accepted his fate until it was too late and he felt the burn. People were given free will and can decide for themselves whether to believe in Jesus as Savior and repent for their sins.

If you look at the science it's creation science, i.e. real science vs. the fake science of evolutionary thinking and cosmology.

Strengths of creationist's arguments: Science backs up Book of Genesis, origins of universe and life on Earth
Weakness of creationist's arguments: Age of Earth as 6,000 years (radiocarbon dating), people don't believe other Bible stories

Strengths of evolutionist's arguments: Long time (radiometric dating), microevolution or evolution by natural selection
Weakness of evolutionist's arguments: Unclear origin of universe and life, no hard evidence for macroevolution or evolution by mutation

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The studio built this sign for their movie and were filming while I was growing up in San Francisco. I didn't think about the significance until watching again decades later. It wasn't considered neo noir until decades later. I suppose it's one of the reasons why it's considered neo noir.

I guess I'm on ignore again ... the biggest weakness to Creation Science is the refusal to learn ... what's set is set never to be changed ... as long as we refuse to understand science, we can always claim it is unclear ... deaf to the Word ... blind to the world about us ... tongues wagging hypocrisy ...

Haha. It's ReinyDays refusal to learn. For example, you can't talk to posters here in general. I gave you your chance, but it has to be for me because it's so stupid. You are the perfect this is fine dog.

Instead, we have the evidence for a young Earth based on rapidly decaying magnetic field, soft tissue in fossils, bent rock layers, and others which I have discussed without a cretin like you necessary. That would be a simple crushing blow for evolution, but it's not taught allowed to be taught in public schools.

Actually, the YEC’ists / Flat Earthers have no evidence to suggest a young earth. All the relevant sciences point unequivocally to a very ancient earth and universe. Biblical literalism, which you falsely identify as ID’iot creationism, is not part of the public school curriculum because it is religion under the false label of “creation science”. The US Constitution has a clearly spelled out “establishment clause” that prohibits religion to be taught in public schools.

It’s comical that ID’iot creationers (Christian fundamentalists), insist that their religious indoctrination would deal a “crushing blow” to science if allowed in public schools. Yet, these same angry fundamentalists cannot explain why their religious dogma masquerading as science would be better explained in the public schools vs. the relevant science journals and science-based organizations. There’s a reason why Christian ministries don’t publish science related research data in any of the peer reviewed science journals.

You're the angry beotchy dog who has turned into the this is fine dog when surrounded by fire. You continue to make accusations and stereotype people with no evidence. We are not flat earthers and you have not learned anything from years of God's warnings to you.

Can you talk with ReinyDays? He's still trying to show abiogenesis and asks, "Can methane can form ethane?" Afterward, you'll have to be bored spitless for the rest of your life.

Who is surrounded by fire? Do you believe you have some entitlement to threaten people with your gods?

It's not stereotyping Biblical literalists to suggest they believe a flat earth. The bible suggests that the earth is flat. Further, I have had no warnings from any gods. Any warnings I have had about burning in some hell have come from you. Do you believe you are gods messenger?

I just said you are the one surrounded by fire and think this is fine. No Biblical literalist believes in a flat Earth. We believe in creation science.

You have received God's warnings as he loves you, but have not paid any attention. Nothing I say gets through to you.

 

[james bond]

Abiogenesis is a forgone conclusion. You are free to sprinkle magical hooha on it and say it is god's plan. That affects nothing but your own feelings.

Only in your wishful thinking mind because Pasteur debunked it in 1861 with his swan neck experiment. It's really a creative and ingenious piece of work. OTOH you believe in poo poo like others here.

 

[james bond]

Much of what we see through our most advanced telescopes are vast numbers of galaxies, much like our own. It is estimated that, based upon the number of planets we are finding in our galactic neighborhood, an estimate of 21.6 "sextillion" planets may orbit the stars. To believe that out of that vast amount of planets, WE are the only advanced civilization in existence, is absurd. As to not hearing from any advanced civilizations, one must consider the vast distances from those far away planets. Radio waves travel at about 186,411 miles per second, similar to the speed of light. Depending upon how far the nearest planet that has advanced life on it, sits in relation to ours, the likelihood of us hearing from them is remote.
Also, since the 21.6 sextillion planet figure, based upon what we are finding in relation to how many stars have orbiting exoplanets (keep in mind that just because we don't see regular fluctuations in stars, indicating orbiting planets, doesn't mean there are no planets orbiting the stars, only that the orbits may be along a different plane that what we can see) around them, to think that WE are somehow ultra-special and the only intelligent live in the universe, is vastly ego-centric and comes from a place of ignorance.

 

[james bond]

Do you agree or disagree? ... a simple question, why don't you answer? ...

I found a nice video for you and the atheists/agnostics here. It's of such high quality you should be paying for it, but it's free. I can't compete against it .

Long ... what the timestamp for their discussion of methane forming ethane? ...
2 CH4 -> C2H6 + H2 ... yes or no? ...
You know where this goes, you've been down this road before ... it refutes your claims and you know it ... does this make you a liar? ...

Grumblenuts wants to take a crack at it. Ask him. I'm not interested anymore as I gave you several chances to explain, but couldn't.

 

[james bond]

He's still trying to show abiogenesis and asks, "Can methane can form ethane?"

Do you agree or disagree? ... a simple question, why don't you answer? ...

Mercy. You've now got James so upset he's reduced to babbling incoherent nonsense as opposed to his usual sort.

Maybe you can talk with him and humor him.

 

[ReinyDays]

I'm not interested anymore as I gave you several chances to explain, but couldn't.

You haven't answered my question ... are you running off with your tail between your legs? ...

 

[james bond]

I got some news of interest to both sides about the James Webb telescope. It's been delayed, but now scheduled to launch October 31, 2021. It cost $10 billion and some twenty five years in the making. Here is it's objective:

"The JWST primary mission objectives is to examine the first light in the Universe (Evolutionist speak for examining the galaxies which are furthest away.) But another aim is to study the properties of exoplanets, specifically to detect and analyse their atmospheres, in particular any signs of life.

The hunt for extra-terrestrial life today is fueled by the evolution story. The reasoning goes, if life evolved spontaneously on Earth, then surely it should have evolved somewhere else too?"

If it finds no aliens, then I'm ready to celebrate.

Will the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) find extra-terrestrial life?

Will NASA’s James Webb Space telescope find that habitable zone exoplanets have habitable atmospheres?

creation.com

 

[Grumblenuts]

To a Great Designer what purpose could possibly be served by having humans possess failing eyesight? Heart disease? Hearing loss? Why have us fall apart as we grow older?

These things you have mentioned are not all bad. As my body changed with age so did my activities. Some things I do now I am glad because I like them. Maybe just giving us the chance for variety.

Thanks, but the point was deterioration, not change. Death and aging are never presented as though "in God's image," nor as "sins." They are presented as though stuff we need fear and possibly regret. They mark us as "imperfect," mere mortals in need of "saving," "atonement," "enlightenment," and such rot. As though we're all born guilty rather than innocent, and deserve only increased suffering from there on. Pretty gross, sadistic concepts, though no doubt a handy way to keep the masses compliant and self-distracted. Same as having exactly two major ("viable") political parties and painting them opposing colors. All stinks of manipulation, no? Is our participation in these games really required? Rather than stemming from birth, perhaps evil's genuine root is constantly allowing a relative few possession of way too much?

 

[JoeB131]

I never said I wanted people to burn. It's people who do it to themselves like you are doing. Notice the this is fine dog accepted his fate until it was too late and he felt the burn. People were given free will and can decide for themselves whether to believe in Jesus as Savior and repent for their sins.

That's still kind of fucked up, really. "Worship me or I will burn you for all eternity!!!" "Make the wrong choices and I will burn you for all eternity!!!"

Seriously, would you want someone like that as a friend? Why would you want someone like that as a God.

Strengths of creationist's arguments: Science backs up Book of Genesis, origins of universe and life on Earth

Except it does no such thing. In fact, some of it is just crazy, such as plants being created before the sun was.

nstead, we have the evidence for a young Earth based on rapidly decaying magnetic field, soft tissue in fossils, bent rock layers, and others which I have discussed without a cretin like you necessary. That would be a simple crushing blow for evolution, but it's not taught allowed to be taught in public schools.

Because it's utter bullshit.

 

[Hollie]

You freakin' idiot. I just told you that there are plenty of amino acids out there in outer space. Now, what important part did you stupidly miss?

Never mind.

This may as well be you in front of the judge.

Wow, yes, you want God to burn people because they don't agree with your fairy tales. You see, this is why I don't believe in Yahweh. To paraphrase Jean-Luc Picard, I refuse to believe the universe is this badly designed.

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I never said I wanted people to burn. It's people who do it to themselves like you are doing. Notice the this is fine dog accepted his fate until it was too late and he felt the burn. People were given free will and can decide for themselves whether to believe in Jesus as Savior and repent for their sins.

If you look at the science it's creation science, i.e. real science vs. the fake science of evolutionary thinking and cosmology.

Strengths of creationist's arguments: Science backs up Book of Genesis, origins of universe and life on Earth
Weakness of creationist's arguments: Age of Earth as 6,000 years (radiocarbon dating), people don't believe other Bible stories

Strengths of evolutionist's arguments: Long time (radiometric dating), microevolution or evolution by natural selection
Weakness of evolutionist's arguments: Unclear origin of universe and life, no hard evidence for macroevolution or evolution by mutation

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The studio built this sign for their movie and were filming while I was growing up in San Francisco. I didn't think about the significance until watching again decades later. It wasn't considered neo noir until decades later. I suppose it's one of the reasons why it's considered neo noir.

I guess I'm on ignore again ... the biggest weakness to Creation Science is the refusal to learn ... what's set is set never to be changed ... as long as we refuse to understand science, we can always claim it is unclear ... deaf to the Word ... blind to the world about us ... tongues wagging hypocrisy ...

Haha. It's ReinyDays refusal to learn. For example, you can't talk to posters here in general. I gave you your chance, but it has to be for me because it's so stupid. You are the perfect this is fine dog.

Instead, we have the evidence for a young Earth based on rapidly decaying magnetic field, soft tissue in fossils, bent rock layers, and others which I have discussed without a cretin like you necessary. That would be a simple crushing blow for evolution, but it's not taught allowed to be taught in public schools.

Actually, the YEC’ists / Flat Earthers have no evidence to suggest a young earth. All the relevant sciences point unequivocally to a very ancient earth and universe. Biblical literalism, which you falsely identify as ID’iot creationism, is not part of the public school curriculum because it is religion under the false label of “creation science”. The US Constitution has a clearly spelled out “establishment clause” that prohibits religion to be taught in public schools.

It’s comical that ID’iot creationers (Christian fundamentalists), insist that their religious indoctrination would deal a “crushing blow” to science if allowed in public schools. Yet, these same angry fundamentalists cannot explain why their religious dogma masquerading as science would be better explained in the public schools vs. the relevant science journals and science-based organizations. There’s a reason why Christian ministries don’t publish science related research data in any of the peer reviewed science journals.

You're the angry beotchy dog who has turned into the this is fine dog when surrounded by fire. You continue to make accusations and stereotype people with no evidence. We are not flat earthers and you have not learned anything from years of God's warnings to you.

Can you talk with ReinyDays? He's still trying to show abiogenesis and asks, "Can methane can form ethane?" Afterward, you'll have to be bored spitless for the rest of your life.

Who is surrounded by fire? Do you believe you have some entitlement to threaten people with your gods?

It's not stereotyping Biblical literalists to suggest they believe a flat earth. The bible suggests that the earth is flat. Further, I have had no warnings from any gods. Any warnings I have had about burning in some hell have come from you. Do you believe you are gods messenger?

I just said you are the one surrounded by fire and think this is fine. No Biblical literalist believes in a flat Earth. We believe in creation science.

You have received God's warnings as he loves you, but have not paid any attention. Nothing I say gets through to you.

I'm filled with a sense of that ''Christian spirit'' when I'm threatened by a fundamentalist and lectured about being surrounded by fire. Are you the gods capo? And yes, you believe in the falsely labeled ''creation science'' because that label is nothing more than another term for fundamentalist Christianity.

No, I have received no messages from the gods. I have only received threats and lectures from angry religioners who tend to have a need to drench others with their self-hate and fears.

 

[Grumblenuts]

In mankind's beginning there were hunter-gatherers and it was good. Then we figured out how to grow shit so needed venture out less. Some became bigtime landlords and began imposing rents. Then it was bad. The renters didn't cooperate. They needed to know their place. The owners thought long and hard. Hmm..