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You seem confused about the language.Peacefan, why did you IGNORE my POST 271 that refutes your entire thread?
CH4 is a negligible contributor to the "heat" budget.
I just blew a highly meat induced fart that is stinking up the house reading this
Scientists say this invisible gas could seal our fate on climate change | CNN
Slashing carbon dioxide emissions is critical to ending the climate crisis. But, for the first time, scientists emphasized the need to control a more insidious culprit: methane.edition.cnn.com
Scientists say this invisible gas could seal our fate on climate change
By Rachel Ramirez, CNN
Updated 0208 GMT (1008 HKT) August 12, 2021
(CNN)Slashing carbon dioxide emissions is critical to ending the climate crisis. But, for the first time, the UN climate change report emphasized the need to control a more insidious culprit: methane, an invisible, odorless gas with more than 80 times more warming power in the near-term than carbon dioxide.
According to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the concentration of methane in the atmosphere is higher now than any time in at least 800,000 years.
With Earth rapidly approaching the 1.5-degree-Celsius threshold above preindustrial levels, scientists say methane emissions need to be reduced fast. Charles Koven, a lead author of the IPCC report, said this is due to methane's incredible warming power.
Earth is warming faster than previously thought, scientists say, and the window is closing to avoid catastrophic outcomes
"The fastest way that we might mitigate some of the climate change that we're seeing already in the short term is by reducing methane," Koven told CNN. "If we were to reduce methane emissions, it would act to offset one of these sources of warming."
If the world stopped emitting carbon dioxide tomorrow, Koven said, global temperatures wouldn't begin to cool for many years because of how long the gas stays in the atmosphere. Reducing methane is the easiest knob to turn to change the path of global temperature in the next 10 years, he said.
Methane, the main component of the natural gas we use to fuel our stoves and heat our homes, can be produced in nature by belching volcanoes and decomposing plant matter. But it is also pumped into the atmosphere in much larger amounts by landfills, livestock and the oil and gas industry.
Natural gas has been hailed as a "bridge fuel" that would transition the US to renewable energy because it is more efficient than coal and emits less carbon dioxide when burned. Importantly for industry, natural gas is in abundant supply around the world and is less costly to extract from the ground.
But proponents for this new "cleaner" gas missed a dangerous threat: that it could leak, unburned, into the atmosphere and cause significant warming.
Methane can leak from oil and natural gas wells, natural gas pipelines and the processing equipment itself. According to data from the US Energy Information Administration, the US has thousands of active wells for natural gas, millions of abandoned oil and gas wells, about two million miles of natural gas pipelines, and several refineries that process the gas.
One in three Americans lives in a county with oil and gas operations, posing climate and public health risks, according to a report by the Environmental Defense Fund.
Until recently, tracking the location and magnitude of methane leaks was difficult. Now, infrared cameras and advanced satellites can estimate methane emissions around the globe, giving scientists and regulators insight into what's being released from facilities.
Climatologists at NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration previously told CNN that pernicious changes in the climate system will only intensify unless people stop using fuels that burn and leak greenhouse gases like methane.
"For carbon dioxide, we've always known about power plants and smokestacks and things like that; but with methane, until recent years, we didn't understand how much an influence a small number of large sources have really had," Robert Jackson, professor of environmental science at Stanford University, told CNN. "We didn't understand how long the tail was and how important the super-emitters were for reducing emissions."
The latest IPCC assessment highlights that scientists now have a better understanding of how much methane is being released by human activity like agriculture and the fossil fuel industry, and how much it contributes to the climate crisis.
Around the world, fossil fuels, agriculture and coal mining are skyrocketing methane emissions. Nonetheless, the production and sources vary by region. In the North America, a majority -- 14% of total methane emissions -- come from the oil and gas production followed by livestock at 10%. In China, coal mining is the biggest methane driver, contributing 24% to total emissions.
Though agriculture is a major source of methane, Jackson said the emissions from farming and food production would be harder to tackle.
"There are only certain things we can do with cattle," Jackson said. "We can either ask people to stop eating beef or we can try and give cattle feed additives to change the microbes in the chemistry of their guts. But that's not easy to do for billions of cattle around the world."
The International Energy Agency estimate that the oil and gas industry around the world can reduce methane by 75% using the technology already available. It also estimates that 40% of the emissions could be reduced without extra costs, since the natural gas captured could then be sold.
Flaring at a natural gas processing facility in North Dakota.
Climate activists like Lisa DeVille, a member of the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation, are urging policymakers to make stringent methane reductions. The Bakken oil field in North Dakota surrounds the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation, where DeVille lives, with nearly 1,000 oil and gas wells that scientists found in 2016 was leaking 275,000 tons of methane per year.
"This means the land that is part of my identity as an Indigenous woman has been turned into a pollution-filled industrial zone," DeVille said. "This is unacceptable."
As the co-founder of the grassroots group Fort Berthold Protectors of Water and Earth Rights, DeVille is tackling environmental regulations head-on. In 2018, the organization successfully sued the Trump administration's Bureau of Land Management for rolling back a critical methane waste prevention rule.
Global temperatures are now at 1.1 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels, according to the report, and the planet is already seeing the impact in the form of extreme fire behavior, severe flooding, relentless drought and deadly heat waves.
The IPCC report makes clear that stopping methane emissions is key to slowing the planet from reaching 1.5 degrees. Scientists say world leaders need to act immediately in tackling all greenhouse gas emissions, and not just carbon dioxide.
Climate scientists have done their bit. Now the pressure is on leaders for COP26.
Rick Duke, senior director and White House liaison for John Kerry, President Biden's special climate envoy, told CNN in a press call that reducing methane, and methane leaks, is a top priority for the Biden administration.
"There's been incredible largely behind-the-scenes effort already to prepare to move faster and more comprehensively to cut methane domestically, at the same time that we're addressing this as a diplomatic imperative," Duke said.
Already, pressure is mounting. In June, DeVille discussed tribal issues, particularly slashing methane emissions and transitioning to clean energy quickly and equitably, with Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Michael Regan.
"What we do in the next few years will determine what kind of world we have, what kind of world we leave for our children," said DeVille, who is now seeking to meet with Interior Secretary Deb Haaland to discuss similar issues. "We must rapidly switch to clean energy, stop fossil fuel carbon pollution, and then methane leaks."
CNN's Drew Kann and John Keefe contributed to this report.
My question, especially to the Republican audience and leaders that frequent this forum, is this :
Would you allow Biden to curtail the US' methane output, and with that set an example for the rest of NATO and the world?
An example that by the way would increase world-wide goodwill for the USA.
White hatsAnything John Kerry is involved with has to be full of BS. His first comments on Russia attacking Ukraine wasn't over the huge cost of lives, but screwing up the perma frost, releasing methane.
Methane output is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt but it's more of a slow burn. Carbon emissions is having an immediate impact on our climate and needs to be dealt with immediately.
Methane output is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt but it's more of a slow burn. Carbon emissions is having an immediate impact on our climate and needs to be dealt with immediately.
Neither is a problemMethane output is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt but it's more of a slow burn. Carbon emissions is having an immediate impact on our climate and needs to be dealt with immediately.
Carbon dioxide emissions should globally sprout vegetation growth with a huge increase in oxygen out put.Methane output is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt but it's more of a slow burn. Carbon emissions is having an immediate impact on our climate and needs to be dealt with immediately.
Careful, that's provable science and not a 'consensus' religion.Carbon dioxide emissions should globally sprout vegetation growth with a huge increase in oxygen out put.
The log of CO2 disproves your hype.Here's a simple test I just thought of for all the deniers here pretending not to understand the greenhouse effect and indicating that (increased release of fossil) methane can make no difference.
Grab your four floating pool mattresses out of the shed. Deflate them if necessary. Fill one with compressed air like you know what you're doing. Fill another with CO2* from that old MIG welding tank you never bother with anymore since the gun got screwed up and you switched back to using crappy flux wire ages ago. Fill another with steam from your tea kettle (trying hard to scald yourself). Lastly, press a big funnel fitted with a serviceable hose to your butt and fill that last air mattress with your own methane gas. It would speed things along immensely if you refrained from blowing so much of your gas out here during that last step. Now, once confident all four have had sufficient time to equilibrate temperature wise, get horizontal on the ground and try out each in turn for a minute or two as a blanket.. I'm confident you'll never again forget which of those gases is truly most potent.
- CH4
- CO2
- H2O vapor
- Air
Oh, and btw, whether it ends up as CH4 or CO2, it's more released fossil carbon piling up. Try not to conveniently forget that again either.
(*)P.S. No, you were too much of a cheapskate to spring for the Argon/CO2 mix that day, remember?
Building infrastructure is a give away?What I hear From Big Guy is another $200 billion give away of Taxpayer funding to fix not a dang thing when all the Investors need is friendly government go ahead and do it Laws. Are you getting tired of B,S, ?
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Usually in the fine print.Building infrastructure is a give away?
Fine print?Usually in the fine print.
Fine print in the bill.....always has some kind of alternate universe stuff, totally unrelated to the original bill.Fine print?
A road or bridge is fine print? Critical infrastructure is just fine print?
Really?
We have built infrastructure in an alternate universe?Fine print in the bill.....always has some kind of alternate universe stuff, totally unrelated to the original bill.
Common ground?Take Africa for instance, 54 Countries, if they would Unite into the E.S.A. Economic States of Africa they could take care of their own problems. Instead they drag down the rest of the world with constant wars and people upheaval ! Why can't they find a common ground to Unite and do well. Is it because of self interests ? & so you have major players once again messing around in them. Is it China trying to tie them into its World Dominance Sphere of influences. Thats just a real Shot in the Head is all. Maybe its just ends up a lot of Black Opps and Offices where cash funnels down the Shit Holes of Dominions! One thing always sticks with me and that's Talents are distributed equally across the human race. Having an opportunity is usually not gonna happen !
