Bachmann’s Husband Tied To ‘Pray Away The Gay Therapy’

[CitizenPained]

He didn't commit a crime. Their Christian therapy center has been known for years. It's a non-story.

I don't think he committed any crime. I just see it as highlighting Bachmann's hypocrisy... someone who calls the slighest assistance to anyone else "socialism", perhaps shouldn't be taking medicare money and farm subsidies.

For me, the larger issue is that I don't understand why our tax money is paying for psycho stuff like praying away the gay. I wonder what the insurance code is for that.

"Our tax money" goes to more crackpot theory in 'mental health' therapies than pray away the gay.

Plus I don't think that Bachmann's husband is fair grounds for attack. No more than Michelle Obama's Big Hospital Lobbyist Paycheck scandal.

 

[Gadawg73]

He didn't commit a crime. Their Christian therapy center has been known for years. It's a non-story.

I don't think he committed any crime. I just see it as highlighting Bachmann's hypocrisy... someone who calls the slighest assistance to anyone else "socialism", perhaps shouldn't be taking medicare money and farm subsidies.

For me, the larger issue is that I don't understand why our tax money is paying for psycho stuff like praying away the gay. I wonder what the insurance code is for that.

"Our tax money" goes to more crackpot theory in 'mental health' therapies than pray away the gay.

Plus I don't think that Bachmann's husband is fair grounds for attack. No more than Michelle Obama's Big Hospital Lobbyist Paycheck scandal.

Everyone that receives tax $$$ Federal funds is fair game to attack.
There needs to be more attacks on fraud. Not less.

 

[CitizenPained]

But it isn't fraud.

 

[CitizenPained]

Read My Lisp
Is Michele Bachmann's husband gay? Don't trust gaydar to settle the question.

I find it ironic that my fellow gay advocates are also calling the guy gay as if it were an insult.

 

[Si modo]

Read My Lisp
Is Michele Bachmann's husband gay? Don't trust gaydar to settle the question.

I find it ironic that my fellow gay advocates are also calling the guy gay as if it were an insult.

Oh, but they aren't really insulting him.

Interesting, huh?

 

[Si modo]

But it isn't fraud.

You are right. It is not fraud.

But, it is borderline, if not across the border, charlatanism.

Sorta creepy, if you ask me.

 

[Jos]

Read My Lisp
Is Michele Bachmann's husband gay? Don't trust gaydar to settle the question.

I find it ironic that my fellow gay advocates are also calling the guy gay as if it were an insult.

Darwin Awards for All?

 

[geauxtohell]

Plenty of crackpot therapists getting paid by the feds. Why assault a guy who is honest about his therapy?

Such as?

 

[Misty]

I went down the list of subjects on politics and I've never seen a dumber bunch of threads, this one taking the cake.

 

[Seawytch]

While it might not constitute fraud, isn't time to stop this dangerous therapy? We should certainly stop federal funding of this harmful "therapy".

 

[Seawytch]

Plenty of crackpot therapists getting paid by the feds. Why assault a guy who is honest about his therapy?

Let's start with the fact that he wasn't honest about it. It took a hidden camera for the truth to come to light.

What other therapies are as dangerous as reparative therapy and are getting federal dollars?

 

[Too Tall]

Many homosexuals are caught up in a vicious cycle of depraved sex, drugs and disease

Sadly, many only see suicide as their avenue of escape from this depraved lifestyle.

This type of aversion therapy is many times their last and only hope towards a normal life

I seldom agree with you, but you got this one exactly right. You do realize that the only ones arguing against prayer are gays, atheists and agnostics. We will pray for them when they get Aids.

 

[Seawytch]

Many homosexuals are caught up in a vicious cycle of depraved sex, drugs and disease

Sadly, many only see suicide as their avenue of escape from this depraved lifestyle.

This type of aversion therapy is many times their last and only hope towards a normal life

I seldom agree with you, but you got this one exactly right. You do realize that the only ones arguing against prayer are gays, atheists and agnostics. We will pray for them when they get Aids.

Pray all you want to. I've got no problem with prayer. I DO have a problem with dangerous "conversion" therapy.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

these Jesus freaks are so pathetic.

*sigh

 

[CitizenPained]

While it might not constitute fraud, isn't time to stop this dangerous therapy? We should certainly stop federal funding of this harmful "therapy".

I just think its dangerous when science or psychiatry becomes political. :/

Because then what else may we stop funding?

People walkin' into that clinic know what's coming.

 

[Too Tall]

I disagree, children for the most part should be off limits (unless it's to show poor parenting like in Gore's case), but spouses, parents, siblings and cousins should not. What if Michelle Obama was a member of the New Black Panthers. I would like to know that. What if Obama's mama was a Marxist Revolutionary (which she probably was). I think that is newsworthy.

In this case, Bachmann's husband's clinic is using caveman tactics to solve a "problem!" That is newsworthy and it should have been outed. ....

I agree, it is newsworthy, just as Michelle Obama's infamous statement during the last election (since settled, IMO). Although, this wasn't a public statement. It is good to know that her husband's business is based, at least partly, in charlatan practices, I suppose. Maybe for the tabloid flavor of it.

.... I hope this sinks her. She is becoming scarer and scarer the more she campaigns!

I don't hope something about her husband sinks her just as I don't hope something about any candidate's spouse sinks that candidate. They are the candidate, not their spouses, and the candidate's views and practices should be the main consideration on which a voter will make a decision for or against that candidate. Just IMO.

A solid point. How much bandwidth was wasted on Michelle Obama's "proud to be an American for the first time" quote (which I think was a silly gaffe)?

Spouses are fair game and always have been. Lord, how many Hillary Clinton jokes was I subjected too when she was first lady?

For Bachman's presidential aspirations, I think the larger issue is her rather antiquated notion that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice (which most of the country doesn't agree with). Eventually, she is going to have to give definitive answers to that question.

For her husband, I simply find it more troubling that he could bill as a healthcare professional for therapy that is viewed as quackery by the professionals (psychologists and psychiatrists).

Then again, naturopaths and homeopaths get away with the same type of quackery too.

Though there is a fundamental difference: Medicaid won't reimburse naturopaths and homeopaths (or even chiropractors - which I find absurd). Mr. Bachman has found a way to bill the government for "treating" people with methods that are viewed as laughable by the professionals in the field.

That bothers me a great deal. The government shouldn't reimburse a "Homeopathic Doctor" to treat cancer with Sodium Bicarbonate (they don't) and they shouldn't reimburse Bachman for his unique brand of snake oil salesmanship either.

Just so you will know, medicare and private insurance do pay chiropractors for covered procedures.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Churches should pay taxes.

All they do out here in CA is feed the fuckin' homeless who hang around all day waiting for a free meal instead of looking to get their lives straightened out

 

[Too Tall]

Many homosexuals are caught up in a vicious cycle of depraved sex, drugs and disease

Sadly, many only see suicide as their avenue of escape from this depraved lifestyle.

This type of aversion therapy is many times their last and only hope towards a normal life

I seldom agree with you, but you got this one exactly right. You do realize that the only ones arguing against prayer are gays, atheists and agnostics. We will pray for them when they get Aids.

Pray all you want to. I've got no problem with prayer. I DO have a problem with dangerous "conversion" therapy.

I really don't need your permission to pray but it was nice of you give it to me. I would guess that means you are not an atheist or an agnostic gay person.

 

[Seawytch]

While it might not constitute fraud, isn't time to stop this dangerous therapy? We should certainly stop federal funding of this harmful "therapy".

I just think its dangerous when science or psychiatry becomes political. :/

Because then what else may we stop funding?

People walkin' into that clinic know what's coming.

Children brought in by their families don't have a choice.

There is ZERO science in this harmful therapy ( which has a success rate of less than 2%)

 

[Seawytch]

I seldom agree with you, but you got this one exactly right. You do realize that the only ones arguing against prayer are gays, atheists and agnostics. We will pray for them when they get Aids.

Pray all you want to. I've got no problem with prayer. I DO have a problem with dangerous "conversion" therapy.

Thank you very much for your permission for me to pray.

I wasn't giving permission, simply saying I don't give a shit what you do...and I sure as he'll don't support harmful therapies to rid you of your religious delusions.