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They had been going to that baker for years. They were friendly with the owners. The owners had prepared many items for them. The owners agreed to bake the wedding cake when one of the partners went there with her mother. It was only when the other partner arrived and they realized the couple was gay that they refused. Sorry if the facts get in the way of your bigoted lie.like those special homos that could've found a bakery to bake them a wedding cake and went out of thier way to find a christian one to target.Like those special snowflakes that run a business but refuse to obey their state's business laws.
link?They had been going to that baker for years. They were friendly with the owners. The owners had prepared many items for them. The owners agreed to bake the wedding cake when one of the partners went there with her mother. It was only when the other partner arrived and they realized the couple was gay that they refused. Sorry if the facts get in the way of your bigoted lie.like those special homos that could've found a bakery to bake them a wedding cake and went out of thier way to find a christian one to target.Like those special snowflakes that run a business but refuse to obey their state's business laws.
No, it is not, You are a fucking idiot if you think so. They can proclaim all that they want that they don't like gay people or that they are allowed to marry. They cannot tell potential customers that they will not serve them if they are gay. There is a difference despite you being too stupid to see it.Then you have no clue what a gag order looks like. All that it does is tell them to cease and desist from advertising or telling people that they will discriminate in violation of the law. If they had refused service to an African American and the order directed them to cease and desist from telling people they will not serve African Americans, is that a gag order?Looks like a gag order to me...They issued no gag order in this case.Both fines were excessive. Did the commission issue a "gag order" in the other case too?
Read it yourself. http://www.oregon.gov/boli/SiteAssets/pages/press/Sweet Cakes FO.pdf
Page 43.
Let's see....
If the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in violation of the order.
yeah, it's a gag order.
that's silly, especially in this context.
Why do you say that? True Morality REQUIRES that one avoid dealing with the Immoral masses as much as possible.
No, it is not, You are a fucking idiot if you think so. They can proclaim all that they want that they don't like gay people or that they are allowed to marry. They cannot tell potential customers that they will not serve them if they are gay. There is a difference despite you being too stupid to see it.Then you have no clue what a gag order looks like. All that it does is tell them to cease and desist from advertising or telling people that they will discriminate in violation of the law. If they had refused service to an African American and the order directed them to cease and desist from telling people they will not serve African Americans, is that a gag order?Looks like a gag order to me...They issued no gag order in this case.
Read it yourself. http://www.oregon.gov/boli/SiteAssets/pages/press/Sweet Cakes FO.pdf
Page 43.
Let's see....
If the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in violation of the order.
yeah, it's a gag order.
Some were, some were not. If you think that simply removing the laws that mandated them would have led to no segregation you are an idiot.the minute you allow people to put signs on their businesses saying "no blacks, no jews, no gays", you've created a de facto system of segregation.
or you let people know what stores not to patronize, even if the refusal does not apply to them.
Let the market handle it. There is no reason for commissions that can ruin a person over not baking a cake.
again, you can't refuse to serve people for discriminatory reasons. You can like that or not. You can disagree with that or not. But it's the law. and like the county clerk in Kentucky, if you can't live with that, you're in the wrong line of work.
Government is different than a a business. two different arguments.
Davis is wrong, but I admit I like watching people force government go through the motions to impose its will, instead of people just waffling under.
and your point of "its the law deal with it," is moot, because it's a stupid law, or at least its current use is stupid.
and its not "you can't discriminate", its "you can't discriminate against a group that is currently popular". fixed it.
no it isn't. that's rand paul's wish... that different standards apply to government and private business. reality: if that were the case, the lunch counters in the south would still be whites only.
you're wrong on this one, kiddo.
Those lunch counters were white only by government mandate.
and those are just an easy symbol, the real discrimination was in lack of access to things like education, property, and ownership of businesses.
that you want everyone to live exactly the way you want them to, and have government force that, shows either narcissism, fascism, or a combination of both.
Why would I need a tissue? You being an idiot is your problem.No, it is not, You are a fucking idiot if you think so. They can proclaim all that they want that they don't like gay people or that they are allowed to marry. They cannot tell potential customers that they will not serve them if they are gay. There is a difference despite you being too stupid to see it.Then you have no clue what a gag order looks like. All that it does is tell them to cease and desist from advertising or telling people that they will discriminate in violation of the law. If they had refused service to an African American and the order directed them to cease and desist from telling people they will not serve African Americans, is that a gag order?Looks like a gag order to me...
Let's see....
If the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in violation of the order.
yeah, it's a gag order.
tissue?
The opinion of the commission is linked in this thread. Go find it. And where is your link to your false claim about the couple going out to find a Christian Baker? Since the vast majority of Christian Bakers would not have a problem baking a freaking cake, your claim is kind of stupid, in addition to being completely made up by you.link?They had been going to that baker for years. They were friendly with the owners. The owners had prepared many items for them. The owners agreed to bake the wedding cake when one of the partners went there with her mother. It was only when the other partner arrived and they realized the couple was gay that they refused. Sorry if the facts get in the way of your bigoted lie.like those special homos that could've found a bakery to bake them a wedding cake and went out of thier way to find a christian one to target.Like those special snowflakes that run a business but refuse to obey their state's business laws.
Why would I need a tissue? You being an idiot is your problem.No, it is not, You are a fucking idiot if you think so. They can proclaim all that they want that they don't like gay people or that they are allowed to marry. They cannot tell potential customers that they will not serve them if they are gay. There is a difference despite you being too stupid to see it.Then you have no clue what a gag order looks like. All that it does is tell them to cease and desist from advertising or telling people that they will discriminate in violation of the law. If they had refused service to an African American and the order directed them to cease and desist from telling people they will not serve African Americans, is that a gag order?Looks like a gag order to me...
Let's see....
If the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in violation of the order.
yeah, it's a gag order.
tissue?
Any credible evidence to support your claim?like those special homos that could've found a bakery to bake them a wedding cake and went out of thier way to find a christian one to target.Like those special snowflakes that run a business but refuse to obey their state's business laws.
The opinion of the commission is linked in this thread. Go find it. And where is your link to your false claim about the couple going out to find a Christian Baker? Since the vast majority of Christian Bakers would not have a problem baking a freaking cake, your claim is kind of stupid, in addition to being completely made up by you.link?They had been going to that baker for years. They were friendly with the owners. The owners had prepared many items for them. The owners agreed to bake the wedding cake when one of the partners went there with her mother. It was only when the other partner arrived and they realized the couple was gay that they refused. Sorry if the facts get in the way of your bigoted lie.like those special homos that could've found a bakery to bake them a wedding cake and went out of thier way to find a christian one to target.Like those special snowflakes that run a business but refuse to obey their state's business laws.
No. You are an idiot if, after reading the Order you linked to, you still believe it was a gag order. Before that, you were just ill informed. After you read an order that did not prevent them from saying anything they wanted about the case and came back and called it a gag order, you became an idiot.Why would I need a tissue? You being an idiot is your problem.No, it is not, You are a fucking idiot if you think so. They can proclaim all that they want that they don't like gay people or that they are allowed to marry. They cannot tell potential customers that they will not serve them if they are gay. There is a difference despite you being too stupid to see it.Then you have no clue what a gag order looks like. All that it does is tell them to cease and desist from advertising or telling people that they will discriminate in violation of the law. If they had refused service to an African American and the order directed them to cease and desist from telling people they will not serve African Americans, is that a gag order?
Let's see....
If the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in violation of the order.
yeah, it's a gag order.
tissue?
You are correct, you're far beyond a mere tissue.
Apparently everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. You should get help with that.
Why would I need a tissue? You being an idiot is your problem.No, it is not, You are a fucking idiot if you think so. They can proclaim all that they want that they don't like gay people or that they are allowed to marry. They cannot tell potential customers that they will not serve them if they are gay. There is a difference despite you being too stupid to see it.Then you have no clue what a gag order looks like. All that it does is tell them to cease and desist from advertising or telling people that they will discriminate in violation of the law. If they had refused service to an African American and the order directed them to cease and desist from telling people they will not serve African Americans, is that a gag order?
Let's see....
If the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in violation of the order.
yeah, it's a gag order.
tissue?
Buttplug?
Ok, you are a buttplug too. Happy?Why would I need a tissue? You being an idiot is your problem.No, it is not, You are a fucking idiot if you think so. They can proclaim all that they want that they don't like gay people or that they are allowed to marry. They cannot tell potential customers that they will not serve them if they are gay. There is a difference despite you being too stupid to see it.Then you have no clue what a gag order looks like. All that it does is tell them to cease and desist from advertising or telling people that they will discriminate in violation of the law. If they had refused service to an African American and the order directed them to cease and desist from telling people they will not serve African Americans, is that a gag order?
Let's see....
If the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in violation of the order.
yeah, it's a gag order.
tissue?
You are correct, you're far beyond a mere tissue.
Apparently everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. You should get help with that.
any credible evidence to support paddy faggys claim?Any credible evidence to support your claim?like those special homos that could've found a bakery to bake them a wedding cake and went out of thier way to find a christian one to target.Like those special snowflakes that run a business but refuse to obey their state's business laws.
Yes all you have to do is look for it.any credible evidence to support paddy faggys claim?Any credible evidence to support your claim?like those special homos that could've found a bakery to bake them a wedding cake and went out of thier way to find a christian one to target.Like those special snowflakes that run a business but refuse to obey their state's business laws.
