BATF in 1964 designated AR-15 a civilian rifle

[2aguy]

So……the AR-15 was designated a civilian rifle one year before the M16 was issued in Vietnam….


U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “This responds to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request … concerning the following: 1. All classification letters (or if classification letters were named in some other way, those records) regarding Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle, Serial No. GX4968 which was approved in approximately 1963; and 2. All classification letters … for AR-15 platform rifles predating the submission to the ATF for the Colt AR15 SP1 Sporter Rifle,” Adam C. Siple, Chief Information and Privacy Governance Division, notified attorney Stephen Stamboulieh in a Nov. 22 response (see below). “In response to your request, we have processed a total of 2 pages of responsive material.

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Colt sent a pilot model rifle (serial no. GX4968) to the BATF for civilian sale approval on Oct. 23, 1963. It was approved on Dec. 10, 1963, and sales of the ‘Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle’ began on Jan 2, 1964,” one critic of the article contended. “The M16 wasn’t issued to infantry units until 1965 (as the XM16E1), wasn’t standardized as the M16A1 until 1967, and didn’t officially replace the M14 until 1969.

Original ATF AR-15 Classification Refutes Claim that Rifle ‘Not Meant’ for Civilians

[T]he magazine, unsurprisingly to anyone familiar with its anti-gun bent, attempted to bolster a claim that “these rifles were meant for the military, not civilians.”

www.ammoland.com

 

[progressive hunter]

So……the AR-15 was designated a civilian rifle one year before the M16 was issued in Vietnam….

Original ATF AR-15 Classification Refutes Claim that Rifle ‘Not Meant’ for Civilians

[T]he magazine, unsurprisingly to anyone familiar with its anti-gun bent, attempted to bolster a claim that “these rifles were meant for the military, not civilians.”

www.ammoland.com

doesnt really matter since the 2nd A was specific for military grade weapons,,

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

doesnt really matter since the 2nd A was specific for military grade weapons,,

How so? When it says that people are allowed to bear arms against tyrants foreign or domestic, the people are allowed to be on equal footing against those tyrants.

 

[progressive hunter]

How so? When it says that people are allowed to bear arms against tyrants foreign or domestic, the people are allowed to be on equal footing against those tyrants.

I was talking about the 2nd amendment,, not sure what youre talking about,,

but it seems like the outcome for both is the same,,

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I was talking about the 2nd amendment,, not sure what youre talking about,,

but it seems like the outcome for both is the same,,

Instead of listening to CNN or MSNBC, actually look into the Bill of Rights.....

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The Second Amendment is our last defense against tyranny. The right to keep and bear arms is a doomsday provision to be used as a last resort when all other rights fail. The founders saw firearm ownership as so necessary that they enumerated this right second in the Bill of Rights, immediately after defining the right to free speech.

Second Amendment: Last Line of Defense Against Tyranny​

conservative-daily.com/the-constitution/second-amendment-last-line-of-defense-ag…

 

[progressive hunter]

Instead of listening to CNN or MSNBC, actually look into the Bill of Rights.....

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The Second Amendment is our last defense against tyranny. The right to keep and bear arms is a doomsday provision to be used as a last resort when all other rights fail. The founders saw firearm ownership as so necessary that they enumerated this right second in the Bill of Rights, immediately after defining the right to free speech.

Second Amendment: Last Line of Defense Against Tyranny​

conservative-daily.com/the-constitution/second-amendment-last-line-of-defense-ag…

the 2nd A is in the bill of rights dumbass,,

 

[daveman]

Another leftist talking point proven false. But they'll keep bitterly clinging to it.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

the 2nd A is in the bill of rights dumbass,,

what i said

Instead of listening to CNN or MSNBC, actually look into the Bill of Rights.....

Are you retarded ?

 

[progressive hunter]

what i said Are you retarded ?

I'm thinking youre misunderstanding my original statement,, try going back and reading and tell me how thats different from what you said except I referenced the 2nd A and you didnt,,

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I'm thinking youre misunderstanding my original statement,, try going back and reading and tell me how thats different from what you said except I referenced the 2nd A and you didnt,,

I thought that you were interpreting that the people arent allowed to have the same weapons as the government...

 

[progressive hunter]

I thought that you were interpreting that the people arent allowed to have the same weapons as the government...

not sure how you got that from what I said,,

but it isnt what I meant,,
in fact if you read all of the 2nd A it is specific to allow military grade weapons since a militia is a civilian military,,

 

[Vastator]

doesnt really matter since the 2nd A was specific for military grade weapons,,

The citizens of a country "of the People", "for the People", and "by the People"; should never be outgunned by those whom have been chosen to humbly serve them...

 

[Bell Huey]

So……the AR-15 was designated a civilian rifle one year before the M16 was issued in Vietnam….


U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “This responds to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request … concerning the following: 1. All classification letters (or if classification letters were named in some other way, those records) regarding Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle, Serial No. GX4968 which was approved in approximately 1963; and 2. All classification letters … for AR-15 platform rifles predating the submission to the ATF for the Colt AR15 SP1 Sporter Rifle,” Adam C. Siple, Chief Information and Privacy Governance Division, notified attorney Stephen Stamboulieh in a Nov. 22 response (see below). “In response to your request, we have processed a total of 2 pages of responsive material.

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Colt sent a pilot model rifle (serial no. GX4968) to the BATF for civilian sale approval on Oct. 23, 1963. It was approved on Dec. 10, 1963, and sales of the ‘Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle’ began on Jan 2, 1964,” one critic of the article contended. “The M16 wasn’t issued to infantry units until 1965 (as the XM16E1), wasn’t standardized as the M16A1 until 1967, and didn’t officially replace the M14 until 1969.

Original ATF AR-15 Classification Refutes Claim that Rifle ‘Not Meant’ for Civilians

[T]he magazine, unsurprisingly to anyone familiar with its anti-gun bent, attempted to bolster a claim that “these rifles were meant for the military, not civilians.”

www.ammoland.com

I am sure you remember this artcle The5thHorseman . It contains the original ATF (BATF) certification letter confirming it is not a machine gun, a combat weapon, or a NFA weapon and ok for civilian sale.

 

[The5thHorseman]

So……the AR-15 was designated a civilian rifle one year before the M16 was issued in Vietnam….


U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “This responds to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request … concerning the following: 1. All classification letters (or if classification letters were named in some other way, those records) regarding Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle, Serial No. GX4968 which was approved in approximately 1963; and 2. All classification letters … for AR-15 platform rifles predating the submission to the ATF for the Colt AR15 SP1 Sporter Rifle,” Adam C. Siple, Chief Information and Privacy Governance Division, notified attorney Stephen Stamboulieh in a Nov. 22 response (see below). “In response to your request, we have processed a total of 2 pages of responsive material.

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Colt sent a pilot model rifle (serial no. GX4968) to the BATF for civilian sale approval on Oct. 23, 1963. It was approved on Dec. 10, 1963, and sales of the ‘Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle’ began on Jan 2, 1964,” one critic of the article contended. “The M16 wasn’t issued to infantry units until 1965 (as the XM16E1), wasn’t standardized as the M16A1 until 1967, and didn’t officially replace the M14 until 1969.

Original ATF AR-15 Classification Refutes Claim that Rifle ‘Not Meant’ for Civilians

[T]he magazine, unsurprisingly to anyone familiar with its anti-gun bent, attempted to bolster a claim that “these rifles were meant for the military, not civilians.”

www.ammoland.com

The Air Force ordered their first batch in 1962, more than a year before Colt submitted the modified design for approval.

 

[Bell Huey]

The Air Force ordered their first batch in 1962, more than a year before Colt submitted the modified design for approval.

They did not order a batch of Colt AR 15 Sporters, which were semiautomatic. What they received was the Colt Armalite 15 or the XM16 for testing puposes.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The Air Force ordered their first batch in 1962, more than a year before Colt submitted the modified design for approval.

So it was found that the AR-15 wasnt a weapon of war, and needed to be modified for approval to then be a weapon of war. Intelligent people know the difference, Marxist/Democrats just cant get their heads out of their ass..

 

[M14 Shooter]

"All bearable arms"
The AR15 stands under this umbrella
There's no sound argument to the contrary.
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[Bell Huey]

2aguy

I don't think The5thHorseman is not going to be in the area of the forum to often. His knowledge of the subject is based on the talking points of others.

 

[The5thHorseman]

2aguy

I don't think The5thHorseman is not going to be in the area of the forum to often. His knowledge of the subject is based on the talking points of others.

You're lying.

It's based on research and citations.

 

[M14 Shooter]

2aguy

I don't think The5thHorseman is not going to be in the area of the forum to often. His knowledge of the subject is based on the talking points of others.

99.99% of the anti-gun side canot argue past the talking points.
Those who can, almost always have to lie to do it.