Bbc picked up the Dearborn heights shooting: new trayvon

[novasteve]

BBC News - Renisha McBride, 19, was shot in face by Detroit homeowner


They even tried to link it to stand your ground despite having no part. This was the guy's house. You have no duty to retreat from your home . Also why did she wait two hours?

 

[jon_berzerk]

BBC News - Renisha McBride, 19, was shot in face by Detroit homeowner


They even tried to link it to stand your ground despite having no part. This was the guy's house. You have no duty to retreat from your home . Also why did she wait two hours?

SYG ground would not be the case

self defense possible however i suspect

he could be charged with negligent manslaughter

since he said he accidentally shot her

although he said he feared for his life

 

[novasteve]

A liberal lynch mob is being formed

 

[TheOldSchool]

You're pathetic

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

She hit a parked car? Was she stoned?

To early to be trotting out Al Sharpton and crew.

 

[novasteve]

Why did she wait 2 hours?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

I dunno - as much as I would like to defend this guy, why did he point the gun at her? You don't point a gun at anyone unless you are planing to shoot them.

Also, was she shot inside or out? Outside is going to be a tough one for the jury to swallow.

 

[novasteve]

He said he accidentally shot her in conjunction with fearing a burglary. Not a murder conviction, this liberal outrage

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

He said he accidentally shot her in conjunction with fearing a burglary. Not a murder conviction, this liberal outrage

It was an accident, eh? He slipped on a banana peal and shot her in the face?

Right ... I can see that, happens all the time.

 

[novasteve]

If the jury believes even slightly that it was an accident, to be reasonable doubt, then not guilty .

 

[WorldWatcher]

If the jury believes even slightly that it was an accident, to be reasonable doubt, then not guilty .

Depends on the charge.

Murder 1? Probably, as it would be difficult to show any degree of premeditation.

Negligent Homicide? Not as likely because it is negligent to point a shotgun at someones face with your finger on the trigger and then say the discharge was accidental (i.e. the "oops I slipped" defense) and even if it was "accidental" that does not absolve the individual for the negligent action of pointing a gun at someones face with your finger on the trigger.


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[Mad_Cabbie]

If the jury believes even slightly that it was an accident, to be reasonable doubt, then not guilty .

If you shot someone because you were pointing a gun at them - how is that an "accident?"

Why was he face to face with her? Did he go outside to confront her?

 

[novasteve]

I shot myself with a BB gun, pointed it at myself and I had no intention for it to shoot but it accidentally did

 

[novasteve]

If he reasonably believed she was a burglar Snd he felt his life I. Danger then he would be allowed to shoot her, but not accidentally shoot her if he felt his life were in danger?

 

[WorldWatcher]

I shot myself with a BB gun, pointed it at myself and I had no intention for it to shoot but it accidentally did

Has nothing to do with negligent homicide.

However, I'm pretty sure if the homeowner had pointed the shotgun at his own face and pulled the trigger "accidentally" killing himself then the likelihood of his being charged is pretty low.


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[PredFan]

1. Lets wait until the facts are in, all if them.
2. Lets stop repeating the blatantly stupid line that you don't point a gun at someone if you aren't going to shoot. If I can run someone off simply by showing the the business end of my gun, that is preferable to pulling the trigger.

 

[WorldWatcher]

If he reasonably believed she was a burglar Snd he felt his life I. Danger then he would be allowed to shoot her, but not accidentally shoot her if he felt his life were in danger?

That is the question to be investigated and a determination made and that is whether his action were "reasonable".

Is there any indication that the person was attempting a burglary? Is there any indication that the person presented a threat? Where was the body found, in the house or outside? Did the homeowner exit the house to enable him to point the gun at her face with his finger in the trigger to "accidentally" discharge it?

Not saying anything one way or the other, as we don't have enough information at this point.



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[bodecea]

I shot myself with a BB gun, pointed it at myself and I had no intention for it to shoot but it accidentally did

Now THAT I can believe.

 

[novasteve]

If he reasonably believed she was a burglar Snd he felt his life I. Danger then he would be allowed to shoot her, but not accidentally shoot her if he felt his life were in danger?

That is the question to be investigated and a determination made and that is whether his action were "reasonable".

Is there any indication that the person was attempting a burglary? Is there any indication that the person presented a threat? Where was the body found, in the house or outside? Did the homeowner exit the house to enable him to point the gun at her face with his finger in the trigger to "accidentally" discharge it?

Not saying anything one way or the other, as we don't have enough information at this point.



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The justice for people will be satisfied with nothing other than a murder verdict

 

[manifold]

1. Lets wait until the facts are in, all if them.

I agree.

But as we learned from the Zimmerman case, sometimes even the facts can't penetrate a preconceived narrative.