Because the key to small government is criminalizing rain water collection

[SwimExpert]

And this is why we have candidates like Drumpf. When Republicans insert themselves into your lives so much that collecting rain water is illegal, you know we have really lost our fucking way.

So. Much. Fail.

But, their efforts could face challenges, as anti-water conservation lawmakers could potentially kill the bill. Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg (R-Sterling, CO), who was responsible for the demise of the rain barrel bill last year, could fight the bill once again.

The reason that Sonnenberg and other legislators have defended this antiquated policy lies in the complicated world of water law in the American West. Opposition to rain barrels is driven by an entrenched agriculture and water lobby, grounded in a strict interpretation of water law.

 

[SwimExpert]

Everyone afraid to touch this one, eh?

 

[Avatar4321]

How incredibly stupid. Why would you oppose citizens collecting rainwater?

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, this old Liberal is not afraid to touch it. Typical GOP tactics to prevent homeowners from any form of independence. Look at who hates solar energy, and who legislates to prevent the homeowner from disconnecting from the grid. And who hates the idea of individual wind mills? So, in Colorado, you cannot collect rain off your own roof. Amazing. And amazing that the GOP would do this. Make it an issue, make Colorado blue!

 

[SwimExpert]

How incredibly stupid. Why would you oppose citizens collecting rainwater?

Because of the water lobby. Apparently water has a lobby. When will the people have a lobby?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Collecting Rainwater is Illegal in Some States-Truth! & Fiction!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Well, this old Liberal is not afraid to touch it. Typical GOP tactics to prevent homeowners from any form of independence. Look at who hates solar energy, and who legislates to prevent the homeowner from disconnecting from the grid. And who hates the idea of individual wind mills? So, in Colorado, you cannot collect rain off your own roof. Amazing. And amazing that the GOP would do this. Make it an issue, make Colorado blue!

Would you like to reconsider this lie?

 

[easyt65]

My property.
Rain falls on my property.
MY rain.
My property.
'Trespassers will be shot.'

'Nuff said.

 

[Rustic]

And this is why we have candidates like Drumpf. When Republicans insert themselves into your lives so much that collecting rain water is illegal, you know we have really lost our fucking way.

So. Much. Fail.

But, their efforts could face challenges, as anti-water conservation lawmakers could potentially kill the bill. Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg (R-Sterling, CO), who was responsible for the demise of the rain barrel bill last year, could fight the bill once again.

The reason that Sonnenberg and other legislators have defended this antiquated policy lies in the complicated world of water law in the American West. Opposition to rain barrels is driven by an entrenched agriculture and water lobby, grounded in a strict interpretation of water law.

Who gives a shit

 

[Avatar4321]

Had a professor in law school who was an expert in water law. Never knew water law existed before then

 

[Old Rocks]

Florida Makes Off-Grid Living Illegal – Mandates All Homes Must Be Connected To Electricity & Water Grid

Robin Speronis lives off the grid in Florida, completely independent of the city’s water and electric system. A few weeks ago, officials ruled her off-grid home illegal. Officials cited the International Property Maintenance Code, which mandates that homes be connected to an electricity grid and a running water source.

That’s like saying our dependency on corporations isn’t even a choice. The choice to live without most utilities has been ongoing for Robin, the self-sufficient woman has lived for more than a year and a half using solar energy, a propane camping stove, and rain water.

In the end, she was found not guilty of not having a proper sewer or electrical system; but was guilty of not being hooked up to an approved water supply.

Speronis is still being hassled by the municipality of Cape Coral for not having a connection to city water, nor proper sewage. This is regardless of the fact that the city capped her sewers themselves.

Robin Speronis during a news interview.

Is Off-Grid Really Illegal?
In essence, yes. To live off the grid means to not have to hook up to any corporate or municipal utilities. If a municipality makes it illegal to disconnect from any given utility, they are in essence making off grid living illegal.

Really?

 

[Avatar4321]

And this is why we have candidates like Drumpf. When Republicans insert themselves into your lives so much that collecting rain water is illegal, you know we have really lost our fucking way.

So. Much. Fail.

But, their efforts could face challenges, as anti-water conservation lawmakers could potentially kill the bill. Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg (R-Sterling, CO), who was responsible for the demise of the rain barrel bill last year, could fight the bill once again.

The reason that Sonnenberg and other legislators have defended this antiquated policy lies in the complicated world of water law in the American West. Opposition to rain barrels is driven by an entrenched agriculture and water lobby, grounded in a strict interpretation of water law.

Who gives a shit

Thirsty people
Farmers
People for self government

Lots of people

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Well, this old Liberal is not afraid to touch it. Typical GOP tactics to prevent homeowners from any form of independence. Look at who hates solar energy, and who legislates to prevent the homeowner from disconnecting from the grid. And who hates the idea of individual wind mills? So, in Colorado, you cannot collect rain off your own roof. Amazing. And amazing that the GOP would do this. Make it an issue, make Colorado blue!

Oregon has the same rain water policy and it's run by Democrats.

 

[easyt65]

...and of course the law only applies to those being ruled as the rulers have exempted themselves from the law.

 

[Old Rocks]

Why Are Florida And Texas So Strongly Against Off-Grid Living Practices That They Deem It Illegal?

Citizens of Earth have been cautioned on timeless occasions to control their consumption of fossil fuels and rely more on sustainable and renewable resources. Many countries, including America, openly support the practice of sustainable living. Then why are the states of Florida and Texas trying to curb the good-for-mother-nature practice?

Really?

Living off the grid as a lifestyle is being increasingly examined and experimented with by people who feel they can survive by not utilizing the resources offered by the utility companies. It essentially means primarily living independently of the utility companies. Using renewable resources like the sun, wind, and water bodies nearby, people are trying to generate their own power by using rain water harvesting techniques; they have successfully severed the water connection offered by the city. Moreover, many people have even taken additional steps to manage their own waste.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, this old Liberal is not afraid to touch it. Typical GOP tactics to prevent homeowners from any form of independence. Look at who hates solar energy, and who legislates to prevent the homeowner from disconnecting from the grid. And who hates the idea of individual wind mills? So, in Colorado, you cannot collect rain off your own roof. Amazing. And amazing that the GOP would do this. Make it an issue, make Colorado blue!

Oregon has the same rain water policy and it's run by Democrats.

No, it does not. Look up the law before making such statements.

State Rainwater Harvesting Laws and Legislation

Oregon

Rainwater harvesting is allowed in Oregon, but may only be done from roof surfaces. Oregon Revised Statute §455.060 allows for alternate methods of construction of rainwater harvesting systems. The Oregon Building Codes Division (BCD) has approved the use of rainwater harvesting systems as an alternate method to the state plumbing code. It created methods for both potable and non-potable systems.

Senate Bill 79 (2009) directs the BCD to increase energy efficiency, by including rainwater harvesting, in new and repaired buildings.

 

[SwimExpert]

If you have rain, you didn't build that!

 

[SuperDemocrat]

And this is why we have candidates like Drumpf. When Republicans insert themselves into your lives so much that collecting rain water is illegal, you know we have really lost our fucking way.

So. Much. Fail.

But, their efforts could face challenges, as anti-water conservation lawmakers could potentially kill the bill. Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg (R-Sterling, CO), who was responsible for the demise of the rain barrel bill last year, could fight the bill once again.

The reason that Sonnenberg and other legislators have defended this antiquated policy lies in the complicated world of water law in the American West. Opposition to rain barrels is driven by an entrenched agriculture and water lobby, grounded in a strict interpretation of water law.

Lets actually blame how we interpret the law instead of the law itself as the cause of this.

 

[SwimExpert]

Lets actually blame how we interpret the law instead of the law itself as the cause of this.

Horse shit. If the 'interpretation' of the law leads to absurd places, then that is what we call 'unintended consequences.' It's a prime reason that the government needs to keep out of people's lives where there is no need for them to be involved. Like rain water on people's private property.

 

[Old Rocks]

Swim, learn something about western states water laws. Since there are private properties that are many thousands of acres in extant, the runoff was part of prior water rights laws. You can save rooftop water. You cannot save the water that falls on your acreage. If the person downstream has prior water rights, you have no right to that water.