Bernie's college loan forgiveness trick.

[Polishprince]

If someone never went to the Government School system, and their kids didn't do it either, should they have to pay school tax?

Although I did attend Government kindergarten, my mum thought I needed instruction in nap time, and I excelled in that as well as in playing with clay and painting on the easels.

 

[Ame®icano]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

My RE taxes pay for K-12. It is not free.

Those who don't pay real estate taxes and have no skin in the game think it's free.

The same ones most likely aren't paying federal income taxes neither.

 

[Polishprince]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

My RE taxes pay for K-12. It is not free.

Those who don't pay real estate taxes and have no skin in the game think it's free.

The same ones most likely aren't paying federal income taxes neither.

Mitt Romney was Literally Crucified by the media for his "47%" remark, but he had a point that a large swath of the electorate could give a shit less about taxes as they don't pay them. And that's the main support for marxists like those on the stage this week in Charleston.

 

[Ame®icano]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

K-12 is only "free" in the Failed Government School system. Parents usually have to pay if they give a shit about education.

Crazy Bernie's plan would be a catastrophe to the country. Having millions of college educated people who have no employable skills is not going to be good. Getting people out of Free College is going to be a problem as well, a lot of students will want to stay around in college for many, many years, like the immortal Sonny Drysdale did.

no k-12 is not free. People pay through property taxes or taxes the general local populace have to buy like license plates, or personal property stickers. No, for the umpteenth millionth time, nothing is ever free. STOP!!!!!!!!! the insanity of FREEE!!!!!!!

For them it's not insanity. They ride the wave we provided for them.

Those losers who live in moms basements, getting free school lunches, live on food stamps, going to school for free, and tons of other entitlements, never had to take responsibility for anything. Now when facing paying for something... How dare you!!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sometimes a drowning person will drag others under as they go down. That’s pretty much explains the scam of college loans and the people who never understood the Latin phrase, “Caveat Emptor”. For the newly college-educated and the parents stuck with the Ponzi bills of that education, it means “Let the buyer beware”.

College has changed tremendously over the decades. Actual coursework has been dumbed down to attract tuition money, especially for liberal arts colleges. Instead of training students to do useful things that benefit society, many liberal arts institutions have become stooge factories for political correctness to produce idiosyncratic outcomes of interest to academics but worthless to the general population.

While many of today’s college graduates waste time and money on what is essentially four extra years of high school, they often find themselves four years behind someone who went right to work-only they’re stuck with a huge bill for their wasted effort. They know all about white privilege and transgender rights, but they can barely read the contents of restaurant menu and they can’t put together anything in writing that would qualify as a respectable grocery list.

This is what makes Bernie Sanders so dangerous because he is telling people who bought a pig in a poke that he will force the rest of working America to pay the bad debt. Imagine if someone went to a casino and gambled away all their rent and food money. Then a politician comes along and says, Hey, elect me and I’ll make your neighbors pay your gambling tab. It’s got nothing to with socialism, it’s a way for people going down for the third time to drag the rest of us down with them.

Many who would vote for Sanders couldn’t care less about his admiration for Fidel Castro, they see a way for a new, ultra-progressive government to impose onerous taxation on you and I to pay for their mistakes. Your government has already taken away your company pensions and health insurance and replaced them with handicap parking spaces and electric shopping cart scooters because it thinks you are too stupid to know the difference.

It’s marching Corona Virus through Mexico into your neighborhoods because bureaucratic arrogance thinks microbes will bow down to central planning. Bernie Sanders is the ultimate nightmare to destroy the American dream. The Democratic party is done. Payday loan center colleges have seen to that.

Bernie Sanders is not only not American, he is full blown anti-American.

The college loans are a fraud. Hundreds of thousands for a worthless gender studies degree is a fraud. No 18 year old should be making such decisions.

Forgive the debt, pay for it from university funds who initiated the scam. Afterwards make worthless degrees illegal. We need some serious regulation here.

I say make the colleges make the loans themselves....

Then, if they award useless degrees and the loans can't be repaid, the colleges eat the loss...

Hey, that was my idea!!!!

 

[Ame®icano]

Sometimes a drowning person will drag others under as they go down. That’s pretty much explains the scam of college loans and the people who never understood the Latin phrase, “Caveat Emptor”. For the newly college-educated and the parents stuck with the Ponzi bills of that education, it means “Let the buyer beware”.

College has changed tremendously over the decades. Actual coursework has been dumbed down to attract tuition money, especially for liberal arts colleges. Instead of training students to do useful things that benefit society, many liberal arts institutions have become stooge factories for political correctness to produce idiosyncratic outcomes of interest to academics but worthless to the general population.

While many of today’s college graduates waste time and money on what is essentially four extra years of high school, they often find themselves four years behind someone who went right to work-only they’re stuck with a huge bill for their wasted effort. They know all about white privilege and transgender rights, but they can barely read the contents of restaurant menu and they can’t put together anything in writing that would qualify as a respectable grocery list.

This is what makes Bernie Sanders so dangerous because he is telling people who bought a pig in a poke that he will force the rest of working America to pay the bad debt. Imagine if someone went to a casino and gambled away all their rent and food money. Then a politician comes along and says, Hey, elect me and I’ll make your neighbors pay your gambling tab. It’s got nothing to with socialism, it’s a way for people going down for the third time to drag the rest of us down with them.

Many who would vote for Sanders couldn’t care less about his admiration for Fidel Castro, they see a way for a new, ultra-progressive government to impose onerous taxation on you and I to pay for their mistakes. Your government has already taken away your company pensions and health insurance and replaced them with handicap parking spaces and electric shopping cart scooters because it thinks you are too stupid to know the difference.

It’s marching Corona Virus through Mexico into your neighborhoods because bureaucratic arrogance thinks microbes will bow down to central planning. Bernie Sanders is the ultimate nightmare to destroy the American dream. The Democratic party is done. Payday loan center colleges have seen to that.

Bernie Sanders is not only not American, he is full blown anti-American.

The college loans are a fraud. Hundreds of thousands for a worthless gender studies degree is a fraud. No 18 year old should be making such decisions.

Forgive the debt, pay for it from university funds who initiated the scam. Afterwards make worthless degrees illegal. We need some serious regulation here.

I say make the colleges make the loans themselves....

Then, if they award useless degrees and the loans can't be repaid, the colleges eat the loss...

There are schools like that already, and thriving.

Income Share Agreements: A Crazy Alternative to Student Loans

 

[Nostra]

 

[Polishprince]

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Mini Mike is an intolerable little tyrant. But at least he had the decency to support his own children

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

/——/ If you rent them you pay school taxes. It’s built in to the cost.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How about just making current bank interest rates retroactive to when the loans were foisted off on, er, that is, were offered to students?
We saved the banks, can't we do something for the students?

Sander's confiscatory policies go after taxpayers but if he were serious about improving the country he would dispossess America's colleges and Universities of the trillions they have in banks from alumni donations. He would also curtail tax breaks many colleges get nationally and locally and use that money to relieve student debt. The students are the least culpable in this scam.

Another fucking communist heard from!

 

[Flash]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

 

[there4eyeM]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

 

[Norman]

Sometimes a drowning person will drag others under as they go down. That’s pretty much explains the scam of college loans and the people who never understood the Latin phrase, “Caveat Emptor”. For the newly college-educated and the parents stuck with the Ponzi bills of that education, it means “Let the buyer beware”.

College has changed tremendously over the decades. Actual coursework has been dumbed down to attract tuition money, especially for liberal arts colleges. Instead of training students to do useful things that benefit society, many liberal arts institutions have become stooge factories for political correctness to produce idiosyncratic outcomes of interest to academics but worthless to the general population.

While many of today’s college graduates waste time and money on what is essentially four extra years of high school, they often find themselves four years behind someone who went right to work-only they’re stuck with a huge bill for their wasted effort. They know all about white privilege and transgender rights, but they can barely read the contents of restaurant menu and they can’t put together anything in writing that would qualify as a respectable grocery list.

This is what makes Bernie Sanders so dangerous because he is telling people who bought a pig in a poke that he will force the rest of working America to pay the bad debt. Imagine if someone went to a casino and gambled away all their rent and food money. Then a politician comes along and says, Hey, elect me and I’ll make your neighbors pay your gambling tab. It’s got nothing to with socialism, it’s a way for people going down for the third time to drag the rest of us down with them.

Many who would vote for Sanders couldn’t care less about his admiration for Fidel Castro, they see a way for a new, ultra-progressive government to impose onerous taxation on you and I to pay for their mistakes. Your government has already taken away your company pensions and health insurance and replaced them with handicap parking spaces and electric shopping cart scooters because it thinks you are too stupid to know the difference.

It’s marching Corona Virus through Mexico into your neighborhoods because bureaucratic arrogance thinks microbes will bow down to central planning. Bernie Sanders is the ultimate nightmare to destroy the American dream. The Democratic party is done. Payday loan center colleges have seen to that.

Bernie Sanders is not only not American, he is full blown anti-American.

The college loans are a fraud. Hundreds of thousands for a worthless gender studies degree is a fraud. No 18 year old should be making such decisions.

Forgive the debt, pay for it from university funds who initiated the scam. Afterwards make worthless degrees illegal. We need some serious regulation here.

I say make the colleges make the loans themselves....

Then, if they award useless degrees and the loans can't be repaid, the colleges eat the loss...

Government should be nowhere near it. And of course, student debt has special status which makes it impossible to discharge in a bankruptcy. Vital element of the scam...

18 year olds coming out of public schools can not make this kind of decisions. The loan should be discharged automatically if the recipient performed well enough in the college and can not find a job matching the university claims, which should by law far exceed minimum wage job.

It is completely preposterous system where students pay for their own indoctrination and gain nothing but resent in return. Can't really fault people who have been scammed and want their money back, even though of course there are some moochers among them.

 

[Polishprince]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

 

[there4eyeM]

If someone never went to the Government School system, and their kids didn't do it either, should they have to pay school tax?

Although I did attend Government kindergarten, my mum thought I needed instruction in nap time, and I excelled in that as well as in playing with clay and painting on the easels.

So, children are not assured of an education, cannot contribute as much to gross domestic product, and we all pay for the shortfall.
Why, do people think, that 'free' (paid for collectively for the collective good) compulsory (so children spend time learning instead of serving) education was started in the first place, pure altruism?

 

[there4eyeM]

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

Incredibly short sighted.

 

[iceberg]

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

I don't use the schools. however if I have a good school district it does affect my property value.

 

[jc456]

How about just making current bank interest rates retroactive to when the loans were foisted off on, er, that is, were offered to students?
We saved the banks, can't we do something for the students?

Sander's confiscatory policies go after taxpayers but if he were serious about improving the country he would dispossess America's colleges and Universities of the trillions they have in banks from alumni donations. He would also curtail tax breaks many colleges get nationally and locally and use that money to relieve student debt. The students are the least culpable in this scam.

least cupable? they took out the loans. too fking funny. when nuts is all you got between your ears.

 

[Nostra]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Providing for the national defense is in the Constitution. Free education isn't.

 

[Polishprince]

If someone never went to the Government School system, and their kids didn't do it either, should they have to pay school tax?

Although I did attend Government kindergarten, my mum thought I needed instruction in nap time, and I excelled in that as well as in playing with clay and painting on the easels.

So, children are not assured of an education, cannot contribute as much to gross domestic product, and we all pay for the shortfall.
Why, do people think, that 'free' (paid for collectively for the collective good) compulsory (so children spend time learning instead of serving) education was started in the first place, pure altruism?

My idea is to have the PARENTS provide for the education of their own children


Right now, in many liberal areas, the children don't learn shit in the government schools. 47% of all high school GRADUATES in the city of Detroit are totally and completely, Functionally Illiterate. They would do better to have their parents teach them