Boom!!!! Judge in Manafort case says Mueller only wants to hurt Trump

Mueller's too experienced to not have considered passing the charges onto a DOJ office for filing a complaint, as was done on Cohen. Manafort's been in the DOJ's cross-hairs for a long time. Report: FBI, DOJ looking at Manafort in Ukraine investigation

But Mueller must think there's a nexus or common ground between Manafort's being a fixer for Ukraine's pro-Russian Yanukovych and any contacts between Russia and Trump. Obviously Mueller doesn't want to disclose what contacts he knows about, and Trump supporters complain none is shown.

But perhaps the Judge will make Mueller say why it should be his "jackboot" (-: on Manafort's neck rather than some other federal prosecutor's "jack boot." (-:

Don't you find it odd that the Podesta group worked for the same Ukrainian clients as Manafort and didn't register as foreign agents either. BUT only freaking Manafort is charged but not the Podesta group?

OR that during the election the Podesta group actually worked for the state bank of Russia to lift sanctions but there is no investigation of a direct Russian link to the Clinton campaign?
Did Russia intervene to sabotage the election in Clinton’s favor? No? Well there’s your answer.

And still no collusion. O also intervened to sabotage israel' election. You had no problem with that.
So I'm wondering, is this the opening to get Mueller to show his cards? Hey Pres, look at this, go to this judge through Manafort and have the judge rule he must show his intent.
 
You assert the court said Mueller wants to force Manafort to be a "false witness." That's not close.

The Judge rightfully has two concerns. 1. Mueller isn't moving anyhow to prosecute Manafort on the charges he's indicted for. 2. Unless Mueller can show some connection to the charges involving Manafort's money connections to Yanukovich and the 2016 campaign, the special counsel shouldn't be involved.
I have no idea where to go with this, it will take at least 11 paragraphs to fix
have at it, geius. (-:
 
And now parts that were left out in the OP.
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You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T.S. Ellis III said during a morning hearing. “You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
Manafort was seeking to have the bank and tax fraud charges against him dismissed in federal court in Alexandria, with his lawyers arguing that the alleged crimes have nothing to do with the election or with President Trump.
Ellis agreed, but he made no immediate decision on the defense motion. He said even without such a connection the special counsel, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, may well still have the authority to bring the charges
“I’m not saying it’s illegitimate,” Ellis said.

Federal judge in Virginia grills special counsel on Manafort investigation
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and? wasn't the link given?
The OP and the topic title are a classic lie of omission.

It's what pseuedocons like you and the topic starter are very good at.
 
You assert the court said Mueller wants to force Manafort to be a "false witness." That's not close.

The Judge rightfully has two concerns. 1. Mueller isn't moving anyhow to prosecute Manafort on the charges he's indicted for. 2. Unless Mueller can show some connection to the charges involving Manafort's money connections to Yanukovich and the 2016 campaign, the special counsel shouldn't be involved.
I have no idea where to go with this, it will take at least 11 paragraphs to fix
have at it, geius. (-:
it would take one to decipher that mumbled mess.
 
Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Oh dear, looks like the Left will have to impeach judge Ellis as well, in addition to raping his wife and killing his children and removing him from pictures in any photos.
Why would anyone want to do that? You have some very violent and inappropriate fantasies.
 
Mueller's too experienced to not have considered passing the charges onto a DOJ office for filing a complaint, as was done on Cohen. Manafort's been in the DOJ's cross-hairs for a long time. Report: FBI, DOJ looking at Manafort in Ukraine investigation

But Mueller must think there's a nexus or common ground between Manafort's being a fixer for Ukraine's pro-Russian Yanukovych and any contacts between Russia and Trump. Obviously Mueller doesn't want to disclose what contacts he knows about, and Trump supporters complain none is shown.

But perhaps the Judge will make Mueller say why it should be his "jackboot" (-: on Manafort's neck rather than some other federal prosecutor's "jack boot." (-:

Don't you find it odd that the Podesta group worked for the same Ukrainian clients as Manafort and didn't register as foreign agents either. BUT only freaking Manafort is charged but not the Podesta group?

OR that during the election the Podesta group actually worked for the state bank of Russia to lift sanctions but there is no investigation of a direct Russian link to the Clinton campaign?
Did Russia intervene to sabotage the election in Clinton’s favor? No? Well there’s your answer.

And still no collusion. O also intervened to sabotage israel' election. You had no problem with that.
No because it was in America’s interests. If I were Russian, I’d be pretty happy about Putin humiliating the stupid Americans.
 
Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Oh dear, looks like the Left will have to impeach judge Ellis as well, in addition to raping his wife and killing his children and removing him from pictures in any photos.
Why would anyone want to do that? You have some very violent and inappropriate fantasies.

Well I'm no Bill Clinton or Bernie Sanders.

I just hope the good judge is not found in bed dead with a pillow over his face like you know who.
 
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And now parts that were left out in the OP.
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You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T.S. Ellis III said during a morning hearing. “You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
Manafort was seeking to have the bank and tax fraud charges against him dismissed in federal court in Alexandria, with his lawyers arguing that the alleged crimes have nothing to do with the election or with President Trump.
Ellis agreed, but he made no immediate decision on the defense motion. He said even without such a connection the special counsel, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, may well still have the authority to bring the charges
“I’m not saying it’s illegitimate,” Ellis said.

Federal judge in Virginia grills special counsel on Manafort investigation
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Oh fucking bite me. The point of the Judge's statement is he is pointing out the freaking motive.

:lol:

You missing the point. It doesn't matter what the judge said during the proceedings. The question before the court is whether the Mueller charges against Manafort are within the scope of the investigation....and they obviously are.

Manafort will lose again.
I am not sure that the Manafort Ukraine charges are within the Spec Counsel's scope. However, Mueller is an honorable man - as honor is seen among career federal prosecutors whose tactics could make Tony Soprano wince - so when he says there's a connection to Ukraine and the election, I think there is.

But, the judge seems to be saying "show me."
 
Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics
File this under 'NO $HIT!'
 
Mueller's too experienced to not have considered passing the charges onto a DOJ office for filing a complaint, as was done on Cohen. Manafort's been in the DOJ's cross-hairs for a long time. Report: FBI, DOJ looking at Manafort in Ukraine investigation

But Mueller must think there's a nexus or common ground between Manafort's being a fixer for Ukraine's pro-Russian Yanukovych and any contacts between Russia and Trump. Obviously Mueller doesn't want to disclose what contacts he knows about, and Trump supporters complain none is shown.

But perhaps the Judge will make Mueller say why it should be his "jackboot" (-: on Manafort's neck rather than some other federal prosecutor's "jack boot." (-:

Don't you find it odd that the Podesta group worked for the same Ukrainian clients as Manafort and didn't register as foreign agents either. BUT only freaking Manafort is charged but not the Podesta group?

OR that during the election the Podesta group actually worked for the state bank of Russia to lift sanctions but there is no investigation of a direct Russian link to the Clinton campaign?
Did Russia intervene to sabotage the election in Clinton’s favor? No? Well there’s your answer.

And still no collusion. O also intervened to sabotage israel' election. You had no problem with that.
No because it was in America’s interests. If I were Russian, I’d be pretty happy about Putin humiliating the stupid Americans.
put it isn't putin, it's the demoloser party.
 
Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Oh dear, looks like the Left will have to impeach judge Ellis as well, in addition to raping his wife and killing his children and removing him from pictures in any photos.
Why would anyone want to do that? You have some very violent and inappropriate fantasies.
cause it's what leftist do? just saying, if it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck, well it's a .....duck
 
Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Oh dear, looks like the Left will have to impeach judge Ellis as well, in addition to raping his wife and killing his children and removing him from pictures in any photos.
Why would anyone want to do that? You have some very violent and inappropriate fantasies.
cause it's what leftist do? just saying, if it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck, well it's a .....duck
Like all these Trump campaign officials with ties to Russia...quack, quack, quack.
 
BOOM !!!!!!!!

MEULLER COULD CARE LESS !

The investigation continues
 
The judge is correct that the feebs are using the bank fraud case to twist Manafort's life to get the dope on Trump.

So what?

That is how these things work.
no, the judge is claiming the prosecution doesn't care at all about maniforts guilt or innocence, he is making the case that the prosecution is abusing the legal system because Manifort is not bearing false witness for them...that's how this thing is going

Yet he didn't stop the investigation. If the prosecution is abusing the legal system, he would have stopped the investigation.
 

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