Boom!!!! Judge in Manafort case says Mueller only wants to hurt Trump

[bripat9643]

The judge is correct that the feebs are using the bank fraud case to twist Manafort's life to get the dope on Trump.

So what?

That is how these things work.

That's how a corrupt system of injustice works.

 

[tinydancer]

And now parts that were left out in the OP.
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You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T.S. Ellis III said during a morning hearing. “You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
Manafort was seeking to have the bank and tax fraud charges against him dismissed in federal court in Alexandria, with his lawyers arguing that the alleged crimes have nothing to do with the election or with President Trump.
Ellis agreed, but he made no immediate decision on the defense motion. He said even without such a connection the special counsel, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, may well still have the authority to bring the charges
“I’m not saying it’s illegitimate,” Ellis said.
Federal judge in Virginia grills special counsel on Manafort investigation
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Oh fucking bite me. The point of the Judge's statement is he is pointing out the freaking motive.

Why did you leave out the complete input from Judge Ellis in your OP? I kind of tarnishes your point,,No?

Not at all. My point was to capture the essence of the Judge's comments as it relates to Mueller and his teams motive in their case against Manafort.

 

[BlackFlag]

It’s tough to weigh the need to punish Manafort for his decades of crimes against the need to get to the bottom of Trump’s treason. I wish the Mueller team the best of luck.

 

[g5000]

That's how you take down mobsters. You threaten the little fish with prosecution so they will flip on the bigger fish. This is done every day, and the judge knows that.

So?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The judge is correct that the feebs are using the bank fraud case to twist Manafort's life to get the dope on Trump.

So what?

That is how these things work.

Stay calm, I funnied you.

OK. This is how things work in terms of the bitching about Manfort. Tough.

 

[tinydancer]

Mueller's too experienced to not have considered passing the charges onto a DOJ office for filing a complaint, as was done on Cohen. Manafort's been in the DOJ's cross-hairs for a long time. Report: FBI, DOJ looking at Manafort in Ukraine investigation

But Mueller must think there's a nexus or common ground between Manafort's being a fixer for Ukraine's pro-Russian Yanukovych and any contacts between Russia and Trump. Obviously Mueller doesn't want to disclose what contacts he knows about, and Trump supporters complain none is shown.

But perhaps the Judge will make Mueller say why it should be his "jackboot" (-: on Manafort's neck rather than some other federal prosecutor's "jack boot." (-:

Don't you find it odd that the Podesta group worked for the same Ukrainian clients as Manafort and didn't register as foreign agents either. BUT only freaking Manafort is charged but not the Podesta group?

OR that during the election the Podesta group actually worked for the state bank of Russia to lift sanctions but there is no investigation of a direct Russian link to the Clinton campaign?

 

[Votto]

Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Oh dear, looks like the Left will have to impeach judge Ellis as well, in addition to raping his wife and killing his children and removing him from pictures in any photos.

 

[g5000]

Mueller's too experienced to not have considered passing the charges onto a DOJ office for filing a complaint, as was done on Cohen. Manafort's been in the DOJ's cross-hairs for a long time. Report: FBI, DOJ looking at Manafort in Ukraine investigation

But Mueller must think there's a nexus or common ground between Manafort's being a fixer for Ukraine's pro-Russian Yanukovych and any contacts between Russia and Trump. Obviously Mueller doesn't want to disclose what contacts he knows about, and Trump supporters complain none is shown.

But perhaps the Judge will make Mueller say why it should be his "jackboot" (-: on Manafort's neck rather than some other federal prosecutor's "jack boot." (-:

Don't you find it odd that the Podesta group worked for the same Ukrainian clients as Manafort and didn't register as foreign agents either. BUT only freaking Manafort is charged but not the Podesta group?

OR that during the election the Podesta group actually worked for the state bank of Russia to lift sanctions but there is no investigation of a direct Russian link to the Clinton campaign?

Under Mueller Scrutiny, Democratic Donor Tony Podesta Resigns From Lobbying Firm

 

[The Original Tree]

The Judge is making a case for Prosecutorial Misconduct, something The Mueller Goons have repeatedly been charged with before. Shocking that some of them still have their Law license.

 

[g5000]

Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Oh dear, looks like the Left will have to impeach judge Ellis as well, in addition to raping his wife and killing his children and removing him from pictures in any photos.

He's probably a Mexican whose parents came here illegally.

Oh, wait...

 

[BlackFlag]

Mueller's too experienced to not have considered passing the charges onto a DOJ office for filing a complaint, as was done on Cohen. Manafort's been in the DOJ's cross-hairs for a long time. Report: FBI, DOJ looking at Manafort in Ukraine investigation

But Mueller must think there's a nexus or common ground between Manafort's being a fixer for Ukraine's pro-Russian Yanukovych and any contacts between Russia and Trump. Obviously Mueller doesn't want to disclose what contacts he knows about, and Trump supporters complain none is shown.

But perhaps the Judge will make Mueller say why it should be his "jackboot" (-: on Manafort's neck rather than some other federal prosecutor's "jack boot." (-:

Don't you find it odd that the Podesta group worked for the same Ukrainian clients as Manafort and didn't register as foreign agents either. BUT only freaking Manafort is charged but not the Podesta group?

OR that during the election the Podesta group actually worked for the state bank of Russia to lift sanctions but there is no investigation of a direct Russian link to the Clinton campaign?

Did Russia intervene to sabotage the election in Clinton’s favor? No? Well there’s your answer.

 

[bendog]

No, but Manafort's prosecution may be referred to a different office.

So? I do not see any relevance between that and the point I was making?...and what did you mean by "no"?

You assert the court said Mueller wants to force Manafort to be a "false witness." That's not close.

The Judge rightfully has two concerns. 1. Mueller isn't moving anyhow to prosecute Manafort on the charges he's indicted for. 2. Unless Mueller can show some connection to the charges involving Manafort's money connections to Yanukovich and the 2016 campaign, the special counsel shouldn't be involved.

 

[jc456]

And now parts that were left out in the OP.
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You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T.S. Ellis III said during a morning hearing. “You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
Manafort was seeking to have the bank and tax fraud charges against him dismissed in federal court in Alexandria, with his lawyers arguing that the alleged crimes have nothing to do with the election or with President Trump.
Ellis agreed, but he made no immediate decision on the defense motion. He said even without such a connection the special counsel, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, may well still have the authority to bring the charges
“I’m not saying it’s illegitimate,” Ellis said.
Federal judge in Virginia grills special counsel on Manafort investigation
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and? wasn't the link given?

 

[jc456]

And now parts that were left out in the OP.
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You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T.S. Ellis III said during a morning hearing. “You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
Manafort was seeking to have the bank and tax fraud charges against him dismissed in federal court in Alexandria, with his lawyers arguing that the alleged crimes have nothing to do with the election or with President Trump.
Ellis agreed, but he made no immediate decision on the defense motion. He said even without such a connection the special counsel, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, may well still have the authority to bring the charges
“I’m not saying it’s illegitimate,” Ellis said.
Federal judge in Virginia grills special counsel on Manafort investigation
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Oh fucking bite me. The point of the Judge's statement is he is pointing out the freaking motive.

Why did you leave out the complete input from Judge Ellis in your OP? I kind of tarnishes your point,,No?

because it's his OP. and he provided the link. You can open and read as you wish thanks to him. you're a troll.

BTW, not worth a smiley

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Mueller's too experienced to not have considered passing the charges onto a DOJ office for filing a complaint, as was done on Cohen. Manafort's been in the DOJ's cross-hairs for a long time. Report: FBI, DOJ looking at Manafort in Ukraine investigation

But Mueller must think there's a nexus or common ground between Manafort's being a fixer for Ukraine's pro-Russian Yanukovych and any contacts between Russia and Trump. Obviously Mueller doesn't want to disclose what contacts he knows about, and Trump supporters complain none is shown.

But perhaps the Judge will make Mueller say why it should be his "jackboot" (-: on Manafort's neck rather than some other federal prosecutor's "jack boot." (-:

Don't you find it odd that the Podesta group worked for the same Ukrainian clients as Manafort and didn't register as foreign agents either. BUT only freaking Manafort is charged but not the Podesta group?

OR that during the election the Podesta group actually worked for the state bank of Russia to lift sanctions but there is no investigation of a direct Russian link to the Clinton campaign?

Did Russia intervene to sabotage the election in Clinton’s favor? No? Well there’s your answer.

And still no collusion. O also intervened to sabotage israel' election. You had no problem with that.

 

[MindWars]

Judge in Manafort Case Drops Hammer on Mueller; Alleges He is Out to Hurt Trump – True Pundit
A federal judge expressed deep skepticism Friday in the bank fraud case brought by special counsel Robert Mueller’s office against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, at one point saying he believes that Mueller’s motivation is to oust President Donald Trump from office.


A Judge who actually isn't some paid of demo-illness case why he probably won't live long.

 

[bendog]

Mueller's too experienced to not have considered passing the charges onto a DOJ office for filing a complaint, as was done on Cohen. Manafort's been in the DOJ's cross-hairs for a long time. Report: FBI, DOJ looking at Manafort in Ukraine investigation

But Mueller must think there's a nexus or common ground between Manafort's being a fixer for Ukraine's pro-Russian Yanukovych and any contacts between Russia and Trump. Obviously Mueller doesn't want to disclose what contacts he knows about, and Trump supporters complain none is shown.

But perhaps the Judge will make Mueller say why it should be his "jackboot" (-: on Manafort's neck rather than some other federal prosecutor's "jack boot." (-:

Don't you find it odd that the Podesta group worked for the same Ukrainian clients as Manafort and didn't register as foreign agents either. BUT only freaking Manafort is charged but not the Podesta group?

OR that during the election the Podesta group actually worked for the state bank of Russia to lift sanctions but there is no investigation of a direct Russian link to the Clinton campaign?

Did Russia intervene to sabotage the election in Clinton’s favor? No? Well there’s your answer.

And still no collusion. O also intervened to sabotage israel' election. You had no problem with that.

One Podesta Two

 

[Frankeneinstein]

You assert the court said Mueller wants to force Manafort to be a "false witness." That's not close.

The Judge rightfully has two concerns. 1. Mueller isn't moving anyhow to prosecute Manafort on the charges he's indicted for. 2. Unless Mueller can show some connection to the charges involving Manafort's money connections to Yanukovich and the 2016 campaign, the special counsel shouldn't be involved.

I have no idea where to go with this, it will take at least 11 paragraphs to fix

 

[bodecea]

Judge in Manafort Case Drops Hammer on Mueller; Alleges He is Out to Hurt Trump – True Pundit
A federal judge expressed deep skepticism Friday in the bank fraud case brought by special counsel Robert Mueller’s office against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, at one point saying he believes that Mueller’s motivation is to oust President Donald Trump from office.


A Judge who actually isn't some paid of demo-illness case why he probably won't live long.

Are you and Tiny Dancer the same poster?

 

[JimH52]

And now parts that were left out in the OP.
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You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T.S. Ellis III said during a morning hearing. “You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
Manafort was seeking to have the bank and tax fraud charges against him dismissed in federal court in Alexandria, with his lawyers arguing that the alleged crimes have nothing to do with the election or with President Trump.
Ellis agreed, but he made no immediate decision on the defense motion. He said even without such a connection the special counsel, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, may well still have the authority to bring the charges
“I’m not saying it’s illegitimate,” Ellis said.
Federal judge in Virginia grills special counsel on Manafort investigation
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Oh fucking bite me. The point of the Judge's statement is he is pointing out the freaking motive.

You missing the point. It doesn't matter what the judge said during the proceedings. The question before the court is whether the Mueller charges against Manafort are within the scope of the investigation....and they obviously are.

Manafort will lose again.