Boycott Israel

[Sixties Fan]

For decades Israel was Morocco's shadowy secret. Business between the two went through intermediaries, often Jewish-Moroccan exiles in Paris and intelligence agents.

Syrian tanks captured by Israel ended up in Morocco. Israelis helped fortify the wall that Morocco built to keep guerrillas out of Western Sahara.

Now, Israeli tourists are flocking in. Morocco expects 200,000 this year, up fourfold since the accord, with ten direct flights a week.

Some Israelis come to rediscover family roots, since 700,000 Israelis are of Moroccan origin.

Trade delegations are piling in, too. "There's such high interest, it's crazy," says an Israeli diplomat.

Israel Aerospace Industries is building two plants to manufacture drones and may even install a missile-defense system.

(full article online)

Israeli firms and tourists are piling into Morocco

A once-furtive friendship has burst into the open

www.economist.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Perhaps the Saudi's see mutually beneficial advantages in teaming with Israel and a bulwark against the Shia aligned pally heretics.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Colonial Allegations
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

(PREFACE) I'm not sure you even understand what you are saying.

boundary/ies

The imaginary lines on the surface of the earth which separate the land territory or maritime zones ( continental shelf and EEZ ) of one State from that of another. Ideally, as a matter of common sense but little more, a land boundary should be easy to identify and diffi cult to cross: ... In relation to land boundaries, there is no corpus of law especially for resolving boundary disputes, and recourse is made to the rules for acquiring title to territory in international law ( see territory, acquisition of ).​

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In relation to maritime territory, special rules have emerged from conventions. For the territorial sea and contiguous zone , in the absence of agreement as to the boundary, a State is not entitled ‘to extend its territorial sea or contiguous zone beyond the median line every point of which is equidistant from the nearest points on the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea …​

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Delimitation of International Boundaries ( 1974 ); Sharma , International Boundary Disputes and International Law ( 1976 ); Brownlie , African Boundaries. A Legal and Diplomatic Encyclopaedia ( 1979 ); Tanja , The Legal Delimitation of International Maritime Boundaries ( 1989 ); Charney and Alexander , International Maritime Boundaries ( 1993 ).​

SOURCE: Parry & Grant encyclopaedic dictionary of international law / John P. Grant and J. Craig Barker.​

-- 3rd ed. Copyright © 2009 by Oxford University Press, Inc. pp 69​

Israeli settlers are a necessary, integral, and active part of the settler colonial project. Without the settlers there would be no Israel. They reside on territory stolen from another people.

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Several times in the past, I have had to re-address this Anti-Israeli • Pro-Palestinian unsubstantiated Claim that the settler program is, under A/RES/15/1514 (Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples) or under the recognition of the Special Committee on Decolonization (AKA: C-24) somehow alters the agreement to ANNEX III Protocol Concerning Civil Affairs • ARTICLE IV Special Provisions concerning Area "C" • which assigned Israel full civil and security control over Area “C".

The unsupported claim made here by our friend P F Tinmore, is reaffirmed (because of this very allegation) every so often when the C-24 Site is searched for anything even remotely pertaining to "Palestine"(see below) in whatever form the territory may be addressed. This search is not only carried out for any connection with any Non-Self-Governing Territory (NSGT) world-wide but search crossed the entirety of the UN Decolonization effort.

I will call your attention to the Middle East North African Region - and - Eastward to the Pacific Rim. There is no NSGT in the entire expanse. Now, if our friend wants to address US Responsibilities like American Samoa or Guam, that is an entirely different story.
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Israel has "say so" territory. Its borders are recognized as de facto borders. It has no legal territory. It has no borders to dispute.

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And this non-sense you spew ("It has no legal territory.") only serves to demonstrate how little you understand of the subject. And please, let us not jump back to the argument that the 1924 Treaty of Lausanne has established any claim to any territory. You cannot use the "Article 30 or the Nationality Section" to replace "Article 16 of the Territorial Section."

See the:

◈ Israeli-Jordanian Treaty (1994) → Article 3 - International Boundary​

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◈ Israeli-Egyptian Treaty of Peace (1974) → Article 2 - The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel...​

Other International Boundary and Demarcation Issues include:

◈ Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement Oslo II (1995)​

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◈ Basic Law: Jerusalem, Capital of Israel​

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◈ Golan Heights Law ​

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◈ Letter dated 12 June 2000 from the Permanent Representative of Lebanon ​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

there is no corpus of law especially for resolving boundary disputes,

There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. Israel does not.

 

[P F Tinmore]

recourse is made to the rules for acquiring title to territory in international law

Which rule did Israel use to acquire its territory? I understand that there are five. Which one? (1948 territory)

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. Israel does not.

What about all the border agreements Israel has signed with neighboring nations?
How many border agreements does "Palestine" have?

 

[P F Tinmore]

when the C-24 Site is searched for anything even remotely pertaining to "Palestine"

Subsequent UN Resolutions state that Palestine is a non self governing territory.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What about all the border agreements Israel has signed with neighboring nations?
How many border agreements does "Palestine" have?

Three. Israel has none.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Three. Israel has none.

Post the three.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Post the three.

Between Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine by Sykes/Picot in 1916. Egypt's international border was set with the Ottoman Empire in 1906. Palestine inherited that border. Article 25 in the Mandate agreement gave Britain the option of dividing Transjordan from Palestine. Britain exercised that option, with agreement by the League of Nations, in 1922.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Between Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine by Sykes/Picot in 1916. Egypt's international border was set with the Ottoman Empire in 1906. Palestine inherited that border. Article 25 in the Mandate agreement gave Britain the option of dividing Transjordan from Palestine. Britain exercised that option, with agreement by the League of Nations, in 1922.

Between Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine by Sykes/Picot in 1916.

Who signed the agreements between those 3 countries that didn't exist? France and the UK?

Egypt's international border was set with the Ottoman Empire in 1906.

Ummmm...the Ottoman Empire went away.

Palestine inherited that border.

Palestine didn't exist in 1906, doesn't exist today, how could a non-existent country inherit borders?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine didn't exist in 1906,

I didn't say it did. You have a reading comprehension problem.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I didn't say it did. You have a reading comprehension problem.

Palestine didn't sign three border agreements? How many did they sign?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Colonial Allegations
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I noticed that you shifted your dialog here. I do not mind, I just want you to know that I noticed.

Which rule did Israel use to acquire its territory? I understand that there are five. Which one? (1948 territory)

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cession The term ‘cession’, clearly derived from the cession of Roman law, is used in international law to denote any transfer of sovereignty over territory by one State to another, and not merely, as in popular speech, a forced transfer. ‘The only form in which a cession can be effected is an agreement normally in the form of a treaty between the ceding and the acquiring state…. The treaty of cession should be followed by actual tradition of the territory, … unless such territory is already occupied by the new owner, as in the case where the cession is the outcome of war and the ceded territory has been during such war in the military occupation of the state to which it is now ceded’:​

In May 1948, there was no treaty with the Government of Palestine. The UK withdrew. The legal entity remaining was not a sovereign state.

In 2012, the UN Office of Legal Affairs stated the:

Do not try to trick the readers into thinking that there was a "Palestine" governed by the Arab Palestinians and maintaining sovereign territory. You simply cannot cherry-pick single words like "country" or "state" and claim the context you wish to establish. You get no credibility with that tactic.

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SOURCE: Parry & Grant encyclopaedic dictionary of international law / John P. Grant and J. Craig Barker.-- 3rd ed. Copyright © 2009 by Oxford University Press, Inc. pp 88
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There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. Israel does not.

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Well, this is the Arab Palestinian "Flim - Flam" ("deception" or "fraud" in the material presented) in an attempt to pass on the mistaken belief, in which no one will fact check, furthering the intentional promotion of misinformation.

(COMMENT)

In the interest of honesty, the boundaries in which I've documented here (in these recent discussions) could be altered given that they are without prejudice and in favor of the Arab Palestinians → should the Israelis concur agree. (However, there is a question as to whether or not the external Arab nations want active and financed terrorist organizations as frontier neighbors.) But remember, from the time the Mandate was adopted and published until its termination, the British High Commissioner has governed Palestine without the cooperation of the Arab Palestinians or the integration of Arab Palestinian representation of the Governing Council. Whereas the Jewish Agency was established at the time the Mandate went into effect → and still exists today.

Whereas, one could argue that the Gaza and Ramallah governments are part of a greater criminal enterprise → and provide direct support to a number of organizations considered by the larger European and Mediterranean nations.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

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Palestine didn't sign three border agreements? How many did they sign?

None of Palestine's neighbors have disputed their borders. There is no reason for any agreements.

 

[P F Tinmore]

‘The only form in which a cession can be effected is an agreement normally in the form of a treaty between the ceding and the acquiring state…

Where is that?

Link?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

None of Palestine's neighbors have disputed their borders. There is no reason for any agreements.

None of Palestine's neighbors have disputed their borders.

No agreements with Palestine?
How many agreements have those neighbors signed with Israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

BDS at the Sydney Festival, with Jennine Khalik and Sara Saleh​

 

[rylah]

There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. Israel does not.

None of Palestine's neighbors have disputed their borders. There is no reason for any agreements.

Depends who you ask.
Some say "Palestine" stretches
all the way from Yemen to Africa...

How much of Arab imperialism is agreeing with neighbors?