Boycott Israel

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Embellished Activism
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Anyone who believes this deserves to be laughed at.

US company, General Mills, Divests from Israel Following Campaign Led by Quaker Organization​

(COMMENT)

The Quaker Oats Company is a direct competitor of General Mills. The BDS Campaign was NOT responsible for the liquidation of the Israeli Holding, but rather end the campaign of one rival against the other.

QUOTE: The allgemeiner • by Shiryn Ghermezian​

Food giant General Mills emphasized on Friday that its decision to sell its stake in a joint operation in Israel was unrelated to the anti-Zionist “Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions” (BDS) campaign that has been urging the company to end its operations in the Jewish state.​

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“We have made clear the global business strategy that drove this decision. Any claims by others taking credit for this decision are false,” the company said in a statement. “We continue to sell our products in Israel and look forward to continuing to serve Israeli consumers with our other brands.”​

This is just another case of the Arab Palestinians → trusting that the readers will not actually do any fact checking. About every year (or so) the Arab Palestinians make these outrageous claims as a means to demonstrate progress of the otherwise Pro-Palestinians and Anti-Jewish campaign. Last year, about this same time, these provers of propaganda were noted as:

Featured panelists included Swarthmore College associate professor and BDS advocate Sa’ed A. Atshan, and Palestinian feminist scholar and activist Yamila Hussein-Shannan, who has claimed that Palestinian men are “forced to parade naked in the streets” by Israeli soldiers and citizens and blamed the oppression of Palestinian women on Israel’s “occupation.” Another featured panelist was Sumaya Awad, who has expressed support for violent protesters in Israel and promoted hatred against the Jewish state, according to Canary Mission.​

This is a real pig in a poke.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Embellished Activism
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Anyone who believes this deserves to be laughed at.


(COMMENT)

The Quaker Oats Company is a direct competitor of General Mills. The BDS Campaign was NOT responsible for the liquidation of the Israeli Holding, but rather end the campaign of one rival against the other.

QUOTE: The allgemeiner • by Shiryn Ghermezian​

Food giant General Mills emphasized on Friday that its decision to sell its stake in a joint operation in Israel was unrelated to the anti-Zionist “Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions” (BDS) campaign that has been urging the company to end its operations in the Jewish state.​

​

“We have made clear the global business strategy that drove this decision. Any claims by others taking credit for this decision are false,” the company said in a statement. “We continue to sell our products in Israel and look forward to continuing to serve Israeli consumers with our other brands.”​

This is just another case of the Arab Palestinians → trusting that the readers will not actually do any fact checking. About every year (or so) the Arab Palestinians make these outrageous claims as a means to demonstrate progress of the otherwise Pro-Palestinians and Anti-Jewish campaign. Last year, about this same time, these provers of propaganda were noted as:

Featured panelists included Swarthmore College associate professor and BDS advocate Sa’ed A. Atshan, and Palestinian feminist scholar and activist Yamila Hussein-Shannan, who has claimed that Palestinian men are “forced to parade naked in the streets” by Israeli soldiers and citizens and blamed the oppression of Palestinian women on Israel’s “occupation.” Another featured panelist was Sumaya Awad, who has expressed support for violent protesters in Israel and promoted hatred against the Jewish state, according to Canary Mission.​

This is a real pig in a poke.

Most Respectfully,
R

Canary Mission.

Of course we can always believe an Israeli propaganda organization.

 

[Hollie]

Canary Mission.

Of course we can always believe an Israeli propaganda organization.

Of course you could always ignore the comments made by a company spokesman.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Of course you could always ignore the comments made by a company spokesman.

Of course you can. He is full of shit.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Embellished Activism
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Canary Mission.

Of course we can always believe an Israeli propaganda organization.

Overview​

(Quote From Canary Mission)​

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Sumaya Awad has expressed support for violent protesters, spread hatred of Israel and is a supporter of the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement.​

Awad was reportedly a “founding member" of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chapter at Williams College (Williams). In 2014, while Awad was a “visiting student" at Columbia University (Columbia), she was also an activist for SJP at Columbia (CSJP).​

It is a wonder that anyone even bothers to listen.

Article 20. International Convention on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR)​

The CCPR is a core Human Rights Instrument:​

​

1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.​

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2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.​

Canary Mission openly sends the mantra that they defy the CCPR - with eyes wide-open. They do NOT mince words. They admit that what they do constitutes advocating violence → prohibited by law.

And then they go to universities and dare to suggest that it is Israel that violates Human Rights.

Similarly, each time the Arab Palestinians openly call for violence against the Israelis, the Arab Palestinians openly violate the Fourth Geneva Convention (GCIV) (Customary and International Humanitarian Law). They are, in a sense, unindited co-conspirators with the Hostile Arab Palestinians

◈ Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offence committed. ​

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◈ Furthermore, internment or imprisonment shall, for such offences, be the only measure adopted for depriving protected persons of liberty. The courts provided for under Article 66 [ Link ] of the present Convention may at their discretion convert a sentence of imprisonment to one of internment for the same period.​

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◈ The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [Link] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.​

​

◈ The death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person unless the attention of the court has been particularly called to the fact that since the accused is not a national of the Occupying Power, he is not bound to it by any duty of allegiance.​

​

◈ In any case, the death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person who was under eighteen years of age at the time of the offence.​

Every time our friend P F Tinmore posts these allegations and then try to justify crimes under the Rome Statutes, ask yourself, who benefits through the action of the Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP)?

Then ask this questions:

◈ In the time since Israel was founded, has the development and expansion of Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters tactics contributed to any significant improvement in the plight of the Arab Palestinian? ​

​

◈ In the time since Israel was founded, has the HoAP come any closer to establishing a self-sustaining and self-governing sovereignty that is able to stand alone? (Have the Arab Palestinians become totally dependent on donor nation contributions?)​

While nearly every nation that has stuck its fingers deserves some portion of the blame (some more than others) to the current situation the lions share of the blame falls to the Arab Palestinians. And it is the Arab Palestinians that have to decide: At what cost is the continuation of the status quo are the Arab Palestinians willing to absorb?

SOURCE: Parlia
​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Embellished Activism
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Overview​

(Quote From Canary Mission)​

​

Sumaya Awad has expressed support for violent protesters, spread hatred of Israel and is a supporter of the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement.​

Awad was reportedly a “founding member" of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chapter at Williams College (Williams). In 2014, while Awad was a “visiting student" at Columbia University (Columbia), she was also an activist for SJP at Columbia (CSJP).​

It is a wonder that anyone even bothers to listen.

Article 20. International Convention on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR)​

The CCPR is a core Human Rights Instrument:​

​

1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.​

​

2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.​

Canary Mission openly sends the mantra that they defy the CCPR - with eyes wide-open. They do NOT mince words. They admit that what they do constitutes advocating violence → prohibited by law.

And then they go to universities and dare to suggest that it is Israel that violates Human Rights.

Similarly, each time the Arab Palestinians openly call for violence against the Israelis, the Arab Palestinians openly violate the Fourth Geneva Convention (GCIV) (Customary and International Humanitarian Law). They are, in a sense, unindited co-conspirators with the Hostile Arab Palestinians

◈ Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offence committed. ​

​

◈ Furthermore, internment or imprisonment shall, for such offences, be the only measure adopted for depriving protected persons of liberty. The courts provided for under Article 66 [ Link ] of the present Convention may at their discretion convert a sentence of imprisonment to one of internment for the same period.​

​

◈ The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [Link] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.​

​

◈ The death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person unless the attention of the court has been particularly called to the fact that since the accused is not a national of the Occupying Power, he is not bound to it by any duty of allegiance.​

​

◈ In any case, the death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person who was under eighteen years of age at the time of the offence.​

Every time our friend P F Tinmore posts these allegations and then try to justify crimes under the Rome Statutes, ask yourself, who benefits through the action of the Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP)?

Then ask this questions:

◈ In the time since Israel was founded, has the development and expansion of Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters tactics contributed to any significant improvement in the plight of the Arab Palestinian? ​

​

◈ In the time since Israel was founded, has the HoAP come any closer to establishing a self-sustaining and self-governing sovereignty that is able to stand alone? (Have the Arab Palestinians become totally dependent on donor nation contributions?)​

While nearly every nation that has stuck its fingers deserves some portion of the blame (some more than others) to the current situation the lions share of the blame falls to the Arab Palestinians. And it is the Arab Palestinians that have to decide: At what cost is the continuation of the status quo are the Arab Palestinians willing to absorb?

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SOURCE: Parlia
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Most Respectfully,
R

You keep implying that the Palestinians are violating international laws.

Perhaps you could give some specific examples. I await your response.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Specific Actions
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You keep implying that the Palestinians are violating international laws.

Perhaps you could give some specific examples. I await your response.

(COMMENT)

• Anti-Israel Protest In London: “F**k the Jews” “Rape their daughters” “Free Palestine”​

• Israeli forces kill two Palestinians in Jenin and one near Bethlehem after a knife attack​

in the occupied West Bank as violence escalates.​

​

• Israeli police and the Shin Bet internal security service Thursday said they had arrested​

a Palestinian alleged ISIS supporter accused of two deadly knife attacks in the past three years.​

​

• Previously, an Israeli couple, Yehuda and Tamar Kaduri, were killed in their Jerusalem​

home on January 13, 2019.​

​

• Isaid was further accused of a knife attack that wounded an Israeli teenager in the same​

city on January 12, 2019.​

​

• Streaks of light are seen as Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile system intercepts rockets​

launched from the Gaza Strip towards Israel, as seen from Ashkelon,​

​

• Move comes after Israeli army accused Hamas of firing three rockets into Israel late ​

on Friday.​

Each of these examples represents a violation of International law; ranging from advocating violence, inciting violence, and attacks against unarmed Israelis. When you talk about GAZA, then you have to keep in mind:

Instrument regarding terrorist bombings​

1997 International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist BombingsPDF​

• Creates a regime of universal jurisdiction over the unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

• Locating Gazan launch sites inside densely.
• Failing to remove civilian from the target areas.

Palestinian Official Dr. Nasser Al-Qaram Extols Martyrdom In Friday Sermon Following IDF Killing Of 3 Fatah Terrorists: Israelis Are The Enemies Of Allah; They Terrorize, Commit Crimes Against Our People​

PA/Fatah: Terror is the "path to victory," Dead terrorists “are our heroes… who illuminate the path for our people… We all need to be like [them],”​

Palestinian TV shows kids singing that Jews are "impure" and "the world's dogs"​

All these incidents, events, and actions break one or more international prohibitions. The question is what action are you arguing as legal? Are you suggesting that advocating for hatred and violence is illegal? Are you suggesting that launching incendiary devices is legal? Are you suggesting that indiscriminate rocket fire is permitted? Are individual attacks directed against occupation forces legal?

What are you claiming as legal?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Specific Actions
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

(COMMENT)

• Anti-Israel Protest In London: “F**k the Jews” “Rape their daughters” “Free Palestine”​

• Israeli forces kill two Palestinians in Jenin and one near Bethlehem after a knife attack​

in the occupied West Bank as violence escalates.​

​

• Israeli police and the Shin Bet internal security service Thursday said they had arrested​

a Palestinian alleged ISIS supporter accused of two deadly knife attacks in the past three years.​

​

• Previously, an Israeli couple, Yehuda and Tamar Kaduri, were killed in their Jerusalem​

home on January 13, 2019.​

​

• Isaid was further accused of a knife attack that wounded an Israeli teenager in the same​

city on January 12, 2019.​

​

• Streaks of light are seen as Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile system intercepts rockets​

launched from the Gaza Strip towards Israel, as seen from Ashkelon,​

​

• Move comes after Israeli army accused Hamas of firing three rockets into Israel late ​

on Friday.​

Each of these examples represents a violation of International law; ranging from advocating violence, inciting violence, and attacks against unarmed Israelis. When you talk about GAZA, then you have to keep in mind:

Instrument regarding terrorist bombings​

1997 International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist BombingsPDF​

• Creates a regime of universal jurisdiction over the unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

• Locating Gazan launch sites inside densely.
• Failing to remove civilian from the target areas.

Palestinian Official Dr. Nasser Al-Qaram Extols Martyrdom In Friday Sermon Following IDF Killing Of 3 Fatah Terrorists: Israelis Are The Enemies Of Allah; They Terrorize, Commit Crimes Against Our People​

PA/Fatah: Terror is the "path to victory," Dead terrorists “are our heroes… who illuminate the path for our people… We all need to be like [them],”​

Palestinian TV shows kids singing that Jews are "impure" and "the world's dogs"​

All these incidents, events, and actions break one or more international prohibitions. The question is what action are you arguing as legal? Are you suggesting that advocating for hatred and violence is illegal? Are you suggesting that launching incendiary devices is legal? Are you suggesting that indiscriminate rocket fire is permitted? Are individual attacks directed against occupation forces legal?

What are you claiming as legal?

Most Respectfully,
R

Are illegal colonial settlers "protected persons" under international law?

Define "into Israel" when Israel has no defined territory.

 

[Hollie]

Are illegal colonial settlers "protected persons" under international law?

Define "into Israel" when Israel has no defined territory.

Those are your usual, nonsensical cut and paste one-liners.

 

[Hollie]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Specific Actions
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Ridiculous!

Are illegal colonial settlers "protected persons" under international law?

Define "into Israel" when Israel has no defined territory.

(COMMENT)

Your assumption is entirely wrong.

When applying Article 68 of the GCIV, the "protected persons" are the Arab Palestinians. Take a deep breath and read it slowly. "Protected persons (Arab Palestinians) who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power (Israelis),"

Israel defines it sovereign territory and maintains it IAW Article 7, Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States (The recognition of a state may be express or tacit.). Israel does have a defined territory.

Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation​

"Every State has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing​

international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international disputes,​

including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States."​

When you say " illegal colonial settlers" I have to ask,​

​

What are the elements of the offense? What International Criminal Code​

are you using to make this accusation?​

​

Under what binding and internationally recognized instrument defines​

a colonial settler from all other settlers."​

​

Does the meaning of the "illegal" tag include the Protocol Concerning​

Civil Affairs • ARTICLE IV Special Provisions concerning Area "C"​

which assigned Israel full civil and security control over Area “C"​

and was agreed to by the Arab Palestinians?​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

When you say " illegal colonial settlers" I have to ask,

Israeli settlers are a necessary, integral, and active part of the settler colonial project. Without the settlers there would be no Israel. They reside on territory stolen from another people.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel defines it sovereign territory and maintains it

Israel has "say so" territory. Its borders are recognized as de facto borders. It has no legal territory. It has no borders to dispute.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]