Brazilian gun laws lead to horrible violence.......

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Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.
 
Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.

You'd think a Catholic-dominated culture would be all wine and roses. :)
 
Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.


Your claim is ridiculous. How is it so many countries with very few guns have low violent crime rates?
 
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Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.


Your claim is ridiculous. How is it so many countries with very few guns have low violemt crime rates?


Maybe because it has nothing to do with the availabilty of guns.
 

Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.
 
Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.

This article is worthless. Where does it compare rates from previous years?
 
Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.


Yes...claims...as compared to the reality of the dead bodies they actually have...the gun grabbers down south are the same as gun grabbers up here....make false claims and lie......and ignore the way their laws have failed.....

Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.

The article is based on Vice T.V.....
 
Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.


Your claim is ridiculous. How is it so many countries with very few guns have low violent crime rates?


And as many if not more with absolute gun control have higher gun murder rates...culture, not guns....ask the Russians....or Puerto Rico.....or all of South America and Mexico....
 
Yes...claims...as compared to the reality of the dead bodies they actually have...the gun grabbers down south are the same as gun grabbers up here....make false claims and lie......and ignore the way their laws have failed.....
If anti-gun loons could not lie, we'd hear nothing from them.
 
Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.


Yes...claims...as compared to the reality of the dead bodies they actually have...the gun grabbers down south are the same as gun grabbers up here....make false claims and lie......and ignore the way their laws have failed.....

Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.

The article is based on Vice T.V.....

Some brazilians believe? That's the proof? Where are the stats?
 
Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.


Your claim is ridiculous. How is it so many countries with very few guns have low violent crime rates?


And as many if not more with absolute gun control have higher gun murder rates...culture, not guns....ask the Russians....or Puerto Rico.....or all of South America and Mexico....

So a bunch of not so stable countries? You must think very little of us if you think those are the countries we are best compared to.
 
Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.


Yes...claims...as compared to the reality of the dead bodies they actually have...the gun grabbers down south are the same as gun grabbers up here....make false claims and lie......and ignore the way their laws have failed.....

Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.

The article is based on Vice T.V.....

Some brazilians believe? That's the proof? Where are the stats?


The stats are in the dead bodies every day....
 
Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.


Your claim is ridiculous. How is it so many countries with very few guns have low violent crime rates?


And as many if not more with absolute gun control have higher gun murder rates...culture, not guns....ask the Russians....or Puerto Rico.....or all of South America and Mexico....

So a bunch of not so stable countries? You must think very little of us if you think those are the countries we are best compared to.


they are countries where honest, law abiding people are not allowed to own guns....and have culture not influenced by feudalism, World War 1 or World War 2....and it shouldn't matter if those countries are not stable...they have gun control....extreme gun control of the kind you gun grabbers can only dream about and they have gun murder rates well above ours....

So if gun laws are so effective at stopping gun murder...why aren't these countries free of gun murder?
 
Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.


Yes...claims...as compared to the reality of the dead bodies they actually have...the gun grabbers down south are the same as gun grabbers up here....make false claims and lie......and ignore the way their laws have failed.....

Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.

The article is based on Vice T.V.....

Some brazilians believe? That's the proof? Where are the stats?


The stats are in the dead bodies every day....

And are there more than before the gun laws? This article has no valuable info. So I guess we have a high homicide rate because we have the most guns?
 
Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.


Your claim is ridiculous. How is it so many countries with very few guns have low violent crime rates?


And as many if not more with absolute gun control have higher gun murder rates...culture, not guns....ask the Russians....or Puerto Rico.....or all of South America and Mexico....

So a bunch of not so stable countries? You must think very little of us if you think those are the countries we are best compared to.


they are countries where honest, law abiding people are not allowed to own guns....and have culture not influenced by feudalism, World War 1 or World War 2....and it shouldn't matter if those countries are not stable...they have gun control....extreme gun control of the kind you gun grabbers can only dream about and they have gun murder rates well above ours....

So if gun laws are so effective at stopping gun murder...why aren't these countries free of gun murder?

And most of Europe and Japan have gun control and very low homicide rates.
 
Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.


Yes...claims...as compared to the reality of the dead bodies they actually have...the gun grabbers down south are the same as gun grabbers up here....make false claims and lie......and ignore the way their laws have failed.....

Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.

The article is based on Vice T.V.....

Some brazilians believe? That's the proof? Where are the stats?


The stats are in the dead bodies every day....

And are there more than before the gun laws? This article has no valuable info. So I guess we have a high homicide rate because we have the most guns?


And again...complain to Vice T.V.......and our crime rate is going down, not up as more and more Americans not only buy and own guns but over 11.1 million now carry guns for self defense......so that meme is wrong.....
 
Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.


Yes...claims...as compared to the reality of the dead bodies they actually have...the gun grabbers down south are the same as gun grabbers up here....make false claims and lie......and ignore the way their laws have failed.....

Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.

The article is based on Vice T.V.....

Some brazilians believe? That's the proof? Where are the stats?


The stats are in the dead bodies every day....

And are there more than before the gun laws? This article has no valuable info. So I guess we have a high homicide rate because we have the most guns?


And again...complain to Vice T.V.......and our crime rate is going down, not up as more and more Americans not only buy and own guns but over 11.1 million now carry guns for self defense......so that meme is wrong.....

You are the one who posted an article with a ridiculous claim and no support for it.
 
Yes...making it harder for law abiding people to get guns leads to increased violence against them....

We Really Must Do Something About America s Gun Culture PJ Tatler


Firearms are responsible for 116 deaths every day in Brazil, according to a new study — a rate of nearly five people every hour. The Map of Violence 2015, which UNESCO published this week in partnership with the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences and the Brazilian government, calculated that gun violence ended a staggering 42,416 lives in 2012 alone, the most recent year with comprehensive data.




Nearly 60 percent of the victims were young people aged between 15 and 29 years of age. Black individuals were found to be 142 percent more likely to be shot and killed than those who are white. The northeastern state of Alagoas — home to Maceió, Brazil’s murder capital — topped the ranking, with 55 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people.



Despite the large death toll, the study claims that the introduction in 2003 of the country’s controversial Disarmament Statute, which restricted gun ownership to those over 25 years of age and introduced security checks and a national firearms register, saved 160,000 lives between 2004 and 2012.



Some Brazilians believe that the statute might actually have helped increase the likelihood of deaths from gun violence. One firearms trader in São Paulo, who spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, said that the statute made owning a gun legally virtually impossible for regular Brazilians. ”The statute improved nothing, and now crime and deaths are up,” he said. “The authorities focused on regulating legal purchases to an absurd extent. It can take up to a year to get a license here.” He argued that the obstacles to ownership pushed people into buying illegal weapons.


So..incredible gun control.....huge gun murder rate.......this is not an anomoly....see Chicago, Detroit and Washington d.c.


Your claim is ridiculous. How is it so many countries with very few guns have low violent crime rates?


And as many if not more with absolute gun control have higher gun murder rates...culture, not guns....ask the Russians....or Puerto Rico.....or all of South America and Mexico....

So a bunch of not so stable countries? You must think very little of us if you think those are the countries we are best compared to.


they are countries where honest, law abiding people are not allowed to own guns....and have culture not influenced by feudalism, World War 1 or World War 2....and it shouldn't matter if those countries are not stable...they have gun control....extreme gun control of the kind you gun grabbers can only dream about and they have gun murder rates well above ours....

So if gun laws are so effective at stopping gun murder...why aren't these countries free of gun murder?

And most of Europe and Japan have gun control and very low homicide rates.


Europe had low murder rates long before they banned guns....studies have shown that....so again, culture, not guns...and European criminals get guns easily when they want them...and they don't have gun stores, and they have far stricter gun control than we do.......

Japan...is a police state....that is how they keep gun crime down....as well as a culture that submits to authority far more easily than any American would...their police can stop and search you whenever they want, for whatever reason they want and you have no right to object, they can also search your home on the same basise, they can hold you till you confess.....and judges don't care about police brutality....

That is how Japan stops gun crime...and yet...they still have gun crime.....
 

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