But, Aren't Nazis and Fascists Really Left-Wingers?

[SniperFire]

Left and Right are not defined as level of pro-government vs anti-government. You can't be calling other people dumb when you don't even know the fucking subject you're talking about.

You're just fabricating yourself stories that does not mesh at all with reality and history in the real world.

You are getting your ass beat. It happens.

LOL

Please... show me any credible source in the realm of political science or research and publications on the political spectrum that actually support your ludicrous claims.

On the contrary, I can provide you with plenty supporting mine... spanning decades.

What 'ludicrous' claim would that be?

That you statists are all rooted in the belief that total government control is for the greater good, and that resistance must be eliminated whenever it challenges your authority?

Got gun rights?


LOL

 

[jasonnfree]

Yeah, it's why they went after all the leftists: lefty socialists and communists and Democrats

The Nazis went after the unions and the intellectuals also. If you read this forum you soon find out who hates unions and college professors and intellectuals.

Totalitarian progressives always eliminate the competition.

Stalin wasn't looking to make friends with his detractors,

And what is the new Lefty rally cry in America? Oh yeah. 'Kill the rich.'

duh.

I haven't heard any progressives say kill the rich yet. Also what about those on the right being against unions? (just like the nazis, and no, I'm not calling you a nazi). Your political spectrum chart. Where did that come from? Seems like your basing your philosophy on this chart and ignoring certain truths about the party on the right. You say Totalitarian progressives always eliminate the competition? Thats a new one on me. Do you have any examples of this? Actually, unregulated capitalism does destroy competition and it's biggest chearleaders are on the right.

 

[Cowman]

You can't back what you say and what you post up.

All you can do is LOL like a fucking idiot, hoping I'll just get bored and go away instead of continuing to press you for being unable to prove your claim.

Figures.

 

[SniperFire]

The Nazis went after the unions and the intellectuals also. If you read this forum you soon find out who hates unions and college professors and intellectuals.

Totalitarian progressives always eliminate the competition.

Stalin wasn't looking to make friends with his detractors,

And what is the new Lefty rally cry in America? Oh yeah. 'Kill the rich.'

duh.

I haven't heard any progressives say kill the rich yet. Also what about those on the right being against unions? (just like the nazis, and no, I'm not calling you a nazi). Your political spectrum chart. Where did that come from? Seems like your basing your philosophy on this chart and ignoring certain truths about the party on the right. You say Totalitarian progressives always eliminate the competition? Thats a new one on me. Do you have any examples of this? Actually, unregulated capitalism does destroy competition and it's biggest chearleaders are on the right.

So you are ignorant then.


Up your game and perhaps I will choose to go past your first sentence in the future.

Perhaps.


My call.


LOL

 

[SniperFire]

You can't back what you say and what you post up.

All you can do is LOL like a fucking idiot, hoping I'll just get bored and go away instead of continuing to press you for being unable to prove your claim.

Figures.

Sure I can.


Refute it. You cannot. :

 

[SniperFire]

See, Leftist assholes,

Is your movement to confiscate guns, ban sugary drinks, silence talk radio, create laws behind closed doors, etc. any LESS Nazi than ..... the Nazis?

 

[Contumacious]

You say "progressive" like it's a bad word. And you seem to know little about early American Progressive idea -- or you've been misinformed.

Progressivism is a euphemism for left wing fascism. They are responsible for the graduated "income" tax, the federal reserve board and FDR's regulatory state.

So , of course, is bad .

.

 

[Cowman]

You can't back what you say and what you post up.

All you can do is LOL like a fucking idiot, hoping I'll just get bored and go away instead of continuing to press you for being unable to prove your claim.

Figures.

Sure I can.


Refute it. You cannot. :

What is that even from? Who backs it?

Can I just create my own goofy ass image too?

First fucking result of a google image search is of this forum, with YOU posting it. Did you create it?

Wait a minute...

Are you this dude?

http://woody.typepad.com/my_weblog/2010/06/understanding-political-left-right.html

So what are this dude's credentials? Why does he visualize the political spectrum with only one axis?

Even this chart, which is certainly much less ridiculous than yours... is incorrect. because Anarchism doesn't lie with one ideology.

If you ever took the political spectrum test, you'll realize that it's a much more realistic portrayal of how the political spectrum should be viewed.

You know... this little gem.

 

[Politico]

Wow you can get all kinds of charts off the internet.

 

[tooAlive]

Anarchism isn't on both sides. It's a polar opposite of socialism, so to call it a "leftist branch" would be absurd.

The only place anarchy makes sense in is on the right; after libertarianism.

If we had fascism and nazism on the right, then anarchy would have to be in the middle; as it is a polar opposite of those two regimes as well. And anarchy wouldn't be able to exist in the middle as it doesn't accurately represent a balance of both left and right ideologies.

The political spectrum is supposed to represent the extremes of each ideology at each side. The right advocates more freedom and less government intervention, so the extreme would obviously be anarchy; which is no government at all. The left believes in more government intervention, more government help, more assistance, ect. The extreme of that would be totalitarianism. Communism, socialism, fascism, and nazism have all been totalitarian. Therefore they all belong on the extreme left.

 

[tooAlive]

If you ever took the political spectrum test, you'll realize that it's a much more realistic portrayal of how the political spectrum should be viewed.

You know... this little gem.

How can you have libertarianism on both the x and y axis?

If that were the case, the Right is incompatible with authoritarianism. Therefore making the upper right quadrant moot; as authoritarianism and libertarianism are polar opposites.

 

[SniperFire]

You can't back what you say and what you post up.

All you can do is LOL like a fucking idiot, hoping I'll just get bored and go away instead of continuing to press you for being unable to prove your claim.

Figures.

Sure I can.


Refute it. You cannot. :

What is that even from? Who backs it?

LOL

As I said, you cannot refute it.

 

[SniperFire]

If you ever took the political spectrum test, you'll realize that it's a much more realistic portrayal of how the political spectrum should be viewed.

You know... this little gem.

How can you have libertarianism on both the x and y axis?

If that were the case, the Right is incompatible with authoritarianism. Therefore making the upper right quadrant moot; as authoritarianism and libertarianism are polar opposites.

He just argued that Hitler was a Libertarian.

Rolling on the floor, laughing my considerable ass off.

 

[tooAlive]

Perhaps these will be easier to understand.

Used on both Forbes and TheObjectiveStandard.com.

An Objective Political Spectrum: 100% Pro-Choice Means 100% Moral Government - Forbes

Political

And this one.

See? No ideologies on this one (Communism, Nazism, ect.) Just actual forms of government.

 

[hazlnut]

How can you have libertarianism on both the x and y axis?

If that were the case, the Right is incompatible with authoritarianism. Therefore making the upper right quadrant moot; as authoritarianism and libertarianism are polar opposites.

YOU ALREADY HAD YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU IN THIS THREAD.
(COURTESY OF ME)

GET THE FUCK OUT.

YOU DUMB TWIT.

 

[tooAlive]

He just argued that Hitler was a Libertarian.

Rolling on the floor, laughing my considerable ass off.

Next time I hear someone on the left saying this, I'll kindly remind them they're quoting Hitler.

 

[SniperFire]

Perhaps these will be easier to understand.

Used on both Forbes and TheObjectiveStandard.com.

An Objective Political Spectrum: 100% Pro-Choice Means 100% Moral Government - Forbes

Political

Excellent.

'The left-right alternative, for Biddle, “is in fact binary,” so “the best approach for advocates of freedom is not to reject the prevalent terminology but to clarify it—by defining the relevant terms.” The conventional left-right spectrum, he says, either fails to define the real alternatives, or defines them in misleading ways – that is, in terms of non-essentials.'

' This spectrum reflects the principle that the proper purpose of government is to protect individual rights, including both civil rights and property rights, by banning the initiation of physical force and using force only to retaliate against those who initiate it. It reflects the fact that the root political alternative is force vs. freedom, or more specifically, a rights-protecting government versus a rights-violating government.'

 

[tooAlive]

How can you have libertarianism on both the x and y axis?

If that were the case, the Right is incompatible with authoritarianism. Therefore making the upper right quadrant moot; as authoritarianism and libertarianism are polar opposites.

YOU ALREADY HAD YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU IN THIS THREAD.
(COURTESY OF ME)

GET THE FUCK OUT.

YOU DUMB TWIT.

Did you forget about this?

Someone, a fringe-right hack, photoshopped a version of this:

REFUTED!

Now you may suck my cock.

LOL.. Did you even bother to check the article you got that chart from??

Freedom Vs. Slavery – The Political Spectrum « America In Chains

They made that chart you posted just to illustrate how WRONG it is!

The Political Spectrum – Left Wing vs. Right Wing is a lie designed to confuse you about what freedom is.

 

[Newby]

YOU ALREADY HAD YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU IN THIS THREAD.
(COURTESY OF ME)

GET THE FUCK OUT.

YOU DUMB TWIT.

You really should quit talking to yourself. Talk about ironic post of the day. This is it.

 

[Newby]

Perhaps these will be easier to understand.

Used on both Forbes and TheObjectiveStandard.com.

An Objective Political Spectrum: 100% Pro-Choice Means 100% Moral Government - Forbes

Political

And this one.

See? No ideologies on this one (Communism, Nazism, ect.) Just actual forms of government.

Yes, this represent reality, great find!