Can Obamacare be Fixed?

[Spoonman]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

 

[JimBowie1958]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

Exactly right. But it didn't even do that much right.

College Grad Says Obamacare ?Has Raped My Future? In Viral Letter « CBS DC

 

[JimBowie1958]

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[JimBowie1958]

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[Spoonman]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

Exactly right. But it didn't even do that much right.

College Grad Says Obamacare ?Has Raped My Future? In Viral Letter « CBS DC

the sad part is the element of society that is doing nothing, not working, not contributing to society in anyway, are already sponging off the system with welfare, food stamps, housing, obamphones, will get full free coverage. but the lowincome worker pulling two jobs to try to make ends meet will get a meager subsity and face a high deductible

 

[PMZ]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

How can the government fix our private corporate health care non-system? The only leverage that they have is Medicare and I think that the cost pressure from that is pretty much maxed out.

 

[PMZ]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

It designed to do many things.

Providing an alternate for the poor to get their own coverage rather than using emergency rooms.

Mandatory health insurance for everyone.

Shut down insurance problems like pre-existing conditions.

Keep young adults on their parents policies longer.

Exchanges to promote cost/coverage shopping more transparently.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

It designed to do many things.

Providing an alternate for the poor to get their own coverage rather than using emergency rooms.

Mandatory health insurance for everyone.

Shut down insurance problems like pre-existing conditions.

Keep young adults on their parents policies longer.

Exchanges to promote cost/coverage shopping more transparently.

It is intended to do many things, it is designed to not work.

 

[PMZ]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

Exactly right. But it didn't even do that much right.

College Grad Says Obamacare ?Has Raped My Future? In Viral Letter « CBS DC

the sad part is the element of society that is doing nothing, not working, not contributing to society in anyway, are already sponging off the system with welfare, food stamps, housing, obamphones, will get full free coverage. but the lowincome worker pulling two jobs to try to make ends meet will get a meager subsity and face a high deductible

Criminals cost us billions. They are part of every segment of society. We spend billions trying to catch and prosecute them. Welfare cheats are just a minor subset of all criminals.

 

[PMZ]

Lots of ignorance about Obamacare from GOP propaganda.

 

[Spoonman]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

It designed to do many things.

Providing an alternate for the poor to get their own coverage rather than using emergency rooms.

Mandatory health insurance for everyone.

Shut down insurance problems like pre-existing conditions.

Keep young adults on their parents policies longer.

Exchanges to promote cost/coverage shopping more transparently.

so like i was saying, its a giant entitlement program

 

[Bern80]

Lots of ignorance about Obamacare from GOP propaganda.

Yeah, you're the one to talking about ignorance. The only one ignorant of anything here is you. Ignorant of basic economics just like our President. You haven't even attempted to debunk anything I've said. Naturally because you can't. You can't deny the insurance premiums of an aweful lot of people are going to go up. You can't deny an insurance based solution that can't charge on the basis of risk has zero chance of bringing costs down. You can't deny taxing medical devices is going to get passed on to conusmers. You can't deny Obama lied about people being able to keep their doctors and plans.

 

[Spoonman]

Exactly right. But it didn't even do that much right.

College Grad Says Obamacare ?Has Raped My Future? In Viral Letter « CBS DC

the sad part is the element of society that is doing nothing, not working, not contributing to society in anyway, are already sponging off the system with welfare, food stamps, housing, obamphones, will get full free coverage. but the lowincome worker pulling two jobs to try to make ends meet will get a meager subsity and face a high deductible

Criminals cost us billions. They are part of every segment of society. We spend billions trying to catch and prosecute them. Welfare cheats are just a minor subset of all criminals.

they wouldn't cost much at all if i was running things. and why do you use another one of your failed liberal policies to try to justify one of your new failed liberal policies

 

[Bern80]

the sad part is the element of society that is doing nothing, not working, not contributing to society in anyway, are already sponging off the system with welfare, food stamps, housing, obamphones, will get full free coverage. but the lowincome worker pulling two jobs to try to make ends meet will get a meager subsity and face a high deductible

Criminals cost us billions. They are part of every segment of society. We spend billions trying to catch and prosecute them. Welfare cheats are just a minor subset of all criminals.

they wouldn't cost much at all if i was running things. and why do you use another one of your failed liberal policies to try to justify one of your new failed liberal policies

Simple. Because I think as someone said earlier, if said liberal, government intervention policy fails, it just means government didn't intervene enough.

 

[PMZ]

here is the problem with obamacare. it was designed to do one thing. and that was provide healthcare to the poor. ok, a novel idea, with good intentions. but it wasn't healthcare reform. and we need to separate the two issues that exist. healthcare is borken. even for people who have it and can afford it. that has to be fixed first. you can't just give a broken system with all its issues and unacceptable costs to those who don't have it and expect those who have it to pay for it.

obamacare is nothing more than a massive entitlement program consuming 1/6th of the GDP. it is not affordable, it is not sustainable. it doesn't address reforming the issues within our current healtcare system at all.

It designed to do many things.

Providing an alternate for the poor to get their own coverage rather than using emergency rooms.

Mandatory health insurance for everyone.

Shut down insurance problems like pre-existing conditions.

Keep young adults on their parents policies longer.

Exchanges to promote cost/coverage shopping more transparently.

so like i was saying, its a giant entitlement program

You mean like the Bushman's wealth redistribution tax cuts?

If we are so entitlement minded, how come we have one of the most skewed wealth distributions towards the wealthy on the earth?

 

[PMZ]

Lots of ignorance about Obamacare from GOP propaganda.

Yeah, you're the one to talking about ignorance. The only one ignorant of anything here is you. Ignorant of basic economics just like our President. You haven't even attempted to debunk anything I've said. Naturally because you can't. You can't deny the insurance premiums of an aweful lot of people are going to go up. You can't deny an insurance based solution that can't charge on the basis of risk has zero chance of bringing costs down. You can't deny taxing medical devices is going to get passed on to conusmers. You can't deny Obama lied about people being able to keep their doctors and plans.

You can't deny that treating the poor using appropriate health care rather than emergency services will save lots of money.

Nor that a healthier population will be great for business.

Nor that better management of contagious diseases because everyone has access to health will be a cost saver.

You seem to want to ignore that we are paying 2X the rest of the world for mediocre health care. And you seem to see no room for improvement.

Bizarre.

 

[PMZ]

the sad part is the element of society that is doing nothing, not working, not contributing to society in anyway, are already sponging off the system with welfare, food stamps, housing, obamphones, will get full free coverage. but the lowincome worker pulling two jobs to try to make ends meet will get a meager subsity and face a high deductible

Criminals cost us billions. They are part of every segment of society. We spend billions trying to catch and prosecute them. Welfare cheats are just a minor subset of all criminals.

they wouldn't cost much at all if i was running things. and why do you use another one of your failed liberal policies to try to justify one of your new failed liberal policies

So, with smaller government we'd have better law enforcement? Sounds like the 1984 police state.

I think that your going to have a hard time selling what you apparently fell for. That crime is a recent invention by liberals.

 

[PMZ]

Criminals cost us billions. They are part of every segment of society. We spend billions trying to catch and prosecute them. Welfare cheats are just a minor subset of all criminals.

they wouldn't cost much at all if i was running things. and why do you use another one of your failed liberal policies to try to justify one of your new failed liberal policies

Simple. Because I think as someone said earlier, if said liberal, government intervention policy fails, it just means government didn't intervene enough.

That sounds like the conservative mantra. If doing nothing doesn't solve problems, try doing less.

 

[PMZ]

Lots of ignorance about Obamacare from GOP propaganda.

Yeah, you're the one to talking about ignorance. The only one ignorant of anything here is you. Ignorant of basic economics just like our President. You haven't even attempted to debunk anything I've said. Naturally because you can't. You can't deny the insurance premiums of an aweful lot of people are going to go up. You can't deny an insurance based solution that can't charge on the basis of risk has zero chance of bringing costs down. You can't deny taxing medical devices is going to get passed on to conusmers. You can't deny Obama lied about people being able to keep their doctors and plans.

One other thing. What in the law requires people to change health care insurance plans?

 

[Bern80]

It designed to do many things.

Providing an alternate for the poor to get their own coverage rather than using emergency rooms.

Mandatory health insurance for everyone.

Shut down insurance problems like pre-existing conditions.

Keep young adults on their parents policies longer.

Exchanges to promote cost/coverage shopping more transparently.

so like i was saying, its a giant entitlement program

You mean like the Bushman's wealth redistribution tax cuts?

If we are so entitlement minded, how come we have one of the most skewed wealth distributions towards the wealthy on the earth?

You really do get dumber by the post. How exactly do tax cuts for EVERYONE become wealth redistribution?