Zone1 Islam- Arab Imperialism

[rylah]

Islam as a colonial-imperialist force​

Tons of blood and ink spilled,
and entire new academic fields invented,
as part of the ideological discourse between Islam and the West.

The 'post-colonial' discourse though now part of the
daily Islamic missionary gaslighting, is apparently
to evade any discussion of Arab imperialism and
colonization of several continents, with likely
history of mass-slavery far worse than
anything by 'the West' altogether.

They sell Islam as a way to go "post-colonial"
but the ultimate goal is Arab imperialism.

When backed with illiteracy as an ideal.
The proof of Quran's divine source?
"it's in the beauty of it's Arabic..."
and the result is 20% illiteracy.

That is Arab imperialism.

ELDER: Why don't they teach about the Arab-Muslim slave trade?

As for America’s annual Black History Month, actor Morgan Freeman spoke for many during this 2005 exchange with CBS’s Mike Wallace on “60 Minutes”:

torontosun.com

 

[The Irish Ram]

This is Obama at work...

 

[Uranus]

I suppose it requires skill to use so many words while saying so little.

 

[surada]

Islam as a colonial-imperialist force​

Tons of blood and ink spilled,
and entire new academic fields invented,
as part of the ideological discourse between Islam and the West.

The 'post-colonial' discourse though now part of the
daily Islamic missionary gaslighting, is apparently
to evade any discussion of Arab imperialism and
colonization of several continents, with likely
history of mass-slavery far worse than
anything by 'the West' altogether.

They sell Islam as a way to go "post-colonial"
but the ultimate goal is Arab imperialism.

When backed with illiteracy as an ideal.
The proof of Quran's divine source?
"it's in the beauty of it's Arabic..."
and the result is 20% illiteracy.

That is Arab imperialism.

ELDER: Why don't they teach about the Arab-Muslim slave trade?

As for America’s annual Black History Month, actor Morgan Freeman spoke for many during this 2005 exchange with CBS’s Mike Wallace on “60 Minutes”:

torontosun.com

Why is Israel so eager to go into the Arab countries?

 

[rylah]

I suppose it requires skill to use so many words while saying so little.

Are you more concerned with my writing style,
than say, 20% illiteracy in the Arab world?

Blame that on "Western imperialism"
or following an illiterate as the
ideal of Arab imperialism?

A Note on Arabic Literacy and Translation

Discover the impact of illiteracy and translation limitations in the Arab world. Learn how increasing access to education and literature can help.

www.altalang.com

 

[rylah]

Why is Israel so eager to go into the Arab countries?

Israel is the only country preventing
exclusive Islamist domination over
the entire Middle East.

By 'go', do you mean
kicking Islamist ass,
business, or both?

 

[Stryder50]

Why is Israel so eager to go into the Arab countries?

Israel is interested in preserving itself and the boundaries the Jews had when they got started in that land about 2500 years ago.

Islam/Arabs are about recapturing the lands of Israel, which they stole from Orthodox Christianity about 1400 years ago. They do not want a "two state" solution, and are an all or nothing agenda which has their goal the elimination of the state of Israel and it's Jewish occupants.

 

[Stryder50]

Islam as a colonial-imperialist force​

Tons of blood and ink spilled,
and entire new academic fields invented,
as part of the ideological discourse between Islam and the West.

The 'post-colonial' discourse though now part of the
daily Islamic missionary gaslighting, is apparently
to evade any discussion of Arab imperialism and
colonization of several continents, with likely
history of mass-slavery far worse than
anything by 'the West' altogether.

They sell Islam as a way to go "post-colonial"
but the ultimate goal is Arab imperialism.

When backed with illiteracy as an ideal.
The proof of Quran's divine source?
"it's in the beauty of it's Arabic..."
and the result is 20% illiteracy.

That is Arab imperialism.

ELDER: Why don't they teach about the Arab-Muslim slave trade?

As for America’s annual Black History Month, actor Morgan Freeman spoke for many during this 2005 exchange with CBS’s Mike Wallace on “60 Minutes”:

torontosun.com

Actually Islam is even more than that.
In the Hadith, Mohammad says to effect:
"I've been commanded to fight all mankind until all humanity has embraced Islam and become Muslim (living by Sharia).

This is not an agenda of compromise, or "live and let live".
It is, in short, a prescription for perpetual warfare, when the resources and times allow; when they don't, wait and build up for the next opportunity.

This plan has only three possible paths of resolution;

1) Islam eventual prevails and the entire of human kind, the whole of the planet has been converted and under Muslim rule. All humans either Muslim, or tax paying second class allowed by related but subordinate religions of the Book; or are slaves of Muslim owners.

2) Islam is defeated and becomes a dead religion with few or no believers.

3) Somehow the texts and precepts, the scriptures and dogma are changed, have a "Reformation" of sorts, that invalidates the global conquest and conversion agenda, and becomes more "ecumenical" in allowing other religions and atheists exist.

A footnote here. Per Islamic dogma/scripture, their Paradise(Heaven) is made of several layers or levels. The lowest one is obtained by the "peaceful Muslim whom lives by the five principles, but doesn't engage in Jihad - Holy War. The higher levels (getting out of the basement of Paradise), with increasing luxuries and rewards, can only be attained by physical Jihad ~Holy War of conquest and conversion of the infidels. The more killing, destruction, conquest, looting, enslaving, converting a Holy Warrior does, the higher their placement and rewards in Paradise.

Islam remains a disturbing and hostile factor in the future for humanity and the Earth. In some ways, finding the alterations, conversions, adjusments, whatevers to make it really peaceful and compatible with everyone else on this planet may be our real and largest challenge going forward.

P.S. - Another key factor to consider. Per Islamic scripture/dogma, Allah told Mohammad that the revelations, that would become text of the Koran/Quran are "His" final words to mankind(Humankind) and are to remain unchanged and unaltered until the 'end of time'. There will be no "reformation", no later prophet with an update or revision, there is no alternate interpretation other than what is literally said. This makes #3) above a bit problematic. Basically might require 'Allah' to show up and do the changes/revisions/updates/whatever ...

 

[Uranus]

Are you more concerned with my writing style,
than say, 20% illiteracy in the Arab world?

Blame that on "Western imperialism"
or following an illiterate as the
ideal of Arab imperialism?

A Note on Arabic Literacy and Translation

Discover the impact of illiteracy and translation limitations in the Arab world. Learn how increasing access to education and literature can help.

www.altalang.com

Don't confuse style with content. Your style is dull — you don't really believe in what you say, you just repeat what you hear or read and it can be heard through your writing.

I'm not any more concerned about the illiteracy of Muslims than I am about the next flood.

 

[surada]

Actually Islam is even more than that.
In the Hadith, Mohammad says to effect:
"I've been commanded to fight all mankind until all humanity has embraced Islam and become Muslim (living by Sharia).

This is not an agenda of compromise, or "live and let live".
It is, in short, a prescription for perpetual warfare, when the resources and times allow; when they don't, wait and build up for the next opportunity.

This plan has only three possible paths of resolution;

1) Islam eventual prevails and the entire of human kind, the whole of the planet has been converted and under Muslim rule. All humans either Muslim, or tax paying second class allowed by related but subordinate religions of the Book; or are slaves of Muslim owners.

2) Islam is defeated and becomes a dead religion with few or no believers.

3) Somehow the texts and precepts, the scriptures and dogma are changed, have a "Reformation" of sorts, that invalidates the global conquest and conversion agenda, and becomes more "ecumenical" in allowing other religions and atheists exist.

A footnote here. Per Islamic dogma/scripture, their Paradise(Heaven) is made of several layers or levels. The lowest one is obtained by the "peaceful Muslim whom lives by the five principles, but doesn't engage in Jihad - Holy War. The higher levels (getting out of the basement of Paradise), with increasing luxuries and rewards, can only be attained by physical Jihad ~Holy War of conquest and conversion of the infidels. The more killing, destruction, conquest, looting, enslaving, converting a Holy Warrior does, the higher their placement and rewards in Paradise.

Islam remains a disturbing and hostile factor in the future for humanity and the Earth. In some ways, finding the alterations, conversions, adjusments, whatevers to make it really peaceful and compatible with everyone else on this planet may be our real and largest challenge going forward.

P.S. - Another key factor to consider. Per Islamic scripture/dogma, Allah told Mohammad that the revelations, that would become text of the Koran/Quran are "His" final words to mankind(Humankind) and are to remain unchanged and unaltered until the 'end of time'. There will be no "reformation", no later prophet with an update or revision, there is no alternate interpretation other than what is literally said. This makes #3) above a bit problematic. Basically might require 'Allah' to show up and do the changes/revisions/updates/whatever ...

Most Hadiths come from Persia 250 years after Muhammad's death.

 

[surada]

Israel is interested in preserving itself and the boundaries the Jews had when they got started in that land about 2500 years ago.

Islam/Arabs are about recapturing the lands of Israel, which they stole from Orthodox Christianity about 1400 years ago. They do not want a "two state" solution, and are an all or nothing agenda which has their goal the elimination of the state of Israel and it's Jewish occupants.

A Palestinian Christian Cry for Reconciliation

In a time when many conflate Palestinians with Muslims, one rarely hears the voice of the indigenous Palestinian Christian community. One such voice is that of Naim Stifan Ateek, a retired Anglican minister who is a Palestinian citizen of Israel and...

www.christiancentury.org

 

[Uranus]

Most Hadiths come from Persia 250 years after Muhammad's death.

Most of them come from the city of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), Madeenah. Some collections were written in persia. That's where the capital of the Islamic state was and therefore a large amount of Islamic scholars also resided there.

 

[surada]

Actually Islam is even more than that.
In the Hadith, Mohammad says to effect:
"I've been commanded to fight all mankind until all humanity has embraced Islam and become Muslim (living by Sharia).

This is not an agenda of compromise, or "live and let live".
It is, in short, a prescription for perpetual warfare, when the resources and times allow; when they don't, wait and build up for the next opportunity.

This plan has only three possible paths of resolution;

1) Islam eventual prevails and the entire of human kind, the whole of the planet has been converted and under Muslim rule. All humans either Muslim, or tax paying second class allowed by related but subordinate religions of the Book; or are slaves of Muslim owners.

2) Islam is defeated and becomes a dead religion with few or no believers.

3) Somehow the texts and precepts, the scriptures and dogma are changed, have a "Reformation" of sorts, that invalidates the global conquest and conversion agenda, and becomes more "ecumenical" in allowing other religions and atheists exist.

A footnote here. Per Islamic dogma/scripture, their Paradise(Heaven) is made of several layers or levels. The lowest one is obtained by the "peaceful Muslim whom lives by the five principles, but doesn't engage in Jihad - Holy War. The higher levels (getting out of the basement of Paradise), with increasing luxuries and rewards, can only be attained by physical Jihad ~Holy War of conquest and conversion of the infidels. The more killing, destruction, conquest, looting, enslaving, converting a Holy Warrior does, the higher their placement and rewards in Paradise.

Islam remains a disturbing and hostile factor in the future for humanity and the Earth. In some ways, finding the alterations, conversions, adjusments, whatevers to make it really peaceful and compatible with everyone else on this planet may be our real and largest challenge going forward.

P.S. - Another key factor to consider. Per Islamic scripture/dogma, Allah told Mohammad that the revelations, that would become text of the Koran/Quran are "His" final words to mankind(Humankind) and are to remain unchanged and unaltered until the 'end of time'. There will be no "reformation", no later prophet with an update or revision, there is no alternate interpretation other than what is literally said. This makes #3) above a bit problematic. Basically might require 'Allah' to show up and do the changes/revisions/updates/whatever ...

Some scholars have concluded that a lot of what passes for Islam is really tribal traditions.

Have you ever lived in a Muslim country? They are really quite kind and hospitable. They usually overlook the gaffes westerners make. I've always liked them.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Why is Israel so eager to go into the Arab countries?

Israel isn't the subject here is it Margo? What is wrong with you?

 

[Stryder50]

Most Hadiths come from Persia 250 years after Muhammad's death.

Hadith (Traditions of the prophet)​

Main article: List of hadith collections

Hadīth are sayings, acts or tacit approvals ascribed to the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
...

List of Islamic texts - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Are your presenting ignorance or disinformation/deception (taqiyya)?

Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam - TheReligionofPeace​

 

[surada]

Hadith (Traditions of the prophet)​

Main article: List of hadith collections

Hadīth are sayings, acts or tacit approvals ascribed to the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
...

List of Islamic texts - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Are your presenting ignorance or disinformation/deception (taqiyya)?

Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam - TheReligionofPeace​

Taqiyya is one of those words that Americans throw around without knowing much.

 

[Stryder50]

Some scholars have concluded that a lot of what passes for Islam is really tribal traditions.

Have you ever lived in a Muslim country? They are really quite kind and hospitable. They usually overlook the gaffes westerners make. I've always liked them.

Well duh! Mohammad was seeking to unite the Arab tribes with a single religion, such as he saw with the Byzantine/Orthodox Christians and the "unity" their religion supplied. Hence his "meditation" efforts to receive enlightenment via Allah's messenger.

One of those tribal traditions that continues to this day is the prevalence of pederasty.

It is fortunate for the World that about 95+% of Muslims choose not to fully follow the injunctions of Islam to engage in Jihad. Though most do indirectly support such with their "tithes" that fund it. These "non-combatants" are considered apostates by the Jihadis and hence a frequent target for attacks, etc.

The nature of most humans is to be non-violet, so to be expected that most Muslims would be kind and hospitable, as would be most Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.

 

[Stryder50]

Taqiyya is one of those words that Americans throw around without knowing much.

That same disinformation spiel is pitched for Jihad.
The link I provided does a fair job of explaining what taqiyya is and how it is used.

 

[Friends]

Why is Israel so eager to go into the Arab countries?

Israel wants to convince Arab countries that they have more to gain by cooperating with Israel than by financing Palestinian terrorist groups. I wish Israel the best.

 

[surada]

Israel wants to convince Arab countries that they have more to gain by cooperating with Israel than by financing Palestinian terrorist groups. I wish Israel the best.

That's not the reason. In 2002 the Saudi initiative offer to guarantee their security as well as trade and diplomatic relations.