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Said1 said:Didn't someone mention something about wasted seed in another thread somewhere?
-=d=- said:in the bible, that verse was used to show a guy's disobediance. He was supposed to 'lay' with a chick to knock her up...instead he 'pulled out'...something [/Qoute]
That's the one I'm talking about, and that's how I understood it too. If I remember correctly, it's used by catholics to discourage masturbation.
gop_jeff said:As I understand it, masturbation in and of itself is not a sin. However, about 99.999999% of masturbation involves some kind of lust, pornography, fantasizing, etc., which is a sin. Therefore, if one is masturbating while doing one of these things, he would be sinning. And if someone is masturbating without doing one of those things, he is obviously a Zen master!![]()
-=d=- said:Thinking about one's wife? is that okay? What about as relief for "blue balls"?![]()
-=d=- said:Thinking about one's wife? is that okay? What about as relief for "blue balls"?![]()
-=d=- said:Not MY wife...she's a 'good girl'...
Jeff - do you think it's possible to lust after one's wife? Lust as in sinful-lust?
gop_jeff said:As I understand it, masturbation in and of itself is not a sin. However, about 99.999999% of masturbation involves some kind of lust, pornography, fantasizing, etc., which is a sin. Therefore, if one is masturbating while doing one of these things, he would be sinning. And if someone is masturbating without doing one of those things, he is obviously a Zen master!![]()
-Cp said:If you have a wife, can't she "help you out" w/ that?![]()
Joz said:That's what I've always said. There are MANY ways in which a couple can enjoy each other. But too, they both have to be willing participants. We were discussing something like this not long ago, I believe, in Chat.
Sex with a partner is a giving & getting proposition, which is why it was designed the way it was. Masturbation is a totally selfish act. Tho' I do think there is a place for it. Indulged solely will have serious repercussions.
-=d=- said:In my book willing = unconscious...I usually can just sorta swoop in, like a ninja, and be out before she notices.
:-D