Climate crisis made deadly German floods ‘up to nine times more likely’ - The Guardian

[jc456]

A couple of hundred years ago those tornadoes would have gone through and wouldn't have affected too many humans, except for some Indians. They wouldn't have reported it because they didn't have a written language.

It is a big deal now because the population of the US is 330,000,000 and any adverse weather event it going to cause significant damage.

Exactly, did I say Exactly? Exactly

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

A couple of hundred years ago those tornadoes would have gone through and wouldn't have affected too many humans, except for some Indians. They wouldn't have reported it because they didn't have a written language.

It is a big deal now because the population of the US is 330,000,000 and any adverse weather event it going to cause significant damage.

Go look at my post about Xenia Ohio in 1974.

 

[Old Rocks]

No. Actually you are simply trolling the USMB forum. You link to the Guardian, a well known fake news organization that was identified as a fucking anti-USA KGB disinformation outlet decades ago. Way back in the 1980s.

Look, dumb fuck, the KGB, a la Putin, owned the President of the United States from 2017 to 2021. They had no need of The Guardian. Now they have people like you supporting what they want to see in the US.

 

[Old Rocks]

Our fires are due to ignorant policies on forest management. For YEARS we stopped all small fires that would have cleared out brush and dead limbs and FAILED to police the debris ourselves. Now EVERY fire is major due to the piss poor prior management.

Dann, another really stupid asshole chiming in with that ignorant shit. The Forest never had money to do forest management. Every time an amount was put into the budget for that, it was used in fighting fires. Not only that, it does not matter how clear the understory is if you have a 50+ mph wind and a dry lightning storm.

 

[Old Rocks]

But you can take a lemming, such as yourself, and convince them to jump off a cliff.

DURRRR

Given the dumb shit you have posted over the years, you are kind of silly calling anyone else a lemming. When are we going to see that cooling? You have been posting about it for over 10 years now, and it is still rapidly warming.

 

[Old Rocks]

As we are in the latter part of the current ice age, scientists predict a further 5,000 years + for all the ice to melt. The earth has had 5 ice ages, but even in Ordovician times, glacial evidence still took place in co2 levels of up to 8,000ppm.

When all ice melts, see levels will be approx 200 metres higher than today. But it didn't stop Obama buying an umpteen million dollar mansion beside the sea.

And as parts of the Netherlands is reclaimed sea bed, wasn't the wisest of decisions. We humans merely rent a place on the planet and mother nature will reclaim what she wants to reclaim, whether people think changing their car will help and/or shooting farting livestock.

Last week, another study headed by Seth Young further examined this period by extracting sediment cores from Estonia and Anticosti Island, Canada (Young 2010). The cores were used to construct a sequence of carbon-13 levels from rocks formed during the Ordovician. This was used as a proxy for atmospheric CO2 levels, at a much higher resolution than previous data. What they found was consistent with the strontium results in Young 2009 - CO2 levels dropped at the same time that sea surface temperatures dropped and ice sheets expanded. As the ice sheets grew to cover the continent, rock weathering decreased. This led to an increase in atmospheric CO2 which caused global warming and a retreat of the glaciers.

Thus arguments that Ordovician glaciation disproves the warming effect of CO2 are groundless. On the contrary, the CO2 record over the late Ordovician is entirely consistent with the notion that CO2 is a strong driver of climate.

CO2 levels during the late Ordovician

One argument used against the warming effect of carbon dioxide is that millions of years ago, CO2 levels were higher during periods where large glaciers formed over the Earth's poles. This argument fails to take into account that solar output was also lower during these periods. The combined...

skepticalscience.com

 

[Old Rocks]

As we are in the latter part of the current ice age, scientists predict a further 5,000 years + for all the ice to melt. The earth has had 5 ice ages, but even in Ordovician times, glacial evidence still took place in co2 levels of up to 8,000ppm.

When all ice melts, see levels will be approx 200 metres higher than today. But it didn't stop Obama buying an umpteen million dollar mansion beside the sea.

And as parts of the Netherlands is reclaimed sea bed, wasn't the wisest of decisions. We humans merely rent a place on the planet and mother nature will reclaim what she wants to reclaim, whether people think changing their car will help and/or shooting farting livestock.

Low solar levels during Ordovician Period​ Link to this page What the science says...​ During the Ordovician, solar output was 4% lower than current levels, and there was a large continent over the South Pole. Consequently, CO2 levels at around 1,000 to 2,300 ppm were actually low enough to promote glaciation in the southern continent of Gondwana. Ample geological and geochemical evidence points to strong weathering in parallel with the cooling of the Ordovician climate. Since rock weathering reduces atmospheric CO2, this again reinforces the scientific fact that CO2 is a strong driver of climate. Low solar levels during Ordovician Period <p>During the Ordovician, solar output was much lower than current levels. Consequently, CO2 levels only needed to fall below 3000 parts per million for glaciation to be possible. The latest CO2 data calculated from sediment cores show that CO2 levels fell sharply during the late Ordovician due... skepticalscience.com

 

[westwall]

Look, dumb fuck, the KGB, a la Putin, owned the President of the United States from 2017 to 2021. They had no need of The Guardian. Now they have people like you supporting what they want to see in the US.

Pootin owned the shrilary. And hunter xiden.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Pootin owned the shrilary. And hunter xiden.

And Bathhouse Barry was all flexible for Putin.

 

[skookerasbil]

Congratulations! You guys finally discovered fire ...

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[jc456]

Given the dumb shit you have posted over the years, you are kind of silly calling anyone else a lemming. When are we going to see that cooling? You have been posting about it for over 10 years now, and it is still rapidly warming.

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still waiting on the prediction that has come true. Got any?

 

[skookerasbil]

Dann, another really stupid asshole chiming in with that ignorant shit. The Forest never had money to do forest management. Every time an amount was put into the budget for that, it was used in fighting fires. Not only that, it does not matter how clear the understory is if you have a 50+ mph wind and a dry lightning storm.

What a sucker.

Here on Long Island, we have a massive pine barren. Right on the ocean. High winds ALL THE TIME. One brush fire about 25 years ago.

I mean, c'mon now.......nobody cares about the California fires. Everybody except the suckers know why.

Dude......you are always wrong.......invariably. On all this stuff. There are 25,000 or so members in here.......you have about 4 people who concur with you! . Nobody comes in here because they dont want to look like wankers.

 

[westwall]

What a sucker.

Here on Long Island, we have a massive pine barren. Right on the ocean. High winds ALL THE TIME. One brush fire about 25 years ago.

I mean, c'mon now.......nobody cares about the California fires. Everybody except the suckers know why.

Dude......you are always wrong.......invariably. On all this stuff. There are 25,000 or so members in here.......you have about 4 people who concur with you! . Nobody comes in here because they dont want to look like wankers.

Two of the asshats who agree with him are his sock puppets.

 

[skookerasbil]

still waiting on the prediction that has come true. Got any?

JC.....Ive been in here for 11 years. Not single prediction by Old Rocks has come to pass. And as the years go by.....he doubles down

Take a gander at the threads he generates........all of them last we week or two tops. Meanwhile, our thread that is always on Page 1 has 7,000 replies.........8 years running........and about a billion "views"

I used to be in here every day for years..........now Im bored the past two to three years. Constant winning makes one disinterested.

 

[Captain Caveman]

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Low solar levels during Ordovician Period​ Link to this page What the science says...​ During the Ordovician, solar output was 4% lower than current levels, and there was a large continent over the South Pole. Consequently, CO2 levels at around 1,000 to 2,300 ppm were actually low enough to promote glaciation in the southern continent of Gondwana. Ample geological and geochemical evidence points to strong weathering in parallel with the cooling of the Ordovician climate. Since rock weathering reduces atmospheric CO2, this again reinforces the scientific fact that CO2 is a strong driver of climate. Low solar levels during Ordovician Period <p>During the Ordovician, solar output was much lower than current levels. Consequently, CO2 levels only needed to fall below 3000 parts per million for glaciation to be possible. The latest CO2 data calculated from sediment cores show that CO2 levels fell sharply during the late Ordovician due... skepticalscience.com

Co2 does not drive the earth's climate. As the earth warms and cools from the complexities of solar and geological and climate processes on earth, the levels of co2 follows.

If you believe the climate rhetoric and feel you're being honourable by not putting that extra log on the fire, them I'm pleased for you. But count me out, I'm not into pseudo moralistic stances.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Down here in Florida, the Lame Stream Media was talking about a "possible" high activity of hurricanes. Guess what? Pretty damn dull.

Only hurricanes that were seen in Florida.

 

[Old Rocks]

Less than one-third of global weather-catastrophe losses are covered by insurance. This underinsurance is most extreme in the poorer countries. For example, in Asia (excluding Japan) insured losses from weather catastrophes since 1980 are at less than 5% of the overall losses. But many natural hazards remain underinsured even in developed countries, as people, companies or even governments frequently do not have sufficient risk awareness. Take the example of the flood risk in North America: while nearly half of all weather-disaster losses there since 1980 have been insured, the figure for flood losses in the same period is just one-fifth

Extreme weather risks | Munich Re

Extreme weather causes serious damage and destroys assets worth billions. Discover how to handle weather risks with solutions by Munich Re.

www.munichre.com

It is passingly strange that the mentally deficient on this board can ignore this. Even more strange that a troll that has the audacity to claim to be a Phd Geologist can ignore all the findings of the scientists in the GSA and AGU that say he is full of shit. But that is the current state of our society when people that support a treasonous fat senile old orange clown that kissed Putin's ass in public can call themselves patriots. And these same people supported the lies of the clown, and as a result about 800,000 Americans are dead. They deny the science and call the scientists liars, even as they post on the internet using computers. Do they really think the holy roller preachers developed our technology? The scientists have cataloged how the number of extreme weather events have increased over the past decades, and how much that has cost us.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

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Less than one-third of global weather-catastrophe losses are covered by insurance. This underinsurance is most extreme in the poorer countries. For example, in Asia (excluding Japan) insured losses from weather catastrophes since 1980 are at less than 5% of the overall losses. But many natural hazards remain underinsured even in developed countries, as people, companies or even governments frequently do not have sufficient risk awareness. Take the example of the flood risk in North America: while nearly half of all weather-disaster losses there since 1980 have been insured, the figure for flood losses in the same period is just one-fifth

Extreme weather risks | Munich Re

Extreme weather causes serious damage and destroys assets worth billions. Discover how to handle weather risks with solutions by Munich Re.

www.munichre.com

It is passingly strange that the mentally deficient on this board can ignore this. Even more strange that a troll that has the audacity to claim to be a Phd Geologist can ignore all the findings of the scientists in the GSA and AGU that say he is full of shit. But that is the current state of our society when people that support a treasonous fat senile old orange clown that kissed Putin's ass in public can call themselves patriots. And these same people supported the lies of the clown, and as a result about 800,000 Americans are dead. They deny the science and call the scientists liars, even as they post on the internet using computers. Do they really think the holy roller preachers developed our technology? The scientists have cataloged how the number of extreme weather events have increased over the past decades, and how much that has cost us.

They have cataloged the number have they? Provide a link to this list and the increase shown by year.

 

[Mac-7]

i wonder if people here still want to claim climate change is a natural phenomenon and no big deal?

Weather is a natural event

Mother Nature is powerful and unpredictable

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Less than one-third of global weather-catastrophe losses are covered by insurance. This underinsurance is most extreme in the poorer countries. For example, in Asia (excluding Japan) insured losses from weather catastrophes since 1980 are at less than 5% of the overall losses. But many natural hazards remain underinsured even in developed countries, as people, companies or even governments frequently do not have sufficient risk awareness. Take the example of the flood risk in North America: while nearly half of all weather-disaster losses there since 1980 have been insured, the figure for flood losses in the same period is just one-fifth

Extreme weather risks | Munich Re

Extreme weather causes serious damage and destroys assets worth billions. Discover how to handle weather risks with solutions by Munich Re.

www.munichre.com

It is passingly strange that the mentally deficient on this board can ignore this. Even more strange that a troll that has the audacity to claim to be a Phd Geologist can ignore all the findings of the scientists in the GSA and AGU that say he is full of shit. But that is the current state of our society when people that support a treasonous fat senile old orange clown that kissed Putin's ass in public can call themselves patriots. And these same people supported the lies of the clown, and as a result about 800,000 Americans are dead. They deny the science and call the scientists liars, even as they post on the internet using computers. Do they really think the holy roller preachers developed our technology? The scientists have cataloged how the number of extreme weather events have increased over the past decades, and how much that has cost us.

Global warming is awful and is going to destroy all your shit.

We have just the insurance you need.

Yeah, they sound very trustworty.