Contraception ruling expanded. Are gays next? Muslims? Atheists?

[rdean]

Supreme Court Broadens Hobby Lobby Ruling to All Forms of Birth Control | Mother Jones

On Tuesday, the Supremes ordered lower courts to rehear any cases where companies had sought to deny coverage for any type of contraception, not just the specific types Hobby Lobby was opposed to.

Wider impact of Hobby Lobby ruling? : SCOTUS

Cases ordered reconsidered in appeals courts:

Autocam Corp. v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of a Michigan company that manufactures products for the auto and medical supply industries objected to all forms of services covered by the mandate. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit rejected claims on behalf both of the owners and of their company separately. The Supreme Court vacated that ruling and ordered a new look under Hobby Lobby.

Gilardi v. Department of Health & Human Services. Two Catholic brothers who operate two Ohio companies that distribute fresh foods objected to all forms of preventive services. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia rejected the corporation’s challenge, leading the brothers to appeal on that point. (See below for the D.C. Circuit’s separate action on the owners’ claim.) The Supreme Court ordered reconsideration of the denial of the corporate challenge.

Eden Foods v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of an organic food company in Michigan objected to all forms of preventive services. The Sixth Circuit Court, relying largely on its ruling in the Autocam case, rejected the claims both of the owners and of their company. The Supreme Court ordered reconsideration of both aspects.

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It reminds me of what USMB Republicans say about voter ID. How they ignore the other tactics like reducing the number of hours or the number of polling places or getting rid of early voting. It's it deflection or a determined ignorance.

So, are gays next? If they can stop birth control, can they stop gay employment?

And why isn't this the beginning of a Christian Taliban?

 

[Mad Scientist]

So, are gays next? If they can stop birth control, can they stop gay employment?

Is that making you nervous?

 

[deltex1]

Gay men should be required to buy contraceptive devices. If we can pretend they are wives, we can pretend they can get pregnant.

 

[Silhouette]

Cases ordered reconsidered in appeals courts:

Autocam Corp. v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of a Michigan company that manufactures products for the auto and medical supply industries objected to all forms of services covered by the mandate. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit rejected claims on behalf both of the owners and of their company separately. The Supreme Court vacated that ruling and ordered a new look under Hobby Lobby.

Hey, didn't the US Supreme Court also vacate Prop 8? And if They Find as they avered in Windsor repeatedly, that states get to say "yes" or "no" to gay marriage as their voters see fit, is this the Court telling the LGBT activist cult "we see what you're doing in California and we don't like it." ? http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...future-attempt-another-coup-on-democracy.html

That move to destroy CA's initiative system last week came on behalf of that poor state's rogue officials/gay activists simply and pre-emptively deciding gay marriage has already been settled at the SCOTUS level. So they just illegally revoked/altered an intiative law there without the required process of another initiative to repeal it, approved by the voters.

ie, they saw what's coming and moved to be in contempt of the Court ahead of time....and sedition of their own state's constitutional provisions.

This act of the Court ordering rehearings of vacated older rulings is significant. And yes, I believe they are sending out smoke signals that this is not going to be the last time they move to do something like this.

 

[daveman]

Gay men should be required to buy contraceptive devices. If we can pretend they are wives, we can pretend they can get pregnant.

Obamacare forces men and old women to buy OB/GYN coverage. Why not?

 

[Silhouette]

Gay men should be required to buy contraceptive devices. If we can pretend they are wives, we can pretend they can get pregnant.

Obamacare forces men and old women to buy OB/GYN coverage. Why not?

I think you're attacking Obamacare here. This thread is about "which cases where the SCOTUS will order rehearings about vacated old rulings will be next".

The simple solution for healthcare is universal, single payer. Like the Canadian system. BTW, Canadians have a higher quality of life and more capitalistic wealth right now than US citizens do. They figured out that if regular peeps have more money in their pocket and aren't worrying about getting sick or injured and going bankrupt from that [60% of bankruptcies in this country are from health issues] then they're out spending that time and money consuming goods, building goods to trade on the world market from a jobplace where robotics and automation are legally-limited to provide more jobs for people.

In short, the Canadians are smart enough to figure out how the best capitalism system works while we are too stupid to figure that out.

But, back to the actual topic here...

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Good.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Gay men should be required to buy contraceptive devices. If we can pretend they are wives, we can pretend they can get pregnant.

Obamacare forces men and old women to buy OB/GYN coverage. Why not?

I think you're attacking Obamacare here. This thread is about "which cases where the SCOTUS will order rehearings about vacated old rulings will be next".

The simple solution for healthcare is universal, single payer. Like the Canadian system. BTW, Canadians have a higher quality of life and more capitalistic wealth right now than US citizens do. They figured out that if regular peeps have more money in their pocket and aren't worrying about getting sick or injured and going bankrupt from that [60% of bankruptcies in this country are from health issues] then they're out spending that time and money consuming goods, building goods to trade on the world market from a jobplace where robotics and automation are legally-limited to provide more jobs for people.

In short, the Canadians are smart enough to figure out how the best capitalism system works while we are too stupid to figure that out.

But, back to the actual topic here...

Single payer, govt style.......no thanks. Look no further than the VA mess. I guess I'm not that surprised that y'all yearn for such failure.

 

[daveman]

Gay men should be required to buy contraceptive devices. If we can pretend they are wives, we can pretend they can get pregnant.

Obamacare forces men and old women to buy OB/GYN coverage. Why not?

I think you're attacking Obamacare here. This thread is about "which cases where the SCOTUS will order rehearings about vacated old rulings will be next".

The simple solution for healthcare is universal, single payer. Like the Canadian system. BTW, Canadians have a higher quality of life and more capitalistic wealth right now than US citizens do. They figured out that if regular peeps have more money in their pocket and aren't worrying about getting sick or injured and going bankrupt from that [60% of bankruptcies in this country are from health issues] then they're out spending that time and money consuming goods, building goods to trade on the world market from a jobplace where robotics and automation are legally-limited to provide more jobs for people.

In short, the Canadians are smart enough to figure out how the best capitalism system works while we are too stupid to figure that out.

But, back to the actual topic here...

Will single-payer cover your Chronic Stick-Up-The-Ass Syndrome?

 

[rdean]

Obamacare forces men and old women to buy OB/GYN coverage. Why not?

I think you're attacking Obamacare here. This thread is about "which cases where the SCOTUS will order rehearings about vacated old rulings will be next".

The simple solution for healthcare is universal, single payer. Like the Canadian system. BTW, Canadians have a higher quality of life and more capitalistic wealth right now than US citizens do. They figured out that if regular peeps have more money in their pocket and aren't worrying about getting sick or injured and going bankrupt from that [60% of bankruptcies in this country are from health issues] then they're out spending that time and money consuming goods, building goods to trade on the world market from a jobplace where robotics and automation are legally-limited to provide more jobs for people.

In short, the Canadians are smart enough to figure out how the best capitalism system works while we are too stupid to figure that out.

But, back to the actual topic here...

Single payer, govt style.......no thanks. Look no further than the VA mess. I guess I'm not that surprised that y'all yearn for such failure.

Republicans aren't looking to help anyone. They want the sick to "die quickly".

Imagine we had no government before WWII. We would all be speaking German.

We would have no interstate highway system.

Our infrastructure would be patchwork at best. Because of Republicans it's old and likely to stay old.

No one to help after natural disasters.

Epidemics everywhere.

The list of things that government does is endless. After what Republicans have done to the country in the last 20 years, it's still bigger than the list of GOP damage. But just barely.

 

[Erand7899]

Supreme Court Broadens Hobby Lobby Ruling to All Forms of Birth Control | Mother Jones

On Tuesday, the Supremes ordered lower courts to rehear any cases where companies had sought to deny coverage for any type of contraception, not just the specific types Hobby Lobby was opposed to.

Wider impact of Hobby Lobby ruling? : SCOTUS

Cases ordered reconsidered in appeals courts:

Autocam Corp. v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of a Michigan company that manufactures products for the auto and medical supply industries objected to all forms of services covered by the mandate. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit rejected claims on behalf both of the owners and of their company separately. The Supreme Court vacated that ruling and ordered a new look under Hobby Lobby.

Gilardi v. Department of Health & Human Services. Two Catholic brothers who operate two Ohio companies that distribute fresh foods objected to all forms of preventive services. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia rejected the corporation’s challenge, leading the brothers to appeal on that point. (See below for the D.C. Circuit’s separate action on the owners’ claim.) The Supreme Court ordered reconsideration of the denial of the corporate challenge.

Eden Foods v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of an organic food company in Michigan objected to all forms of preventive services. The Sixth Circuit Court, relying largely on its ruling in the Autocam case, rejected the claims both of the owners and of their company. The Supreme Court ordered reconsideration of both aspects.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

It reminds me of what USMB Republicans say about voter ID. How they ignore the other tactics like reducing the number of hours or the number of polling places or getting rid of early voting. It's it deflection or a determined ignorance.

So, are gays next? If they can stop birth control, can they stop gay employment?

And why isn't this the beginning of a Christian Taliban?

Probably the end of a Liberal/Socialist Taliban. The exercise of first amendment rights is why the first amendment was created. The fact that you, and your ilk, are not allowed to impose your religious beliefs (or lack of religious beliefs) onto others is as American as apple pie.

BTW, voter ID, the hours of polling places, and reduction of early voting, affect all voters equally, and therefore is legal, moral, and ethical. None of these rules prevents any legal voter from voting, if they wish to vote.

As far as reduction of polling places goes, that could be discrimination, if it is done to make it more difficult for certain segments of society to vote. However, that could be easily overcome through early voting and absentee balloting.

 

[jillian]

Supreme Court Broadens Hobby Lobby Ruling to All Forms of Birth Control | Mother Jones

On Tuesday, the Supremes ordered lower courts to rehear any cases where companies had sought to deny coverage for any type of contraception, not just the specific types Hobby Lobby was opposed to.

Wider impact of Hobby Lobby ruling? : SCOTUS

Cases ordered reconsidered in appeals courts:

Autocam Corp. v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of a Michigan company that manufactures products for the auto and medical supply industries objected to all forms of services covered by the mandate. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit rejected claims on behalf both of the owners and of their company separately. The Supreme Court vacated that ruling and ordered a new look under Hobby Lobby.

Gilardi v. Department of Health & Human Services. Two Catholic brothers who operate two Ohio companies that distribute fresh foods objected to all forms of preventive services. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia rejected the corporation’s challenge, leading the brothers to appeal on that point. (See below for the D.C. Circuit’s separate action on the owners’ claim.) The Supreme Court ordered reconsideration of the denial of the corporate challenge.

Eden Foods v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of an organic food company in Michigan objected to all forms of preventive services. The Sixth Circuit Court, relying largely on its ruling in the Autocam case, rejected the claims both of the owners and of their company. The Supreme Court ordered reconsideration of both aspects.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

It reminds me of what USMB Republicans say about voter ID. How they ignore the other tactics like reducing the number of hours or the number of polling places or getting rid of early voting. It's it deflection or a determined ignorance.

So, are gays next? If they can stop birth control, can they stop gay employment?

And why isn't this the beginning of a Christian Taliban?

Probably the end of a Liberal/Socialist Taliban. The exercise of first amendment rights is why the first amendment was created. The fact that you, and your ilk, are not allowed to impose your religious beliefs (or lack of religious beliefs) onto others is as American as apple pie.

BTW, voter ID, the hours of polling places, and reduction of early voting, affect all voters equally, and therefore is legal, moral, and ethical. None of these rules prevents any legal voter from voting, if they wish to vote.

As far as reduction of polling places goes, that could be discrimination, if it is done to make it more difficult for certain segments of society to vote. However, that could be easily overcome through early voting and absentee balloting.

nice use of the word taiban, an extremist religious group, for people who DON'T want you making this country into a theocracy.

now run along.

 

[Antares]

So if a Rightie quotes Mother Jones he/she is a tin foil hat candidate, but when a Lefty does it it's Gospel.

Am I understanding correctly.?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Supreme Court Broadens Hobby Lobby Ruling to All Forms of Birth Control | Mother Jones

On Tuesday, the Supremes ordered lower courts to rehear any cases where companies had sought to deny coverage for any type of contraception, not just the specific types Hobby Lobby was opposed to.

Wider impact of Hobby Lobby ruling? : SCOTUS

Cases ordered reconsidered in appeals courts:

Autocam Corp. v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of a Michigan company that manufactures products for the auto and medical supply industries objected to all forms of services covered by the mandate. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit rejected claims on behalf both of the owners and of their company separately. The Supreme Court vacated that ruling and ordered a new look under Hobby Lobby.

Gilardi v. Department of Health & Human Services. Two Catholic brothers who operate two Ohio companies that distribute fresh foods objected to all forms of preventive services. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia rejected the corporation’s challenge, leading the brothers to appeal on that point. (See below for the D.C. Circuit’s separate action on the owners’ claim.) The Supreme Court ordered reconsideration of the denial of the corporate challenge.

Eden Foods v. Burwell. The Catholic owners of an organic food company in Michigan objected to all forms of preventive services. The Sixth Circuit Court, relying largely on its ruling in the Autocam case, rejected the claims both of the owners and of their company. The Supreme Court ordered reconsideration of both aspects.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

It reminds me of what USMB Republicans say about voter ID. How they ignore the other tactics like reducing the number of hours or the number of polling places or getting rid of early voting. It's it deflection or a determined ignorance.

So, are gays next? If they can stop birth control, can they stop gay employment?

And why isn't this the beginning of a Christian Taliban?

Gee, the court thinks that lower courts have to follow precedent. Imagine that, maybe all those courts that heard a case involving Obamacare should just decide to enforce all the rulings from when they said it was unconstitutional. After all, SCOTUS isn't the only court in America.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Gay men should be required to buy contraceptive devices. If we can pretend they are wives, we can pretend they can get pregnant.

They already have to pay for it if they have insurance, I see no reason they shouldn't be forced to actually take them under the same legal theory.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Obamacare forces men and old women to buy OB/GYN coverage. Why not?

I think you're attacking Obamacare here. This thread is about "which cases where the SCOTUS will order rehearings about vacated old rulings will be next".

The simple solution for healthcare is universal, single payer. Like the Canadian system. BTW, Canadians have a higher quality of life and more capitalistic wealth right now than US citizens do. They figured out that if regular peeps have more money in their pocket and aren't worrying about getting sick or injured and going bankrupt from that [60% of bankruptcies in this country are from health issues] then they're out spending that time and money consuming goods, building goods to trade on the world market from a jobplace where robotics and automation are legally-limited to provide more jobs for people.

In short, the Canadians are smart enough to figure out how the best capitalism system works while we are too stupid to figure that out.

But, back to the actual topic here...

Will single-payer cover your Chronic Stick-Up-The-Ass Syndrome?

Not sure...what are its mental-health coverages? Silly's situation is bad enough that they might only cover lobotomization...