Current COVID-19 Mortality Rate: 1.35%

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

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It’s much lower than that. Most people that get mild symptoms just stay home and recover, and they aren’t being tested.
3000 deaths so far and trump thr expert said he hopes it is gonna be less than 100 000. No big deal right?
 
The death toll this hour stands at 2,400.

Dr. Fauci thinks, in the end there will be around 100 to 200k fatalities, and the lower bound would be a success.

To put this in context: It took a month for the first 1,000 patients to die.

The next 1000 took just 48 hours.

This is what exponential growth looks like. Still, hard to imagine to get from 2,400 to 100k. But it isn't.

Currently, the infection count doubles about every three days. Let's hope social distancing works and the count slows down and doubles every four days for the next weeks. With some time lag, the death rate follows, all else equal, without some miraculous breakthrough in treatment, that same trajectory.

So, given the trajectory we get to

4,800 in 4 days
9,600 in 8 days
19,200 in 12 days
38,400 in 16 days
76,800 in 20 days
In 24 days, the count will be above 100k.

Look at it in another way:

My back of the envelope calculation suggests we have 5 million infected right now.

Let's take a napkin:

80% of covid-19 cases are either asymptomatic or with very mild symptoms. Next to none of them are tested.

At 120,000 confirmed cases, we know there are five times as many, that is, around 600,000 cases out there.

Actually, since symptom expression takes about 10 days, and only those with symptoms are tested, these 120,000 cases with severe symptoms are a snapshot of the situation of 10 days ago.

We also know the virus is highly infectious and spreads at a staggering rate, say, doubling around every three days. With ten days having passed since the snapshot had been taken, the count doubled at least three times, and the actual number of infected today is at least eight times the count of ten days ago, allowing for "stay at home", "social distancing" to have some limited effect since it started. Still, eight times 600,000 means we're facing almost five million infected. Now. Today.

Five million. Even if the spread is slowing down, doubling only every five days, we're 25 days away from 160 million infected.

In four days, it will be about double that. 10 million infected, assuming a death rate of 1%, means 100k fatalities. This fatality count, since the time between infection and death of the most vulnerable is about 20 days, is about 24 days away. That's barely more than three weeks.

You can see why Dr. Fauci would assert 100k deaths would be optimistic, and that's probably assuming that nowhere in the U.S. the healtcare system is so seriously overwhelmed that the death rate rises even higher. In order to understand what we see here: About 5% of those infected require intensive care - depending on the rate of folks with pre-existing conditions in the population, and how efficiently the most vulnerable are being protected. At 10 million infected, that's 500k, in an ICU bed for two weeks in a roughly four-week period, about halving the number, 250k occupied ICU beds at any time - 2.5 times the pre-epidemic ICU beds in the U.S. (about 100k). We haven't even talked about the fact that these ICU beds are well used, even in normal times. You can see why Gov. Cuomo is insisting on the number of ICU beds to be doubled to prepare for the spike in New York State.

That's all just basic knowledge about the coronavirus and extrapolation, and probably somewhat off the mark, but: Whoever still hasn't understood what lies ahead, the very magnitude of it - wake the fúck up!
Fauci is a TDS Hillary butthole licking moron who is promoting hysteria.


TDS has variants, just the corona viruses do as a taxonomy. What I shall past in as a link below will be above you, but it is not for you. I will post it in as a response to an idiot, for whom there is no response, for the benefit of on lookers.

 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
Might be because your math doesn't include that. And the original math from the WHO was way over inflated.............

What I said is TRUE...........PERIOD........which is why they always have numbers so screwed up in history over the real numbers.............They GUESS.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
Might be because your math doesn't include that. And the original math from the WHO was way over inflated.............

What I said is TRUE...........PERIOD........which is why they always have numbers so screwed up in history over the real numbers.............They GUESS.

You can say the same for the flu, which has a 0.1% mortality rate. I'm not claiming that any of the numbers are perfect. But they can at least give us a frame of reference.

1.93% > 0.1%
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
Might be because your math doesn't include that. And the original math from the WHO was way over inflated.............

What I said is TRUE...........PERIOD........which is why they always have numbers so screwed up in history over the real numbers.............They GUESS.

You can say the same for the flu, which has a 0.1% mortality rate. I'm not claiming that any of the numbers are perfect. But they can at least give us a frame of reference.

1.93% > 0.1%
They are INACCURATE.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
Might be because your math doesn't include that. And the original math from the WHO was way over inflated.............

What I said is TRUE...........PERIOD........which is why they always have numbers so screwed up in history over the real numbers.............They GUESS.

You can say the same for the flu, which has a 0.1% mortality rate. I'm not claiming that any of the numbers are perfect. But they can at least give us a frame of reference.

1.93% > 0.1%
They are INACCURATE.

Ok, you tried. You're excused now.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
Might be because your math doesn't include that. And the original math from the WHO was way over inflated.............

What I said is TRUE...........PERIOD........which is why they always have numbers so screwed up in history over the real numbers.............They GUESS.

You can say the same for the flu, which has a 0.1% mortality rate. I'm not claiming that any of the numbers are perfect. But they can at least give us a frame of reference.

1.93% > 0.1%
They are INACCURATE.

Ok, you tried. You're excused now.
Good...
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
MIght as well go with some other science fiction? Those numbers are all fantasy.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
Then why are you wasting our time, asshole?
 
The death toll this hour stands at 2,400.

Dr. Fauci thinks, in the end there will be around 100 to 200k fatalities, and the lower bound would be a success.

To put this in context: It took a month for the first 1,000 patients to die.

The next 1000 took just 48 hours.

This is what exponential growth looks like. Still, hard to imagine to get from 2,400 to 100k. But it isn't.

Currently, the infection count doubles about every three days. Let's hope social distancing works and the count slows down and doubles every four days for the next weeks. With some time lag, the death rate follows, all else equal, without some miraculous breakthrough in treatment, that same trajectory.

So, given the trajectory we get to

4,800 in 4 days
9,600 in 8 days
19,200 in 12 days
38,400 in 16 days
76,800 in 20 days
In 24 days, the count will be above 100k.

Look at it in another way:

My back of the envelope calculation suggests we have 5 million infected right now.

Let's take a napkin:

80% of covid-19 cases are either asymptomatic or with very mild symptoms. Next to none of them are tested.

At 120,000 confirmed cases, we know there are five times as many, that is, around 600,000 cases out there.

Actually, since symptom expression takes about 10 days, and only those with symptoms are tested, these 120,000 cases with severe symptoms are a snapshot of the situation of 10 days ago.

We also know the virus is highly infectious and spreads at a staggering rate, say, doubling around every three days. With ten days having passed since the snapshot had been taken, the count doubled at least three times, and the actual number of infected today is at least eight times the count of ten days ago, allowing for "stay at home", "social distancing" to have some limited effect since it started. Still, eight times 600,000 means we're facing almost five million infected. Now. Today.

Five million. Even if the spread is slowing down, doubling only every five days, we're 25 days away from 160 million infected.

In four days, it will be about double that. 10 million infected, assuming a death rate of 1%, means 100k fatalities. This fatality count, since the time between infection and death of the most vulnerable is about 20 days, is about 24 days away. That's barely more than three weeks.

You can see why Dr. Fauci would assert 100k deaths would be optimistic, and that's probably assuming that nowhere in the U.S. the healtcare system is so seriously overwhelmed that the death rate rises even higher. In order to understand what we see here: About 5% of those infected require intensive care - depending on the rate of folks with pre-existing conditions in the population, and how efficiently the most vulnerable are being protected. At 10 million infected, that's 500k, in an ICU bed for two weeks in a roughly four-week period, about halving the number, 250k occupied ICU beds at any time - 2.5 times the pre-epidemic ICU beds in the U.S. (about 100k). We haven't even talked about the fact that these ICU beds are well used, even in normal times. You can see why Gov. Cuomo is insisting on the number of ICU beds to be doubled to prepare for the spike in New York State.

That's all just basic knowledge about the coronavirus and extrapolation, and probably somewhat off the mark, but: Whoever still hasn't understood what lies ahead, the very magnitude of it - wake the fúck up!
Fauci is a TDS Hillary butthole licking moron who is promoting hysteria.


TDS has variants, just the corona viruses do as a taxonomy. What I shall past in as a link below will be above you, but it is not for you. I will post it in as a response to an idiot, for whom there is no response, for the benefit of on lookers.

There are no "varaints." There are only terms the TDS morons invented to distract attention from their affliction.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
MIght as well go with some other science fiction? Those numbers are all fantasy.

Those are the best numbers we have access to, the same numbers that everyone is using.

Trump shut down our economy and signed a $2 Trillion stimulus bill over these numbers. Are you saying he did that based on fantasy???
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
Then why are you wasting our time, asshole?

Nobody is forcing you to waste time looking at data.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
MIght as well go with some other science fiction? Those numbers are all fantasy.

Those are the best numbers we have access to, the same numbers that everyone is using.

Trump shut down our economy and signed a $2 Trillion stimulus bill over these numbers. Are you saying he did that based on fantasy???
Those numbers are all bullshit. The "experts" who publish them know they are all bullshit. Rejecting them would expose Trump to the unmitigated attacks from fake news.

The true death rate is the ratio of deaths over the number of people infected, and the numbers you posted aren't based on that calculation.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
Doesn't include those not tested. Many places say if the symtoms are mild stay home and self isolate.................

Those numbers are high.

Yes, I know. You guys keep repeating that.
Then why are you wasting our time, asshole?

Nobody is forcing you to waste time looking at data.
That isn't "data." It's horseshit.
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
MIght as well go with some other science fiction? Those numbers are all fantasy.

Those are the best numbers we have access to, the same numbers that everyone is using.

Trump shut down our economy and signed a $2 Trillion stimulus bill over these numbers. Are you saying he did that based on fantasy???
Those numbers are all bullshit. The "experts" who publish them know they are all bullshit. Rejecting them would expose Trump to the unmitigated attacks from fake news.

The true death rate is the ratio of deaths over the number of people infected, and the numbers you posted aren't based on that calculation.

You must be soooooo mad at Trump for crashing the economy over those fantasy numbers, right?

Right???
 
Might as well go further with the mortality rates over the last several days:

3/22: 1.30%
3/23: 1.21%
3/24: 1.25%
3/25: 1.35%
3/26: 1.44%
3/27: 1.46%
3/28: 1.67%
3/29: 1.76%
3/30: 1.93% (Technically today is 3/31 but it's at the end of 3/30)
MIght as well go with some other science fiction? Those numbers are all fantasy.

Those are the best numbers we have access to, the same numbers that everyone is using.

Trump shut down our economy and signed a $2 Trillion stimulus bill over these numbers. Are you saying he did that based on fantasy???
Those numbers are all bullshit. The "experts" who publish them know they are all bullshit. Rejecting them would expose Trump to the unmitigated attacks from fake news.

The true death rate is the ratio of deaths over the number of people infected, and the numbers you posted aren't based on that calculation.

You must be soooooo mad at Trump for crashing the economy over those fantasy numbers, right?

Right???
No. Trump is simply bowing to political necessity. The people responsible are the fake news media and TDS morons like you.
 

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