Democrats in Meltdown: Chris Matthews Goes After Sanders

[pknopp]

What administration has not been based and run on lies?

There has not been an administration that has lied like this one.

Any bad action you excuse will only continue to get worse.

Then stop excusing trump.

I'm not. I do not support Trump. I support Sanders. You can't call out others though for defending lies when you do the same.

Sanders does not propose the same things as Obama. I think I was alive to hear what Obama proposed and what Bernie does. Furthermore Bernie is not a democrat and should not be running as a democratic candidate. But he's a political opportunist and knows he can't be heard if he runs as an independent. So for that alone, Bernie should not be considered for nomination in the democratic party. Republicans won't allow a republican leaning independent to run for president so why should democrats?

Obama didn't lie, he compromised in order to get something done. It's easy to talk shit, but when you sit behind that chair you are the president of the entire country, republican and democrat. Bernie Sanders is a loudmouth that has not been able to accomplish anything in almost 30 years in DC. He voted for the crime bill. He voted to send toxic waste from Vermont to a small mostly Hispanic town in Texas. He wrote a paper about women fantasizing about getting raped. He stood with dictators denouncing America. If he is the nominee, trump gets a second term. So if you support Bernie, you might as well support trump.

Again, little on specifics.

Obama promised to go after the bankers that broke our financial laws. He did not. That was entirely on him. No compromise.

Obama promised to ban lobbyists from the White House. He broke that one on day one. No compromise.

He promised to get us out of the wars. That's his decision to make. He did not.

He promised to not get us involved in new stupid regime change wars. He did. Entirely on him.

How many more do you want?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

And Obama didn't lie about those thing

The brown turd lied about everything except this "We are one step away from Fundamentally transforming America" into a 3rd world nation. The oceans still rose, the planet didnt heal, there was no hope and no change in peoples pockets, as he put the most in poverty since the war on poverty started.

Thanks Oblummer.
That’s rich: Poverty level under Obama breaks 50-year record


The history of "Thanks, Obama"

The most narcassistic President since Bill Clinton..

I was in a discussion with a non racist, so you need to stay out trying to lie about Obama.

Sorry but being a Barista at starbucks isnt considered job growth. More people left the work force under Obama, more people had to get minimum wage jobs under the brown turd because Oblummer chased all the good paying jobs(manufacturing) to Mexico and China. But again, dumbasses like you just follow lock step with what ever the liberals tell you .

Obama's Real Unemployment Rate Is 14.7%, And A Recession's On The Way

 

[IM2]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

That's what I saw. That's what history has shown us. Your vague accusations are just that also. I stated specific policies where they were the same.

Actually that's not what history shows us.

The Economic Platform and Promises of Candidate Barack Obama in 2008

 

[Mac1958]

"I've seen what socialism's like, and I don't like it. OK? It's not only not free, it doesn't frickin' work."

Matthews distinguished between Democrats, who he said were to the left of Republicans and preferred more social programs, to socialists that he identified with the communists and other revolutionaries.

Perhaps Mr Matthews could extent his discontent past the '20 candidates and onto QE4, where private industry helps itself to national assets, IE > a socialist handout to the tune of nearly a trillion of tax payer dollars

Seems both parties were moot on that!!!

~S~

Like Trump, Sanders is a symptom, a cautionary tale.

The lunatics really are running the asylum.

This ain't good, and little good is happening in the short term.
.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

And Obama didn't lie about those thing

The brown turd lied about everything except this "We are one step away from Fundamentally transforming America" into a 3rd world nation. The oceans still rose, the planet didnt heal, there was no hope and no change in peoples pockets, as he put the most in poverty since the war on poverty started.

Thanks Oblummer.
That’s rich: Poverty level under Obama breaks 50-year record


The history of "Thanks, Obama"

The most narcassistic President since Bill Clinton..

I was in a discussion with a non racist, so you need to stay out trying to lie about Obama.

Bwaaaahhaaaaaa…..Bud, you need to look in the mirror about lying......

 

[pknopp]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

You are confused. He is running on a platform to implement the disastrous "Hope and Change" agenda that Obama was prevented from significantly advancing when the 2010 elected Republican House took over.

Obama, Crooked Hillary, Commie Bernie and all the other filthy Democrats have an agenda to make the US a socialist shithole. The only difference between the buttpirates is the rate in which they are willing to proceed.

Democrats are the scum of this country. Every damn one of them.

Socialism......tariffs, bail outs, the entire Fed policy. But that's great stuff isn't it?

Who is working for the billions the Fed is pumping into the banks? Where do I find this in any book on Capitalism?

As a Capitalist, why should one have to get the government's approval to trade with another partner?

 

[IM2]

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

And Obama didn't lie about those thing

The brown turd lied about everything except this "We are one step away from Fundamentally transforming America" into a 3rd world nation. The oceans still rose, the planet didnt heal, there was no hope and no change in peoples pockets, as he put the most in poverty since the war on poverty started.

Thanks Oblummer.
That’s rich: Poverty level under Obama breaks 50-year record


The history of "Thanks, Obama"

The most narcassistic President since Bill Clinton..

I was in a discussion with a non racist, so you need to stay out trying to lie about Obama.

Sorry but being a Barista at starbucks isnt considered job growth. More people left the work force under Obama, more people had to get minimum wage jobs under the brown turd because Oblummer chased all the good paying jobs(manufacturing) to Mexico and China. But again, dumbasses like you just follow lock step with what ever the liberals tell you .

Obama's Real Unemployment Rate Is 14.7%, And A Recession's On The Way

Everything you say is untrue. That's why trump has created fewer jobs than Obama with a far stronger economy to work with.

 

[pknopp]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

That's what I saw. That's what history has shown us. Your vague accusations are just that also. I stated specific policies where they were the same.

Actually that's not what history shows us.

The Economic Platform and Promises of Candidate Barack Obama in 2008

Are you going to actually make some argument of where Obama and Sanders differed?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It's as I've said for a long time. The Democrats are noting that Sanders isn't actually a Democrat. What that is saying is that outside of a few social issues there is very little differences in the Democrats and Republicans.

Sanders is basically running on Obama's platform. Matthews had tingles running down his leg when Obama said the things Sanders is.

It's sad to now understand how many understood that when Obama said them, they were all a lie.

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

That's what I saw. That's what history has shown us. Your vague accusations are just that also. I stated specific policies where they were the same.

Actually that's not what history shows us.

The Economic Platform and Promises of Candidate Barack Obama in 2008

Actually, it does....The brown turd took over as the worst President dethroning the Peanut brain, Jimmy Carter...


It’s now official: On foreign policy, Barack Obama is worse than Jimmy Carter. For decades, Carter’s presidency was synonymous with weakness on the world stage. The late 1970’s was the era of double-digit inflation, a worldwide oil crisis, Iranian hostages and Soviet military advances from Latin America to Afghanistan.
It's Official: Obama Is Worse Than Carter | RealClearPolitics
www.realclearpolitics.com/2014/06/29/it039s_official_obama_is_worse_than_carter_335625.html

 

[IM2]

"I've seen what socialism's like, and I don't like it. OK? It's not only not free, it doesn't frickin' work."

Matthews distinguished between Democrats, who he said were to the left of Republicans and preferred more social programs, to socialists that he identified with the communists and other revolutionaries.

Perhaps Mr Matthews could extent his discontent past the '20 candidates and onto QE4, where private industry helps itself to national assets, IE > a socialist handout to the tune of nearly a trillion of tax payer dollars

Seems both parties were moot on that!!!

~S~

Who owns those tax breaks?

You just disqualified yourself from serious discussion when you quoted Sowell.

 

[depotoo]

Who votes for a socialist?

There are between 25-30% of the country that might.

 

[pknopp]

"I've seen what socialism's like, and I don't like it. OK? It's not only not free, it doesn't frickin' work."

Matthews distinguished between Democrats, who he said were to the left of Republicans and preferred more social programs, to socialists that he identified with the communists and other revolutionaries.

Perhaps Mr Matthews could extent his discontent past the '20 candidates and onto QE4, where private industry helps itself to national assets, IE > a socialist handout to the tune of nearly a trillion of tax payer dollars

Seems both parties were moot on that!!!

~S~

Who owns those tax breaks?

You just disqualified yourself from serious discussion when you quoted Sowell.

It's on par with quoting Krugman.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

And Obama didn't lie about those thing

The brown turd lied about everything except this "We are one step away from Fundamentally transforming America" into a 3rd world nation. The oceans still rose, the planet didnt heal, there was no hope and no change in peoples pockets, as he put the most in poverty since the war on poverty started.

Thanks Oblummer.
That’s rich: Poverty level under Obama breaks 50-year record


The history of "Thanks, Obama"

The most narcassistic President since Bill Clinton..

I was in a discussion with a non racist, so you need to stay out trying to lie about Obama.

Sorry but being a Barista at starbucks isnt considered job growth. More people left the work force under Obama, more people had to get minimum wage jobs under the brown turd because Oblummer chased all the good paying jobs(manufacturing) to Mexico and China. But again, dumbasses like you just follow lock step with what ever the liberals tell you .

Obama's Real Unemployment Rate Is 14.7%, And A Recession's On The Way

Everything you say is untrue. That's why trump has created fewer jobs than Obama with a far stronger economy to work with.

I laugh at your stupidity...

Trumps magic wand.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Who votes for a socialist?

There are between 25-30% of the country that might.

Only idiots and Evil people vote Socialism.

 

[Mac1958]

Right now the Trumpsters are crowing about an economy that is being buoyed and pushed in large part by a massive increase in government spending and a Fed that is pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A MONTH into markets to grease the system.

This may be ignorance, this may be willful blindness, this may be dishonesty. I don't know. But for them to whine about "socialism" is just...... stupid.
.

 

[pknopp]

Right now the Trumpsters are crowing about an economy that is being buoyed and pushed in large part by a massive increase in government spending and a Fed that is pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A MONTH into markets to grease the system.

This may be ignorance, this may be willful blindness, this may be dishonesty. I don't know. But for them to whine about "socialism" is just...... stupid.
.

It's dishonest and hate.

 

[IM2]

Sanders is not running on Obamas platform.

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

That's what I saw. That's what history has shown us. Your vague accusations are just that also. I stated specific policies where they were the same.

Actually that's not what history shows us.

The Economic Platform and Promises of Candidate Barack Obama in 2008

Are you going to actually make some argument of where Obama and Sanders differed?

Bernie is going to raise taxes. He has said as much. I know you Sanders lovers want to make him into Obama but he's not. And Bernie wants to dismantle Obamacare, he opposed trade deals that Obama proposed and really his opposition to wall street isn't even the same as Obamas. Obama did not propose free college education. You can say that all the democrats running proposed things Obama proposed because some things are long held democratic party beliefs, but Sanders did not propose the exact same things as Obama.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

That's what I saw. That's what history has shown us. Your vague accusations are just that also. I stated specific policies where they were the same.

Actually that's not what history shows us.

The Economic Platform and Promises of Candidate Barack Obama in 2008

Are you going to actually make some argument of where Obama and Sanders differed?

Bernie is going to raise taxes. He has said as much. I know you Sanders lovers want to make him into Obama but he's not. And Bernie wants to dismantle Obamacare, he opposed trade deals that Obama proposed and really his opposition to wall street isn't even the same as Obamas. Obama did not propose free college education. You can say that all the democrats running proposed things Obama proposed because some things are long held democratic party beliefs, but Sanders did not propose the exact same things as Obama.

There are two things that the brown turd did well at.

Barack Obama Won The White House, But Democrats Lost The Country
'Obama Is The Greatest Gun Salesman Of All Time,' Texas Gun Store Owner Says

 

[pknopp]

Ending wars. Health care for all. Affordable education. Lessen the influence of big business on the government.

He absolutely is. It's just that Obama was lying.

I know you would like to believe this, but Bernies proposals were not the same as Obamas. And Obama didn't lie about those thing but that's what the RRWM told you.

That's what I saw. That's what history has shown us. Your vague accusations are just that also. I stated specific policies where they were the same.

Actually that's not what history shows us.

The Economic Platform and Promises of Candidate Barack Obama in 2008

Are you going to actually make some argument of where Obama and Sanders differed?

Bernie is going to raise taxes. He has said as much. I know you Sanders lovers want to make him into Obama but he's not. And Bernie wants to dismantle Obamacare, he opposed trade deals that Obama proposed and really his opposition to wall street isn't even the same as Obamas. Obama did not propose free college education. You can say that all the democrats running proposed things Obama proposed because some things are long held democratic party beliefs, but Sanders did not propose the exact same things as Obama.

Any one is going to have to raise taxes. We are 23 Trillion in debt. Why do you support massive programs that are never paid for?

When are people going to step up and start paying the trillions the wars are costing us?

 

[hjmick]

Chris Matthews... even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while...