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Donald Trump showed bad judgement when he jumped the gun on the downed plane

Who was the pilot trying to terrorize? The other Muslims on the plane and their Muslim families? :rolleyes:
Muslim terrorists kill more Musiims than westerners dear.
Yes they do....in their civil wars going on.

But what does that have to do with the pilot downing a plane to terrorise? Terrorize whom and for what motive?
PLEASE tell me you're not being serious....
Care to answer my question?
You seem to think your in "the know" on terrorists motives.
I think your line of thinking is beyond dumb, therefore your question has no merit in this discussion.
:rolleyes:
Oh come on Gramps, everyone on this thread including the member I was initially responding to... and you jumped in on, has their opinion on what happened.... seriously, no need to try to demean me for asking a simple, VALID in my mind, question for the member quoting that the Pilot was associated with the Muslim Brotherhood and brought the plane down purposely, as a terrorist....as an act of terrorism....

It wasn't a stupid question at all....

As example if the poster had heard the pilot was Sunni and most of the passengers were Shiite, then his post would have a tad more credibility and would have been more understandable with what the motive could be....
 
Every thinking person on the planet connected terrorism to the downed plane
Like Benghazi to that video that caused riots world wide that left dozens dead?

OMG! Still bitterly clinging to the video lie are you?

:lmao:
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You can't possibly be such a stupid fuck. No really. If you are able to read and write, you can't possibly be that stupid. So it must be satire. What else could it be?

Who trotted out the video lie, stupid fuck?
The CIA did....it was one of their possibilities given to the administration.... ALL the different Benghazi Committees lead by Republicans in Congress have stated they found that it was in the CIA's assessment briefs.
 
I have much better examples of bad judgment:

* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

But you just don't care, do you?
 
I have much better examples of bad judgment:

* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

But you just don't care, do you?
* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.
Well, when congress decides to cut your budget and you have 45,000 employees to look after....bad things can happen....hind sight is 20/20 ya know?

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

FYI-She didn't get any requests from Stevens, but her staff did...and even without all of his requests being filled, Stevens refused the extra security offered to him for his trip to Benghazi AND his advise to Hillary on whether to keep Benghazi opened was a resounding YES.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

She didn't choose to put lives at risk. Her server was not an unsecure server, it was a secure server, for unclassified work JUST LIKE the State.gov email server that she bypassed and went with her own....

the State.gov server that all her employees worked on and right wingers say she should have used, was an UNCLASSIFIED email system.... classified top secret or secret emails should not have been on that system either, since it was UNCLASSIFIED. Her aids who forwarded this classified T/S info that they had been emailing each other on for a year before they sent it to her, should NEVER had been on the State.gov email system....


Normal people, without the Clinton last name in a top position as hers, would NEVER EVER in a million years been raked over the coals and dragged through the mud, like Hillary has been on this by the Republicans.... Colin Powell and Condi Rice were not and they too used private servers that ended up containing classified documents/info.
 
I have much better examples of bad judgment:

* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

But you just don't care, do you?
* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.
Well, when congress decides to cut your budget and you have 45,000 employees to look after....bad things can happen....hind sight is 20/20 ya know?

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

FYI-She didn't get any requests from Stevens, but her staff did...and even without all of his requests being filled, Stevens refused the extra security offered to him for his trip to Benghazi AND his advise to Hillary on whether to keep Benghazi opened was a resounding YES.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

She didn't choose to put lives at risk. Her server was not an unsecure server, it was a secure server, for unclassified work JUST LIKE the State.gov email server that she bypassed and went with her own....

the State.gov server that all her employees worked on and right wingers say she should have used, was an UNCLASSIFIED email system.... classified top secret or secret emails should not have been on that system either, since it was UNCLASSIFIED. Her aids who forwarded this classified T/S info that they had been emailing each other on for a year before they sent it to her, should NEVER had been on the State.gov email system....


Normal people, without the Clinton last name in a top position as hers, would NEVER EVER in a million years been raked over the coals and dragged through the mud, like Hillary has been on this by the Republicans.... Colin Powell and Condi Rice were not and they too used private servers that ended up containing classified documents/info.

The State Department headed by Mrs. Clinton had options with security. You can't blame the cuts in budget because all one has to do is to cut back on landscaping at the American Embassy in Paris and redirect monies to security in Libya. Or if one had a brain one could transfer security from Ottawa or London or Brussels and redeploy said security to Benghazi.

BUT the biggie here is that Clinton didn't want the optics of US security in Benghazi. Instead she hired local militias to guard the consulate. The February 17 Brigade.

I mean what could possibly go wrong?
 
I have much better examples of bad judgment:

* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

But you just don't care, do you?

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Trump did the right thing, while at War with Islam, in the area of the World that the Moslem's live, a leader must err on the side of safety.
 
I have much better examples of bad judgment:

* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

But you just don't care, do you?
* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.
Well, when congress decides to cut your budget and you have 45,000 employees to look after....bad things can happen....hind sight is 20/20 ya know?

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

FYI-She didn't get any requests from Stevens, but her staff did...and even without all of his requests being filled, Stevens refused the extra security offered to him for his trip to Benghazi AND his advise to Hillary on whether to keep Benghazi opened was a resounding YES.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

She didn't choose to put lives at risk. Her server was not an unsecure server, it was a secure server, for unclassified work JUST LIKE the State.gov email server that she bypassed and went with her own....

the State.gov server that all her employees worked on and right wingers say she should have used, was an UNCLASSIFIED email system.... classified top secret or secret emails should not have been on that system either, since it was UNCLASSIFIED. Her aids who forwarded this classified T/S info that they had been emailing each other on for a year before they sent it to her, should NEVER had been on the State.gov email system....


Normal people, without the Clinton last name in a top position as hers, would NEVER EVER in a million years been raked over the coals and dragged through the mud, like Hillary has been on this by the Republicans.... Colin Powell and Condi Rice were not and they too used private servers that ended up containing classified documents/info.

The State Department headed by Mrs. Clinton had options with security. You can't blame the cuts in budget because all one has to do is to cut back on landscaping at the American Embassy in Paris and redirect monies to security in Libya. Or if one had a brain one could transfer security from Ottawa or London or Brussels and redeploy said security to Benghazi.

BUT the biggie here is that Clinton didn't want the optics of US security in Benghazi. Instead she hired local militias to guard the consulate. The February 17 Brigade.

I mean what could possibly go wrong?
At the very same time there was no money for security, embassies around the world were getting new electric cars and charging stations.
 
Donald Trump doesn't wait for investigators to call missing EgyptAir flight act of terror - CNNPolitics.com

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump blamed terrorism for the EgyptAir Flight 804 crash in a tweet posted early Thursday morning, even though authorities are still investigating the cause of the crash.

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Isn't that sign of bad judgement?

If he is proving wrong, then it certainly was bad judgement, no doubt. However if he was right, it could be bad judgement, or it could indicate a deeper insight and the guts to express it. People will see it differently depending on their feelings for the big orange clown.

BTW- Did BO and Hellary show bad judgement when they first blamed the Benghazi attack on an Internet video? Or was that just a good ole fashion lie?
 
Muslim terrorists kill more Musiims than westerners dear.
Yes they do....in their civil wars going on.

But what does that have to do with the pilot downing a plane to terrorise? Terrorize whom and for what motive?
PLEASE tell me you're not being serious....
Care to answer my question?
You seem to think your in "the know" on terrorists motives.
I think your line of thinking is beyond dumb, therefore your question has no merit in this discussion.
:rolleyes:
Oh come on Gramps, everyone on this thread including the member I was initially responding to... and you jumped in on, has their opinion on what happened.... seriously, no need to try to demean me for asking a simple, VALID in my mind, question for the member quoting that the Pilot was associated with the Muslim Brotherhood and brought the plane down purposely, as a terrorist....as an act of terrorism....

It wasn't a stupid question at all....

As example if the poster had heard the pilot was Sunni and most of the passengers were Shiite, then his post would have a tad more credibility and would have been more understandable with what the motive could be....
I have not expressed an opinion on what happened. I actually agreed with rderp. Most of the powers that be seem to think it is terrorism.
MuSLIMES kill indiscriminately. Your OPINION doesn't change that fact.
 
I have much better examples of bad judgment:

* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

But you just don't care, do you?
* Hillary's decision to cut back on security spending in Libya even as the situation was getting worse.
Well, when congress decides to cut your budget and you have 45,000 employees to look after....bad things can happen....hind sight is 20/20 ya know?

* Hillary's failure to intervene to get at least some of Ambassador Stevens' rejected security requests fulfilled.

FYI-She didn't get any requests from Stevens, but her staff did...and even without all of his requests being filled, Stevens refused the extra security offered to him for his trip to Benghazi AND his advise to Hillary on whether to keep Benghazi opened was a resounding YES.

* Hillary's decision to put untold lives at risk by housing highly classified information on a private, unsecured server. Normal people would have paid a severe price for such reckless conduct.

She didn't choose to put lives at risk. Her server was not an unsecure server, it was a secure server, for unclassified work JUST LIKE the State.gov email server that she bypassed and went with her own....

the State.gov server that all her employees worked on and right wingers say she should have used, was an UNCLASSIFIED email system.... classified top secret or secret emails should not have been on that system either, since it was UNCLASSIFIED. Her aids who forwarded this classified T/S info that they had been emailing each other on for a year before they sent it to her, should NEVER had been on the State.gov email system....


Normal people, without the Clinton last name in a top position as hers, would NEVER EVER in a million years been raked over the coals and dragged through the mud, like Hillary has been on this by the Republicans.... Colin Powell and Condi Rice were not and they too used private servers that ended up containing classified documents/info.

The State Department headed by Mrs. Clinton had options with security. You can't blame the cuts in budget because all one has to do is to cut back on landscaping at the American Embassy in Paris and redirect monies to security in Libya. Or if one had a brain one could transfer security from Ottawa or London or Brussels and redeploy said security to Benghazi.

BUT the biggie here is that Clinton didn't want the optics of US security in Benghazi. Instead she hired local militias to guard the consulate. The February 17 Brigade.

I mean what could possibly go wrong?
At the very same time there was no money for security, embassies around the world were getting new electric cars and charging stations.

This issue of security still pisses me off to this day that Clinton and Obama cared more about optics than to provide true trained US security.

Benghazi Consulate was Tasked with Training Islamist Militia Members
The guards were members of the February 17 Brigade, a militia linked to the Muslim Brotherhood. Despite being hired to guard the consulate, the militia members were apparently supposed to be armed and trained by the US consulate. The State Department, instead of providing proper security, was using the consulate to train Islamist militia.

Benghazi Consulate was Tasked with Training Islamist Militia Members
 
This issue of security still pisses me off to this day that Clinton and Obama cared more about optics than to provide true trained US security.

Benghazi Consulate was Tasked with Training Islamist Militia Members
The guards were members of the February 17 Brigade, a militia linked to the Muslim Brotherhood. Despite being hired to guard the consulate, the militia members were apparently supposed to be armed and trained by the US consulate. The State Department, instead of providing proper security, was using the consulate to train Islamist militia.

Benghazi Consulate was Tasked with Training Islamist Militia Members

The next thing we'll hear that Stevens death happened during the training by friendly fire.
 
When John Roberts asked Jeff Sessions yesterday, if Trump's remarks ("It was terrorism, and if you think otherwise, you're kidding yourself" ) might be premature, Sessions said the actual problem is so much political correctness. Republicans are apparently now calling it "political correctness" to wait for the facts before making a declaratory statement.
What the hell, he's only going to be President. No need to make him spout facts. They're boring.

Please show us all where Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama stated any facts prior to, or even AFTER he took office.

I mean other than when he promised that the SEAS WERE GOING TO RECEDE AND THE EARTH WAS GOING TO HEAL!


Remember President Obama promised we would all save $2,500 a year on health insurance?

That he was going to close GITMO his first year in office? Then he learned he could not due to the nature of the savages incarcerated there?

If you like your doctor, you can keep them?

Obamacare won't cost you a single dime, not one dime more than you pay today?

If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your plan?



 
Well, I think the same evil geniuses that took down this Egyptian plane took down the Malaysian plane two years ago. They aren't going to admit responsibility anymore than they took responsibility for the Malaysian plane. They're hacking into the plane's computer and taking it down remotely, somehow. Just practicing.

A small inconspicuous bomb could easily have been placed on the flight deck four or five airports before the ill-fated flight.
 
Well, I think the same evil geniuses that took down this Egyptian plane took down the Malaysian plane two years ago. They aren't going to admit responsibility anymore than they took responsibility for the Malaysian plane. They're hacking into the plane's computer and taking it down remotely, somehow. Just practicing.
" They're hacking into the plane's computer and taking it down remotely, somehow."

Actually, that's something that I hadn't thought of.
Is it a possibility?
 
Who trotted out the video lie, stupid fuck?
The CIA did....it was one of their possibilities given to the administration.... ALL the different Benghazi Committees lead by Republicans in Congress have stated they found that it was in the CIA's assessment briefs.

FLAT OUT LIE!

PLEASE show your reliable source and link stating that the CIA said that the attack was caused by a video.

SHOW us or admit you are lying. Crooked Hillary Clinton said it was a planned terrorist attack that night in an email, through her illegal, unsecured server. Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama slept through the attack, as did Hillary Clinton. President Obama was up bright and early to jump on a flight to Las Vegas to host a fund raiser.
 
" They're hacking into the plane's computer and taking it down remotely, somehow."

Actually, that's something that I hadn't thought of.
Is it a possibility?

That belongs over on the loonie Conspiracy Theory forum.
 

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