Don't Be At All Surprised If This Election Was Stolen From Clinton, It Happened To Kerry in 2004

[Grizz]

Repub voter suppression tactics in states like N. Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona undoubtedly helped Trump win those states. Repub voter suppression tactics are well-documented. The N. Carolina Republican state legislature was recently condemned by the N. Carolina Court of Appeals for their voter suppression tactics against African Americans.

And don't be surprised if there was outright fraud in several rural areas in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. It's highly suspicious to me that Pennsylvania really "turned red" after being blue for over 20 years. I won't be surprised if Republican election officials "ran up the score" in several rural counties in these states. In other words, instead of Trump getting 70% - 75% of the vote in these rural counties, in reality maybe he only got 60% - 65% of the vote.

The same thing happened to John Kerry in Ohio in the 2004 election. Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote an excellent article about this in Rolling Stone several years ago. The evidence was very compelling. For example, in 80 rural counties in Ohio, a Democrat black African-American judge who supported gay marriage somehow received thousands of more votes than Kerry did. Down-ballot candidates of the same political party rarely, if ever, do better than the Presidential candidate. This was an outright indication of fraud perpetuated by Republican election officials throughout Ohio in 2004.

The 2004 exit polls in Ohio showed that Kerry defeated Bush 54% - 45%. There has never been any evidence showing that the exit polls were "wrong", despite widespread proclamations in the media.

It's important for all liberals to understand that Republicans are fascists and they simply do not believe in democracy. They will steal elections any way that they can.

Yes, Kerry won Ohio.

http://www.assassinationscience.com/Kerry_Won_Ohio.pdf

Thank you for the assist. Ken Blackwell, the Repug Sec of State in Ohio, stole the election from Kerry.

And Kerry also won New Mexico and Nevada, according to the exit polls.

I suspect that some intrepid reporter will one day reveal the truth of how this election was stolen from Clinton, as well.

According to the exit polls?
God you are an idiot.

 

[there4eyeM]

Repub voter suppression tactics in states like N. Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona undoubtedly helped Trump win those states. Repub voter suppression tactics are well-documented. The N. Carolina Republican state legislature was recently condemned by the N. Carolina Court of Appeals for their voter suppression tactics against African Americans.

And don't be surprised if there was outright fraud in several rural areas in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. It's highly suspicious to me that Pennsylvania really "turned red" after being blue for over 20 years. I won't be surprised if Republican election officials "ran up the score" in several rural counties in these states. In other words, instead of Trump getting 70% - 75% of the vote in these rural counties, in reality maybe he only got 60% - 65% of the vote.

The same thing happened to John Kerry in Ohio in the 2004 election. Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote an excellent article about this in Rolling Stone several years ago. The evidence was very compelling. For example, in 80 rural counties in Ohio, a Democrat black African-American judge who supported gay marriage somehow received thousands of more votes than Kerry did. Down-ballot candidates of the same political party rarely, if ever, do better than the Presidential candidate. This was an outright indication of fraud perpetuated by Republican election officials throughout Ohio in 2004.

The 2004 exit polls in Ohio showed that Kerry defeated Bush 54% - 45%. There has never been any evidence showing that the exit polls were "wrong", despite widespread proclamations in the media.

It's important for all liberals to understand that Republicans are fascists and they simply do not believe in democracy. They will steal elections any way that they can.

Kerry should be in prison right alongside your skank.

Would their cells be far from "W"'s and Cheyney's in this mythical prison?

 

[hjmick]

You know, it's been a long couple of days. Since Donald Dump won the election I've read a lot of posts on more than one message board, watched a lot of reporter and pundits on more than a couple of networks. Most of what I've read and watched has been brought to me by people who supported Hilliary Clinton. Needless to say, it's all doom and gloom from them. I've read and heard them "analyze" what happened, why Dump won, why Hilliary lost.

You know what I've read and heard so far? If you listen to them, do you know what happened?

The racists. They elected Dump. The middle aged, white, racist men. The middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. The pollsters? They misled the public. Now we have conspiratorial whispers of the Republicans stealing the election, the vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons (how much longer are they going to beat that horse?). These overwrought Clinton sycophants have a score of excuses and reasons why Hilliary lost, why the unexpected, the impossible happened.

And you know what?

Not a single one of the excuses or reasons centers in the candidate herself, the party, the current administration and the last eight years, how the campaign was run, nothing, not a single bit of inward analysis. No pause to remember that in 2008 she lost the primary to a relatively unknown, inexperienced freshman senator from Illinois who vote "present" more often than yay or nay. Couldn't it just be as simple as she is, was, a lousy choice? Sure, she won the popular vote, just not in the right places. Hell, they can't even blame the rise in healthcare rates just before the election? How about how rare it is for an incumbent party to win the White House after holding it for eight years? No, it's the middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. Because we all know there are enough of them to elect Charles Manson to the office.

Give me a break. Take a look in the mirror. Consider, if even ever so briefly, that the bulk of the problem just might have been in your own house. Then maybe you can fix it for 2020.


Just my thoughts. I didn't vote for either of them, my conscience wouldn't let me. And I sleep just fine, thank you...

 

[kaz]

Repub voter suppression tactics in states like N. Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona undoubtedly helped Trump win those states. Repub voter suppression tactics are well-documented. The N. Carolina Republican state legislature was recently condemned by the N. Carolina Court of Appeals for their voter suppression tactics against African Americans.

And don't be surprised if there was outright fraud in several rural areas in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. It's highly suspicious to me that Pennsylvania really "turned red" after being blue for over 20 years. I won't be surprised if Republican election officials "ran up the score" in several rural counties in these states. In other words, instead of Trump getting 70% - 75% of the vote in these rural counties, in reality maybe he only got 60% - 65% of the vote.

The same thing happened to John Kerry in Ohio in the 2004 election. Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote an excellent article about this in Rolling Stone several years ago. The evidence was very compelling. For example, in 80 rural counties in Ohio, a Democrat black African-American judge who supported gay marriage somehow received thousands of more votes than Kerry did. Down-ballot candidates of the same political party rarely, if ever, do better than the Presidential candidate. This was an outright indication of fraud perpetuated by Republican election officials throughout Ohio in 2004.

The 2004 exit polls in Ohio showed that Kerry defeated Bush 54% - 45%. There has never been any evidence showing that the exit polls were "wrong", despite widespread proclamations in the media.

It's important for all liberals to understand that Republicans are fascists and they simply do not believe in democracy. They will steal elections any way that they can.

Kerry should be in prison right alongside your skank.

go to live in russia or china....they love your kind

we don't throw people in prison here without being charged with a crime and found guilty of that crime....

Where did he say they would not receive a fair trial before they're tossed in jail?

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

sounds like an excuse....someone once said..."elections have consequences"...one of those consequences is,you are stuck with who gets elected....so pull up your underoos and deal with this guy like the rest of us have too for the next 4 years and quit your whining......

Elections have consequences only if they're legitimate. This election was not.

And even when Obama won in 2008 and 2012, Republican officials in several states were suppressing the vote of minorities.

positive proof of that suppressing?

All too easy, not that you really care about evidence of voter suppression:

Appeals court strikes down North Carolina’s voter-ID law

What I was referring to:

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with allegations that North Carolina’s omnibus bill selectively chose voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

“The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision” and “impose cures for problems that did not exist,” Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. “Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State’s true motivation.”

Are you suggesting there was a massive voter suppression scheme going on that kept Hillary from winning?

Yes, read my opening post.

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

Repub voter suppression tactics in states like N. Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona undoubtedly helped Trump win those states. Repub voter suppression tactics are well-documented. The N. Carolina Republican state legislature was recently condemned by the N. Carolina Court of Appeals for their voter suppression tactics against African Americans.

And don't be surprised if there was outright fraud in several rural areas in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. It's highly suspicious to me that Pennsylvania really "turned red" after being blue for over 20 years. I won't be surprised if Republican election officials "ran up the score" in several rural counties in these states. In other words, instead of Trump getting 70% - 75% of the vote in these rural counties, in reality maybe he only got 60% - 65% of the vote.

The same thing happened to John Kerry in Ohio in the 2004 election. Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote an excellent article about this in Rolling Stone several years ago. The evidence was very compelling. For example, in 80 rural counties in Ohio, a Democrat black African-American judge who supported gay marriage somehow received thousands of more votes than Kerry did. Down-ballot candidates of the same political party rarely, if ever, do better than the Presidential candidate. This was an outright indication of fraud perpetuated by Republican election officials throughout Ohio in 2004.

The 2004 exit polls in Ohio showed that Kerry defeated Bush 54% - 45%. There has never been any evidence showing that the exit polls were "wrong", despite widespread proclamations in the media.

It's important for all liberals to understand that Republicans are fascists and they simply do not believe in democracy. They will steal elections any way that they can.

Kerry should be in prison right alongside your skank.

go to live in russia or china....they love your kind

we don't throw people in prison here without being charged with a crime and found guilty of that crime....

That could very well change under Trump.

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

sounds like an excuse....someone once said..."elections have consequences"...one of those consequences is,you are stuck with who gets elected....so pull up your underoos and deal with this guy like the rest of us have too for the next 4 years and quit your whining......

Elections have consequences only if they're legitimate. This election was not.

And even when Obama won in 2008 and 2012, Republican officials in several states were suppressing the vote of minorities.

positive proof of that suppressing?

All too easy, not that you really care about evidence of voter suppression:

Appeals court strikes down North Carolina’s voter-ID law

What I was referring to:

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with allegations that North Carolina’s omnibus bill selectively chose voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

“The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision” and “impose cures for problems that did not exist,” Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. “Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State’s true motivation.”

how does any of that affect blacks more than anyone else. none of that is voter suppression, they all still had every bit as much of a chance to vote as anyone else.
The voter ID? that is not a problem, those same negros that are genetically too stupid to obtain an ID (democrats words not mine) seem to be able to come up with whatever ID is needed to apply for assistance, buy liquor and/or drive. Yet they cant figure out how to get an ID.
Its all bullshit and you know it, the only thing it might suppress is the cheating ass illegals that the democrats tend to love so much.
come up with something real, were a single eligible legal person was turned away for no other reason than being a democrat.
You cant. So take you pansy ass cheating self back under the rock for now because, adults are running the country again, be a good little democrat and do as your told.

So why do you think blacks specifically won't a get voter ID? Are you saying you think blacks are too stupid or too lazy to do it?

Why are voter IDs the only thing your dumb ass is focused on? It's indisputable that Repug election officials have removed voting machines in Democratic precincts in order to create massive lines, so people go home without voting. Obviously, you don't want to discuss this because you have no bullshit Repug talking point to counter this fact.

 

[TheDude]

Don't be surprised if the OP woke up this morning with his butt-hurt.

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

Repub voter suppression tactics in states like N. Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona undoubtedly helped Trump win those states. Repub voter suppression tactics are well-documented. The N. Carolina Republican state legislature was recently condemned by the N. Carolina Court of Appeals for their voter suppression tactics against African Americans.

And don't be surprised if there was outright fraud in several rural areas in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. It's highly suspicious to me that Pennsylvania really "turned red" after being blue for over 20 years. I won't be surprised if Republican election officials "ran up the score" in several rural counties in these states. In other words, instead of Trump getting 70% - 75% of the vote in these rural counties, in reality maybe he only got 60% - 65% of the vote.

The same thing happened to John Kerry in Ohio in the 2004 election. Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote an excellent article about this in Rolling Stone several years ago. The evidence was very compelling. For example, in 80 rural counties in Ohio, a Democrat black African-American judge who supported gay marriage somehow received thousands of more votes than Kerry did. Down-ballot candidates of the same political party rarely, if ever, do better than the Presidential candidate. This was an outright indication of fraud perpetuated by Republican election officials throughout Ohio in 2004.

The 2004 exit polls in Ohio showed that Kerry defeated Bush 54% - 45%. There has never been any evidence showing that the exit polls were "wrong", despite widespread proclamations in the media.

It's important for all liberals to understand that Republicans are fascists and they simply do not believe in democracy. They will steal elections any way that they can.

Yes, Kerry won Ohio.

http://www.assassinationscience.com/Kerry_Won_Ohio.pdf

Thank you for the assist. Ken Blackwell, the Repug Sec of State in Ohio, stole the election from Kerry.

And Kerry also won New Mexico and Nevada, according to the exit polls.

I suspect that some intrepid reporter will one day reveal the truth of how this election was stolen from Clinton, as well.

According to the exit polls?
God you are an idiot.

The exit polls are the only results that are truly accurate, which is why the United Nations and the media use them to monitor elections in Third World countries. Obviously, we need the United Nations to monitor elections in this country because our democracy is completely broken.

Exit polls is how we know when fraud occurs, which is obviously what happened with Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

 

[kaz]

Elections have consequences only if they're legitimate. This election was not.

And even when Obama won in 2008 and 2012, Republican officials in several states were suppressing the vote of minorities.

positive proof of that suppressing?

All too easy, not that you really care about evidence of voter suppression:

Appeals court strikes down North Carolina’s voter-ID law

What I was referring to:

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with allegations that North Carolina’s omnibus bill selectively chose voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

“The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision” and “impose cures for problems that did not exist,” Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. “Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State’s true motivation.”

how does any of that affect blacks more than anyone else. none of that is voter suppression, they all still had every bit as much of a chance to vote as anyone else.
The voter ID? that is not a problem, those same negros that are genetically too stupid to obtain an ID (democrats words not mine) seem to be able to come up with whatever ID is needed to apply for assistance, buy liquor and/or drive. Yet they cant figure out how to get an ID.
Its all bullshit and you know it, the only thing it might suppress is the cheating ass illegals that the democrats tend to love so much.
come up with something real, were a single eligible legal person was turned away for no other reason than being a democrat.
You cant. So take you pansy ass cheating self back under the rock for now because, adults are running the country again, be a good little democrat and do as your told.

So why do you think blacks specifically won't a get voter ID? Are you saying you think blacks are too stupid or too lazy to do it?

Why are voter IDs the only thing your dumb ass is focused on? It's indisputable that Repug election officials have removed voting machines in Democratic precincts in order to create massive lines, so people go home without voting. Obviously, you don't want to discuss this because you have no bullshit Repug talking point to counter this fact.

By "indisputable" you mean you believe it because you want to

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Trump won get over it.

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

You know, it's been a long couple of days. Since Donald Dump won the election I've read a lot of posts on more than one message board, watched a lot of reporter and pundits on more than a couple of networks. Most of what I've read and watched has been brought to me by people who supported Hilliary Clinton. Needless to say, it's all doom and gloom from them. I've read and heard them "analyze" what happened, why Dump won, why Hilliary lost.

You know what I've read and heard so far? If you listen to them, do you know what happened?

The racists. They elected Dump. The middle aged, white, racist men. The middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. The pollsters? They misled the public. Now we have conspiratorial whispers of the Republicans stealing the election, the vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons (how much longer are they going to beat that horse?). These overwrought Clinton sycophants have a score of excuses and reasons why Hilliary lost, why the unexpected, the impossible happened.

And you know what?

Not a single one of the excuses or reasons centers in the candidate herself, the party, the current administration and the last eight years, how the campaign was run, nothing, not a single bit of inward analysis. No pause to remember that in 2008 she lost the primary to a relatively unknown, inexperienced freshman senator from Illinois who vote "present" more often than yay or nay. Couldn't it just be as simple as she is, was, a lousy choice? Sure, she won the popular vote, just not in the right places. Hell, they can't even blame the rise in healthcare rates just before the election? How about how rare it is for an incumbent party to win the White House after holding it for eight years? No, it's the middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. Because we all know there are enough of them to elect Charles Manson to the office.

Give me a break. Take a look in the mirror. Consider, if even ever so briefly, that the bulk of the problem just might have been in your own house. Then maybe you can fix it for 2020.


Just my thoughts. I didn't vote for either of them, my conscience wouldn't let me. And I sleep just fine, thank you...

Whatever criticism you have of Obama, it pales in comparison to Bush's disastrous presidency. Let's do a quick review of Bush's presidency -- Two disastrous wars, the disastrous handling of Hurricane Katrina, massive tax cuts for the rich that didn't do a damn thing to stimulate our economy from 2001 - 2009, and the worse economic meltdown since the Great Depression in 2008. Whatever whining you want to do about Obama, NOTHING compares to the disaster that Bush was. The only one who could possibly top Bush as the worst President in history is Trump.

You Repugs have a short memory and are fucking incomprehensibly stupid. And now you have set up this country for destruction because your racist beliefs are more important to you than anything. Congratulations, goober fuckhole.

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

positive proof of that suppressing?

All too easy, not that you really care about evidence of voter suppression:

Appeals court strikes down North Carolina’s voter-ID law

What I was referring to:

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with allegations that North Carolina’s omnibus bill selectively chose voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

“The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision” and “impose cures for problems that did not exist,” Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. “Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State’s true motivation.”

how does any of that affect blacks more than anyone else. none of that is voter suppression, they all still had every bit as much of a chance to vote as anyone else.
The voter ID? that is not a problem, those same negros that are genetically too stupid to obtain an ID (democrats words not mine) seem to be able to come up with whatever ID is needed to apply for assistance, buy liquor and/or drive. Yet they cant figure out how to get an ID.
Its all bullshit and you know it, the only thing it might suppress is the cheating ass illegals that the democrats tend to love so much.
come up with something real, were a single eligible legal person was turned away for no other reason than being a democrat.
You cant. So take you pansy ass cheating self back under the rock for now because, adults are running the country again, be a good little democrat and do as your told.

So why do you think blacks specifically won't a get voter ID? Are you saying you think blacks are too stupid or too lazy to do it?

Why are voter IDs the only thing your dumb ass is focused on? It's indisputable that Repug election officials have removed voting machines in Democratic precincts in order to create massive lines, so people go home without voting. Obviously, you don't want to discuss this because you have no bullshit Repug talking point to counter this fact.

By "indisputable" you mean you believe it because you want to

No, because the North Carolina 4th Circuit Court said so, goober.

And trust me, I'm going to believe them before I believe an unsophisticated, unremarkable piece of shit Repug goober such as yourself. Caveman such as yourself don't get to decide whether injustice is occurring or not, fuckhole.

 

[Dreadnaught1968]

Repub voter suppression tactics in states like N. Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona undoubtedly helped Trump win those states. Repub voter suppression tactics are well-documented. The N. Carolina Republican state legislature was recently condemned by the N. Carolina Court of Appeals for their voter suppression tactics against African Americans.

And don't be surprised if there was outright fraud in several rural areas in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. It's highly suspicious to me that Pennsylvania really "turned red" after being blue for over 20 years. I won't be surprised if Republican election officials "ran up the score" in several rural counties in these states. In other words, instead of Trump getting 70% - 75% of the vote in these rural counties, in reality maybe he only got 60% - 65% of the vote.

The same thing happened to John Kerry in Ohio in the 2004 election. Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote an excellent article about this in Rolling Stone several years ago. The evidence was very compelling. For example, in 80 rural counties in Ohio, a Democrat black African-American judge who supported gay marriage somehow received thousands of more votes than Kerry did. Down-ballot candidates of the same political party rarely, if ever, do better than the Presidential candidate. This was an outright indication of fraud perpetuated by Republican election officials throughout Ohio in 2004.

The 2004 exit polls in Ohio showed that Kerry defeated Bush 54% - 45%. There has never been any evidence showing that the exit polls were "wrong", despite widespread proclamations in the media.

It's important for all liberals to understand that Republicans are fascists and they simply do not believe in democracy. They will steal elections any way that they can.

Yes, Kerry won Ohio.

http://www.assassinationscience.com/Kerry_Won_Ohio.pdf

Thank you for the assist. Ken Blackwell, the Repug Sec of State in Ohio, stole the election from Kerry.

And Kerry also won New Mexico and Nevada, according to the exit polls.

I suspect that some intrepid reporter will one day reveal the truth of how this election was stolen from Clinton, as well.

According to the exit polls?
God you are an idiot.

The exit polls are the only results that are truly accurate, which is why the United Nations and the media use them to monitor elections in Third World countries. Obviously, we need the United Nations to monitor elections in this country because our democracy is completely broken.

Exit polls is how we know when fraud occurs, which is obviously what happened with Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

So who's to say people didn't lie to the exit polls? Kerry LOST Ohio. Get over it.

 

[kaz]

All too easy, not that you really care about evidence of voter suppression:

Appeals court strikes down North Carolina’s voter-ID law

What I was referring to:

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with allegations that North Carolina’s omnibus bill selectively chose voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

“The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision” and “impose cures for problems that did not exist,” Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. “Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State’s true motivation.”

how does any of that affect blacks more than anyone else. none of that is voter suppression, they all still had every bit as much of a chance to vote as anyone else.
The voter ID? that is not a problem, those same negros that are genetically too stupid to obtain an ID (democrats words not mine) seem to be able to come up with whatever ID is needed to apply for assistance, buy liquor and/or drive. Yet they cant figure out how to get an ID.
Its all bullshit and you know it, the only thing it might suppress is the cheating ass illegals that the democrats tend to love so much.
come up with something real, were a single eligible legal person was turned away for no other reason than being a democrat.
You cant. So take you pansy ass cheating self back under the rock for now because, adults are running the country again, be a good little democrat and do as your told.

So why do you think blacks specifically won't a get voter ID? Are you saying you think blacks are too stupid or too lazy to do it?

Why are voter IDs the only thing your dumb ass is focused on? It's indisputable that Repug election officials have removed voting machines in Democratic precincts in order to create massive lines, so people go home without voting. Obviously, you don't want to discuss this because you have no bullshit Repug talking point to counter this fact.

By "indisputable" you mean you believe it because you want to

No, because the North Carolina 4th Circuit Court said so, goober.

And trust me, I'm going to believe them before I believe an unsophisticated, unremarkable piece of shit Repug goober such as yourself. Caveman such as yourself don't get to decide whether injustice is occurring or not, fuckhole.

I'm not a Republican, and the court did not say that. Not your day, is it?

 

[kaz]

Repub voter suppression tactics in states like N. Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona undoubtedly helped Trump win those states. Repub voter suppression tactics are well-documented. The N. Carolina Republican state legislature was recently condemned by the N. Carolina Court of Appeals for their voter suppression tactics against African Americans.

And don't be surprised if there was outright fraud in several rural areas in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. It's highly suspicious to me that Pennsylvania really "turned red" after being blue for over 20 years. I won't be surprised if Republican election officials "ran up the score" in several rural counties in these states. In other words, instead of Trump getting 70% - 75% of the vote in these rural counties, in reality maybe he only got 60% - 65% of the vote.

The same thing happened to John Kerry in Ohio in the 2004 election. Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote an excellent article about this in Rolling Stone several years ago. The evidence was very compelling. For example, in 80 rural counties in Ohio, a Democrat black African-American judge who supported gay marriage somehow received thousands of more votes than Kerry did. Down-ballot candidates of the same political party rarely, if ever, do better than the Presidential candidate. This was an outright indication of fraud perpetuated by Republican election officials throughout Ohio in 2004.

The 2004 exit polls in Ohio showed that Kerry defeated Bush 54% - 45%. There has never been any evidence showing that the exit polls were "wrong", despite widespread proclamations in the media.

It's important for all liberals to understand that Republicans are fascists and they simply do not believe in democracy. They will steal elections any way that they can.

Yes, Kerry won Ohio.

http://www.assassinationscience.com/Kerry_Won_Ohio.pdf

Thank you for the assist. Ken Blackwell, the Repug Sec of State in Ohio, stole the election from Kerry.

And Kerry also won New Mexico and Nevada, according to the exit polls.

I suspect that some intrepid reporter will one day reveal the truth of how this election was stolen from Clinton, as well.

According to the exit polls?
God you are an idiot.

The exit polls are the only results that are truly accurate, which is why the United Nations and the media use them to monitor elections in Third World countries. Obviously, we need the United Nations to monitor elections in this country because our democracy is completely broken.

Exit polls is how we know when fraud occurs, which is obviously what happened with Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

I live in North Carolina and didn't answer a single poll. A lot of us don't. I voted for Johnson. You know that because I told you. The vote counters know that because my ballot is there. Neither pre vote nor exit vote polls know that because I told them I'm not answering.

This is the leftist tactic, you want open voting so you can thug people into voting the way you want. Unions try to do it all the time

 

[Harry Dresden]

You know, it's been a long couple of days. Since Donald Dump won the election I've read a lot of posts on more than one message board, watched a lot of reporter and pundits on more than a couple of networks. Most of what I've read and watched has been brought to me by people who supported Hilliary Clinton. Needless to say, it's all doom and gloom from them. I've read and heard them "analyze" what happened, why Dump won, why Hilliary lost.

You know what I've read and heard so far? If you listen to them, do you know what happened?

The racists. They elected Dump. The middle aged, white, racist men. The middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. The pollsters? They misled the public. Now we have conspiratorial whispers of the Republicans stealing the election, the vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons (how much longer are they going to beat that horse?). These overwrought Clinton sycophants have a score of excuses and reasons why Hilliary lost, why the unexpected, the impossible happened.

And you know what?

Not a single one of the excuses or reasons centers in the candidate herself, the party, the current administration and the last eight years, how the campaign was run, nothing, not a single bit of inward analysis. No pause to remember that in 2008 she lost the primary to a relatively unknown, inexperienced freshman senator from Illinois who vote "present" more often than yay or nay. Couldn't it just be as simple as she is, was, a lousy choice? Sure, she won the popular vote, just not in the right places. Hell, they can't even blame the rise in healthcare rates just before the election? How about how rare it is for an incumbent party to win the White House after holding it for eight years? No, it's the middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. Because we all know there are enough of them to elect Charles Manson to the office.

Give me a break. Take a look in the mirror. Consider, if even ever so briefly, that the bulk of the problem just might have been in your own house. Then maybe you can fix it for 2020.


Just my thoughts. I didn't vote for either of them, my conscience wouldn't let me. And I sleep just fine, thank you...

Whatever criticism you have of Obama, it pales in comparison to Bush's disastrous presidency. Let's do a quick review of Bush's presidency -- Two disastrous wars, the disastrous handling of Hurricane Katrina, massive tax cuts for the rich that didn't do a damn thing to stimulate our economy from 2001 - 2009, and the worse economic meltdown since the Great Depression in 2008. Whatever whining you want to do about Obama, NOTHING compares to the disaster that Bush was. The only one who could possibly top Bush as the worst President in history is Trump.

You Repugs have a short memory and are fucking incomprehensibly stupid. And now you have set up this country for destruction because your racist beliefs are more important to you than anything. Congratulations, goober fuckhole.

Mick when did you become a racist republican?.....

 

[hjmick]

You know, it's been a long couple of days. Since Donald Dump won the election I've read a lot of posts on more than one message board, watched a lot of reporter and pundits on more than a couple of networks. Most of what I've read and watched has been brought to me by people who supported Hilliary Clinton. Needless to say, it's all doom and gloom from them. I've read and heard them "analyze" what happened, why Dump won, why Hilliary lost.

You know what I've read and heard so far? If you listen to them, do you know what happened?

The racists. They elected Dump. The middle aged, white, racist men. The middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. The pollsters? They misled the public. Now we have conspiratorial whispers of the Republicans stealing the election, the vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons (how much longer are they going to beat that horse?). These overwrought Clinton sycophants have a score of excuses and reasons why Hilliary lost, why the unexpected, the impossible happened.

And you know what?

Not a single one of the excuses or reasons centers in the candidate herself, the party, the current administration and the last eight years, how the campaign was run, nothing, not a single bit of inward analysis. No pause to remember that in 2008 she lost the primary to a relatively unknown, inexperienced freshman senator from Illinois who vote "present" more often than yay or nay. Couldn't it just be as simple as she is, was, a lousy choice? Sure, she won the popular vote, just not in the right places. Hell, they can't even blame the rise in healthcare rates just before the election? How about how rare it is for an incumbent party to win the White House after holding it for eight years? No, it's the middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. Because we all know there are enough of them to elect Charles Manson to the office.

Give me a break. Take a look in the mirror. Consider, if even ever so briefly, that the bulk of the problem just might have been in your own house. Then maybe you can fix it for 2020.


Just my thoughts. I didn't vote for either of them, my conscience wouldn't let me. And I sleep just fine, thank you...

Whatever criticism you have of Obama, it pales in comparison to Bush's disastrous presidency. Let's do a quick review of Bush's presidency -- Two disastrous wars, the disastrous handling of Hurricane Katrina, massive tax cuts for the rich that didn't do a damn thing to stimulate our economy from 2001 - 2009, and the worse economic meltdown since the Great Depression in 2008. Whatever whining you want to do about Obama, NOTHING compares to the disaster that Bush was. The only one who could possibly top Bush as the worst President in history is Trump.

You Repugs have a short memory and are fucking incomprehensibly stupid. And now you have set up this country for destruction because your racist beliefs are more important to you than anything. Congratulations, goober fuckhole.

Mick when did you become a racist republican?.....

Every time I post something that runs counter to a liberal's ideas and belief system...

It never matters that I didn't support or vote for Trump, it never matters that I vote for the candidate I think is best for the job regardless of their political affiliation, it never matters that I do my utmost to be fair to all sides, it never matters that I have on numerous occasions defended President Obama, it never matter that I have never once posted anything that could remotely be considered racist and have, in fact, attacked ignorant racist on this very board on multiple occasions.

It never matters that I am perhaps one of the most moderate and even tempered member on the board.

All of that goes out the window when ignorance and hate like we see with Dubya Da Last Repug Prez is in play... because all the matters to him and his ilk is that everyone must think as they do... to do otherwise makes you a racist...

 

[hjmick]

You know, it's been a long couple of days. Since Donald Dump won the election I've read a lot of posts on more than one message board, watched a lot of reporter and pundits on more than a couple of networks. Most of what I've read and watched has been brought to me by people who supported Hilliary Clinton. Needless to say, it's all doom and gloom from them. I've read and heard them "analyze" what happened, why Dump won, why Hilliary lost.

You know what I've read and heard so far? If you listen to them, do you know what happened?

The racists. They elected Dump. The middle aged, white, racist men. The middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. The pollsters? They misled the public. Now we have conspiratorial whispers of the Republicans stealing the election, the vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons (how much longer are they going to beat that horse?). These overwrought Clinton sycophants have a score of excuses and reasons why Hilliary lost, why the unexpected, the impossible happened.

And you know what?

Not a single one of the excuses or reasons centers in the candidate herself, the party, the current administration and the last eight years, how the campaign was run, nothing, not a single bit of inward analysis. No pause to remember that in 2008 she lost the primary to a relatively unknown, inexperienced freshman senator from Illinois who vote "present" more often than yay or nay. Couldn't it just be as simple as she is, was, a lousy choice? Sure, she won the popular vote, just not in the right places. Hell, they can't even blame the rise in healthcare rates just before the election? How about how rare it is for an incumbent party to win the White House after holding it for eight years? No, it's the middle aged, white, misogynist, racist men. Because we all know there are enough of them to elect Charles Manson to the office.

Give me a break. Take a look in the mirror. Consider, if even ever so briefly, that the bulk of the problem just might have been in your own house. Then maybe you can fix it for 2020.


Just my thoughts. I didn't vote for either of them, my conscience wouldn't let me. And I sleep just fine, thank you...

Whatever criticism you have of Obama, it pales in comparison to Bush's disastrous presidency. Let's do a quick review of Bush's presidency -- Two disastrous wars, the disastrous handling of Hurricane Katrina, massive tax cuts for the rich that didn't do a damn thing to stimulate our economy from 2001 - 2009, and the worse economic meltdown since the Great Depression in 2008. Whatever whining you want to do about Obama, NOTHING compares to the disaster that Bush was. The only one who could possibly top Bush as the worst President in history is Trump.

You Repugs have a short memory and are fucking incomprehensibly stupid. And now you have set up this country for destruction because your racist beliefs are more important to you than anything. Congratulations, goober fuckhole.

Wow, did I strike a nerve or what? Did that sting a little?

Too scared to look any deeper than your narrative, got it. You are dismissed.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Funny I dont remember any lib questioning the 100% vote total in some areas for Obama