Dow headed for the worst April since the Great Depression

[kyzr]

What I am saying to you is that no matter how everything shakes out, our economy, the stock market and our country will be in better shape than it was before this all started. Isn’t that all that matters?

Trump will be known as the "transition president".
Transitioning from unfair trade to fair trade.
Transitioning from the US being "world's cop" to more inward looking
Transitioning from a biased MSM to a more neutral MSM
Transitioning from open borders to "legal immigration"
Transitioning from Biden's wasteful out-of-control government spending to implementing modern cost-controls.
Transitioning from a DEI and "woke" military to a color-blind military based on merit

The big one will be if Trump and Republicans can go from Biden's $2T deficit to a balanced budget, a very heavy lift.

 

[DBA]

Things will be largely unchanged.

So now we are back to things will be unchanged instead of doom and gloom?

I can guarantee you that we will have a net gain in tariff revenue when this is all done. I can also tell you with 80% assuredly that we will not see any abnormal or significant inflation. The markets will reach and exceed where they were when Trump took office. How will that not be better? For those ignorant enough to sell their stock because they bought into the false narrative sewed by the left, they will be worse off, but maybe that will be a wake up call to stop putting their faith in partisan hacks.

 

[pknopp]

So now we are back to things will be unchanged instead of doom and gloom?

Trump is being reined in.

I can guarantee you that we will have a net gain in tariff revenue when this is all done.

Higher taxes.......after all that is what he ran on right?

I can also tell you with 80% assuredly that we will not see any abnormal or significant inflation. The markets will reach and exceed where they were when Trump took office. How will that not be better? For those ignorant enough to sell their stock because they bought into the false narrative sewed by the left, they will be worse off, but maybe that will be a wake up call to stop putting their faith in partisan hacks.

Musk is history and Trump has been neutered. Status Quo has won.

 

[JohnDB]

Oddly I can find no such article to back that up.

 

[DBA]

Trump is being reined in.

Ah, the excuses start. No, he isn’t being reigned in. He is doing what he planned all along. You guys were just not smart enough to get it, despite ME and others telling you over and over that was the plan all along. He had to get these countries to the table. He succeeded. Believe it or not, they won’t respond to the “pretty please” method.

Higher taxes.......after all that is what he ran on right?

Who said anything about higher taxes? He will extend the TCJA that he signed in 2017. Taxes will remain the same instead of going up. They may even be lowered in some cases.

Musk is history and Trump has been neutered. Status Quo has won.

LOL…We will be in much better shape than the status quo.

You guys are starting with your excuses much earlier than I thought. I figured you would stick with the doom and gloom a little longer.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[pknopp]

Do you understand words and their meaning?

First one can not believe a word out of anyone in the Trump administration but here is what you said.

India already has inked a deal.

We get access to their markets and they can sell to ours....their telemarketing scams however is the fly in the ointment.

Your quote does not back that. All it says is they have agreed to discuss a deal.

 

[pknopp]

Ah, the excuses start. No, he isn’t being reigned in. He is doing what he planned all along. You guys were just not smart enough to get it, despite ME and others telling you over and over that was the plan all along. He had to get these countries to the table. He succeeded. Believe it or not, they won’t respond to the “pretty please” method.



Who said anything about higher taxes? He will extend the TCJA that he signed in 2017. Taxes will remain the same instead of going up. They may even be lowered in some cases.

Tariff's are a tax whether you want to own up to it or not.

LOL…We will be in much better shape than the status quo.

You guys are starting with your excuses much earlier than I thought. I figured you would stick with the doom and gloom a little longer.

Bugger off. I am one person.

 

[JohnDB]

Do you understand words and their meaning?

First one can not believe a word out of anyone in the Trump administration but here is what you said.




Your quote does not back that. All it says is they have agreed to discuss a deal.

It's all over but the photo op....

You just crying because you got proven wrong AGAIN.
Lose the TDS....you'll feel better I promise.

 

[pknopp]

It's all over but the photo op....

You just crying because you got proven wrong AGAIN.
Lose the TDS....you'll feel better I promise.

I remember last time when Trump went to China to negotiate a deal and they sent him away with his tail between his legs and it ended up costing taxpayers billions and farmers lost customers.

Trump is incapable of learning any lesson.

But all the same, it is you that stated the bogus claim.

 

[Marener]

I didn’t say you shouldn’t have the bulk of your money invested in the market. But having cash on the side to buy further into the market when great deals suddenly arise makes perfect sense. Every seasoned investor does this. You don’t want to have to sell something you weren’t planning on dumping to buy the bargain. You want to be able to buy the bargain straight up.

You can do what you want and certainly plenty of people do try to time the market.

But data shows consistently, and has for decades, that those who try to time the market miss out on the day to day gains in the market while their money sits on the sideline waiting for the "bargain".

An investor who knows the data and research doesn't leave money on the sidelines. If they have money to invest, they invest.

 

[JohnDB]

You can do what you want and certainly plenty of people do try to time the market.

But data shows consistently, and has for decades, that those who try to time the market miss out on the day to day gains in the market while their money sits on the sideline waiting for the "bargain".

An investor who knows the data and research doesn't leave money on the sidelines. If they have money to invest, they invest.

Yes....and there are some great bonds available to purchase at 6-8% depending on your flavor of risk.

 

[Marener]

Actually, the last couple of years, cash sitting on the side was earning 5%. Pretty decent to be paid while you sit and wait for a good opportunity.

During the last 2 years, the SP500 made over 20%. Even with the most recent market dip, that money sitting on the sidelines is doing much worse than money invested.

 

[JohnDB]

During the last 2 years, the SP500 made over 20%. Even with the most recent market dip, that money sitting on the sidelines is doing much worse than money invested.

And with quarterly compounding interest 6-8% interest/returns over 2 years looks much better when risk is factored in over the S&P.

Risk cost with the S&P is around 7-9% annually.

Meaning you have to subtract that from gains estimated.

 

[DBA]

Tariff's are a tax whether you want to own up to it or not.

They can be, but not necessarily. Importers and foreign manufacturers will only pass along tariffs to the point where it doesn’t hurt their new profits. Sales drop as prices increase, ergo, profit margins drop as prices increase.

 

[pknopp]

They can be, but not necessarily. Importers and foreign manufacturers will only pass along tariffs to the point where it doesn’t hurt their new profits. Sales drop as prices increase, ergo, profit margins drop as prices increase.

Same as tax increases.

 

[DBA]

During the last 2 years, the SP500 made over 20%. Even with the most recent market dip, that money sitting on the sidelines is doing much worse than money invested.

Risk is a component that must be taken into account.

Arguing that you should not have some money on the sideline waiting to buy a bargain is just ridiculous, particularly when that money can earn 4-5% interest risk free.

 

[DBA]

Same as tax increases.

Not sure what you are talking about. I just told you that prices for non-essentials will not necessarily rise to the level of any tariff increase because sales would be negatively affected, decreasing profit margins. Businesses don’t increase the price of their product to the point where their profits decrease.

 

[pknopp]

Not sure what you are talking about. I just told you that prices for non-essentials will not necessarily rise to the level of any tariff increase because sales would be negatively affected, decreasing profit margins. Businesses don’t increase the price of their product to the point where their profits decrease.

Same as a tax increase. A tax is a tax is a tax.

 

[DBA]

You can do what you want and certainly plenty of people do try to time the market.

But data shows consistently, and has for decades, that those who try to time the market miss out on the day to day gains in the market while their money sits on the sideline waiting for the "bargain".

An investor who knows the data and research doesn't leave money on the sidelines. If they have money to invest, they invest.

Wrong, not when the money on the sidelines is earning 4-5%. Sure, sticking it in your sock or under your mattress wouldn’t be a great idea, but it makes perfect sense to have money that is already making money ready to invest in the market without having to sell.

I have done very well in the markets. I am “rich” by Democratic standards. I am open to new ideas that make sense. This one doesn’t.