Dow headed for the worst April since the Great Depression

[DBA]

Same as a tax increase. A tax is a tax is a tax.

Let me make it simpler for you. A business will not raise their price at all if it negatively affects their profits.

 

[Marener]

Wrong, not when the money on the sidelines is earning 4-5%. Sure, sticking it in your sock or under your mattress wouldn’t be a great idea, but it makes perfect sense to have money that is already making money ready to invest in the market without having to sell.

I have done very well in the markets. I am “rich” by Democratic standards. I am open to new ideas that make sense. This one doesn’t.

While that money was sitting on the sidelines making 5%, the SP500 was making 20-25%.

If you had invested it instead of sitting on cash, you’d be better off.

 

[Marener]

Risk is a component that must be taken into account.

Arguing that you should not have some money on the sideline waiting to buy a bargain is just ridiculous, particularly when that money can earn 4-5% interest risk free.

It’s absolutely not ridiculous and the data shows consistently that timing the market just doesn’t work.

Smart retail investors don’t try to time the market. Smart retail investors know that you can’t predict the future so don’t try.

Time in the market beats timing the market.

 

[pknopp]

Let me make it simpler for you. A business will not raise their price at all if it negatively affects their profits.

Nor will they if their taxes are increased.

 

[DBA]

While that money was sitting on the sidelines making 5%, the SP500 was making 20-25%.

If you had invested it instead of sitting on cash, you’d be better off.

It is was down 8.25% YTD as of April 3. I had money earning 4-5% during that time. That is a 12.25 to 13.25% gain by my math. I will be buying in at these low prices shortly and I don’t have to sell something I already own at a low price to do so. Again, you do you. I know what I am doing.

 

[JohnDB]

Dow has Jumped up today on the India trade deal news.


Huh....would you look at that.

 

[pknopp]

Dow has Jumped up today on the India trade deal news.


Huh....would you look at that.

It jumped when Trump said he was just ranting about firing Powell.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It jumped when Trump said he was just ranting about firing Powell.

And fell before that and jumped before that. Meanwhile the economy is getting hammered.

 

[JLW]

Dow has Jumped up today on the India trade deal news.


Huh....would you look at that.

The market is rising because Trump is signaling he is caving on the trade war. The market will continue to rise until Trump changes his mind or says or does something totally inane and once again causes the markets to tumble.

 

[Marener]

It is was down 8.25% YTD as of April 3. I had money earning 4-5% during that time. That is a 12.25 to 13.25% gain by my math. I will be buying in at these low prices shortly and I don’t have to sell something I already own at a low price to do so. Again, you do you. I know what I am doing.

before you calculate your returns you have to answer where that money came from? Did you get lucky and sell equities at the top or was that money sitting a bank for 2 years?

You’re not the only one buying the bargain. I do too. Every month with my paycheck and 401k.

I don’t leave money sitting on the sidelines thinking I can predict the future. You may invest now and the market drops another 20%.

 

[DBA]

Nor will they if their taxes are increased.

With tariffs, the “tax” directly affects foreign manufactures, putting the burden on them to negotiate with their US importers who in turn negotiate with businesses for the price. Taxes directly affect US busineses who must then negoiate with the importers. Why put the ball in our court? Also, tax increases on business is across the board, not just for imports.

 

[kyzr]

The market is rising because Trump is signaling he is caving on the trade war. The market will continue to rise until Trump changes his mind or says something totally inane and once again causes the markets to tumble.

There are 18 new trade deals being evaluated right now.
As progress is made and the "uncertainty" lessens the stock market should recover.
Fair trade should not be a negative, especially for the US stock market.

 

[DBA]

The market is rising because Trump is signaling he is caving on the trade war. The market will continue to rise until Trump changes his mind or says something totally inane and once again causes the markets to tumble.

He isn’t caving. He is negotiating.

We will be better off because of what is happening and what has happened. That is the bottom line.

 

[pknopp]

With tariffs, the “tax” directly affects foriegn manufactures, putting them burden on them to negotiate with their US importers who in turn negotiate with businesses for the price. Taxes directly affect US busineses who must then negoiate with the importers. Why put the ball in our court? Also, tax increases on business is across the board, not just for imports.

And then the other country enacts reciprocal taxes which......................................

 

[DBA]

And then the other country enacts reciprocal taxes which......................................

That is where you lose. They need the US more than we need them in most cases.

 

[kyzr]

That is where you lose. They need the US more than we need them in most cases.

...in every case.

 

[pknopp]

That is where you lose. They need the US more than we need them in most cases.

Vague generality. China did just fine when they sent Trump packing last time. We think we are far more important than we are.

 

[DBA]

Vague generality. China did just fine when they sent Trump packing last time. We think we are far more important than we are.

That is the US loathing Democrat in you speaking. We built China.

The US is the golden goose by a long shot. Yes, we are undoubtedly the most powerful nation in the world both militarily and economically. We are far, far more important that you have been told.

 

[Lisa558]

During the last 2 years, the SP500 made over 20%. Even with the most recent market dip, that money sitting on the sidelines is doing much worse than money invested.

That’s in retrospect. It is ALWAYS wise to have some money on the sidelines.

 

[pknopp]

That is the US loathing Democrat in you speaking. We built China.

In a way.

We handed them the technology to allow us to exploit their cheap labor. They now have the technology and can stand on their own.

The US is the golden goose by a long shot. Yes, we are undoubtedly the most powerful nation in the world both militarily and economically. We are far, far more important that you have been told.

China sent Trump packing. It cost us billions and China quickly replaced our goods.