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Your first is only partially true to a real believer if there is such a thing, because scriptures tell us to emulate God in all things and to also judge all things.Gods have never held themselves to the same laws they impose on mortals.
and again by definition not all killing is murder
Murder is a statute. It is unlawful. Juries will sit in judgment. They are not judging sin but unlawful conduct.
Murder is a statute. It is unlawful. Juries will sit in judgment. They are not judging sin but unlawful conduct.
Murderers know they are breaking the law. They feel the law is unfair and should not apply to them. Much like drug users and sellers.Again most murders know they are breaking the law even if they feel a compulsion to kill.
The laws and societal acceptances of behaviors have nothing to do with the very existence of those behaviors.
Can you tell me what part of that you don't understand so I can try to explain it better?
And no one is ever asked to judge whether or not a killing of whatever kind is sinful. Just unlawful.Still a matter of definition.
All murders are homicides but not all homicides are murder
Give an example of an absolute sin please.That is exactly the way murderers feel. They were born that way. Therefore should be punished no more than a homosexual, also born that way.
Of course there are absolute sins and absolute morals. Everyone is invited to apply that absolutism to their own lives.
OK how do you know what any murderer feels about the law?Murderers know they are breaking the law. They feel the law is unfair and should not apply to them. Much like drug users and sellers.
That something has always existed as part of the human condition does not preclude that action as being either sinful nor unlawful.
I could only decide if I committed a sin by killing someone. If someone else is the killer, I could only decide whether the act was unlawful.I agree, even as you split hairs.
Are you suggesting that murder is not a sin?
Regards
DL
Not all killing is unlawful.And no one is ever asked to judge whether or not a killing of whatever kind is sinful. Just unlawful.
So if you decided that your act of killing was not a sin would your god agree with you? It seems to me you god has decided what is and isn;t a sin regardless of your personal definitionsI could only decide if I committed a sin by killing someone. If someone else is the killer, I could only decide whether the act was unlawful.
Absolute sin. My mother. She believed that taking money for a favor was an absolute sin. Before she helped anyone she made it clear that she could not accept money.Give an example of an absolute sin please.
The only one I can think of is when God used genocides and inquisitions and jihads against us.
You God id the only absolute sinner I can think of.
Break the first commandment and put another name above God for anything. Even evil.
Regards
DL
You are conflating sinfulness with unlawfulness thinking you can win the argument.Not all killing is unlawful.
We as a society have decided that. But again it has nothing to do with sin or any god and more of what behaviors are beneficial or detrimental to the health of the society in which we live.
Sin is defined by gods. Sin by definition is a violation of divine law.You are conflating sinfulness with unlawfulness thinking you can win the argument.
Sin is something you judge for yourself. Unlawfulness is the judgement of others.
You might want to work on your definitions and tell your mother she is wrong.Absolute sin. My mother. She believed that taking money for a favor was an absolute sin. Before she helped anyone she made it clear that she could not accept money.
Well, I would certainly have to answer for that wouldn't I? Ultimately, true. God decides what is or is not a sin.So if you decided that your act of killing was not a sin would your god agree with you? It seems to me you god has decided what is and isn;t a sin regardless of your personal definitions
Then why does that baker still bake cakes for other people who commit sins?Well, I would certainly have to answer for that wouldn't I? Ultimately, true. God decides what is or is not a sin.
Suppose the baker refuses to bake the wedding cake because the baker believed that the customers were in a sinful relationship. God could consievably say "you judged the sin of another. That makes YOU the sinner."
Don't judge others, just decide your own conduct.
My mother never had a son.You might want to work on your definitions and tell your mother she is wrong.
A good son would have set her straight.
Regards
DL
That's why these matters are best left to the individual and not imposed.Then why does that baker still bake cakes for other people who commit sins?
Surely if baking a cake a gay people is a sin then baking a cake for a any person who has ever sinned must also be a sin.
It seems to be that being in any business that serves the public must in itself be a sin.
All laws are imposed on people. It is what we as a society have decided.That's why these matters are best left to the individual and not imposed.
You are doing it again. Stop. As a society we have agreed, or mostly agreed, on laws by which society will be ordered. There is that which is lawful and that which is unlawful. As a people we have agreed that religious laws will not be applied to any person.All laws are imposed on people. It is what we as a society have decided.
If you live in a society you do not have the privilege of codifying a set of laws that only apply to you but rather you are compelled to follow the laws of that society.
By your logic you could decide that owning a slave is perfectly OK for you and the rest of us should just let you do it because these things are best left up to the individual.
