Evidence surfaces that allegations against Biden weren't "just made up"

[bripat9643]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

What a dumb-fucking defense.

Many of Epstein's girls complained.

Not one of the families in that video with Biden complained. And they were standing right next to their daughters and Biden.

Well - now we have heard the complaint.

If Biden's sniffing is ok to you, you are welcome to join his weirdo club.

Nope, now you're lying. No one in that video complained he was doing anything inappropriately.

The parents of the kids Michael Jackson didn't complain either.

Fucking moron, which of those parents were standing right next to MJ while he was raping their kids?

Are you ever not a fucking moron?

Ever?

Only a moron would believe that matters. You sure say stupid things when you're desperate.

 

[hadit]

Biden is going to have to address this, one way or the other. Democrats aren't as tribal as Republicans, and the DNC knows it and knows this could keep people home in November.

It is true that he will have to address it, and if he doesn't handle it well, will only fuel the same thing in the next election cycle. For now, accusations of sexual impropriety work, and that's why we're seeing them. Expect them to continue.

 

[bripat9643]

He was scraping the bottom of the pervert barrel for that one.

And found trump's party buddy Epstein at the bottom.

He was Clinton's party buddy, douchebag.

Are you ever not a fucking moron?

Ever???

What do you imagine that photo proves? How many times did Clinton hitch a ride on the Lolita Express?

It proves that Impeached Trump and Epstein partied together with very young girls.

No it doesn't, dumbass.

Your hollow denials are noted, fucking moron.

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life." ~ Impeached Trump​

He said that in 1997, moron. That was before Epstein was convicted of anything. Were you expecting Trump to say Epstein is a pedophile?

You're a fucking idiot if you believe that's proof of anything.

 

[Faun]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

What a dumb-fucking defense.

Many of Epstein's girls complained.

Not one of the families in that video with Biden complained. And they were standing right next to their daughters and Biden.

Well - now we have heard the complaint.

If Biden's sniffing is ok to you, you are welcome to join his weirdo club.

Nope, now you're lying. No one in that video complained he was doing anything inappropriately.

The parents of the kids Michael Jackson didn't complain either.

Fucking moron, which of those parents were standing right next to MJ while he was raping their kids?

Are you ever not a fucking moron?

Ever?

Only a moron would believe that matters. You sure say stupid things when you're desperate.

LOLOL

Fucking moron, how could parents complain about something they didn't know was going on? And what the fuck does that have to do with the Senators and their families who were standing right next to Joe Biden for photo-ops of their swearing in?

 

[Faun]

He was scraping the bottom of the pervert barrel for that one.

And found trump's party buddy Epstein at the bottom.

He was Clinton's party buddy, douchebag.

Are you ever not a fucking moron?

Ever???

What do you imagine that photo proves? How many times did Clinton hitch a ride on the Lolita Express?

It proves that Impeached Trump and Epstein partied together with very young girls.

No it doesn't, dumbass.

Your hollow denials are noted, fucking moron.

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life." ~ Impeached Trump​

He said that in 1997, moron. That was before Epstein was convicted of anything. Were you expecting Trump to say Epstein is a pedophile?

You're a fucking idiot if you believe that's proof of anything.

Thanks for admitting I was right when I said the two partied together with very young girls.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Democrats were discussing impeachment before he took office!

And republicans were doing the same with hillary clinton. So what? Gonna cry about it?