Evidence surfaces that allegations against Biden weren't "just made up"

[Faun]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

What a dumb-fucking defense.

Many of Epstein's girls complained.

Not one of the families in that video with Biden complained. And they were standing right next to their daughters and Biden.

Well - now we have heard the complaint.

If Biden's sniffing is ok to you, you are welcome to join his weirdo club.

Nope, now you're lying. No one in that video complained he was doing anything inappropriately.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope, now you're lying. No one in that video complained he was doing anything inappropriately.

Well, you realize, he never actually watched the video.

 

[Norman]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

That is the dumbest statement I ever heard. You are now comparing kids in normal situations to teens without their parents being preyed upon by a sexual predator.

If someone had complained about it - the rightwing media would have splashed it all over the internet. Instead your disgusting minds are spreading baseless allegations of pedophilia without evidence. If your only evidence is snapshots than by all means, let's here you complain about Trump's creepy pictures and statements concerning Ivanka. I mean you care about kids being molested right? You don't need evidence right? Go for it.

Well, there may have been kids in the island as well. You don't know if the parents are there with Biden. Even if they were, given they let their children near Biden it's possible they aren't the soundest either.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter.

It's Biden's stance to believe all women and all that nonsense, not mine.

 

[Faun]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

That is the dumbest statement I ever heard. You are now comparing kids in normal situations to teens without their parents being preyed upon by a sexual predator.

If someone had complained about it - the rightwing media would have splashed it all over the internet. Instead your disgusting minds are spreading baseless allegations of pedophilia without evidence. If your only evidence is snapshots than by all means, let's here you complain about Trump's creepy pictures and statements concerning Ivanka. I mean you care about kids being molested right? You don't need evidence right? Go for it.

Well, there may have been kids in the island as well. You don't know if the parents are there with Biden. Even if they were, given they let their children near Biden it's possible they aren't the soundest either.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter.

It's Biden's stance to believe all women and all that nonsense, not mine.

Dumbfuck, do you even know what that event was??

It was the swearing in of Senators who had just won their respective elections. Biden, as president of the Senate, did the swearing in. That means all those folks were family members of Senators. You make it sound like kids were just wandering in unaccompanied.

 

[Norman]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

That is the dumbest statement I ever heard. You are now comparing kids in normal situations to teens without their parents being preyed upon by a sexual predator.

If someone had complained about it - the rightwing media would have splashed it all over the internet. Instead your disgusting minds are spreading baseless allegations of pedophilia without evidence. If your only evidence is snapshots than by all means, let's here you complain about Trump's creepy pictures and statements concerning Ivanka. I mean you care about kids being molested right? You don't need evidence right? Go for it.

Well, there may have been kids in the island as well. You don't know if the parents are there with Biden. Even if they were, given they let their children near Biden it's possible they aren't the soundest either.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter.

It's Biden's stance to believe all women and all that nonsense, not mine.

Dumbfuck, do you even know what that event was??

It was the swearing in of Senators who had just won their respective elections. Biden, as president of the Senate, did the swearing in. That means all those folks were family members of Senators. You make it sound like kids were just wandering in unaccompanied.

Cool, so it appears democrat senators are quite weird people, no surprises there.

I have yet to come up with a person who thinks Biden's sniffing is acceptable. Except for Coyote and her "times were different" nonsense. At least she should have the context down now.

 

[Faun]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

That is the dumbest statement I ever heard. You are now comparing kids in normal situations to teens without their parents being preyed upon by a sexual predator.

If someone had complained about it - the rightwing media would have splashed it all over the internet. Instead your disgusting minds are spreading baseless allegations of pedophilia without evidence. If your only evidence is snapshots than by all means, let's here you complain about Trump's creepy pictures and statements concerning Ivanka. I mean you care about kids being molested right? You don't need evidence right? Go for it.

Well, there may have been kids in the island as well. You don't know if the parents are there with Biden. Even if they were, given they let their children near Biden it's possible they aren't the soundest either.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter.

It's Biden's stance to believe all women and all that nonsense, not mine.

Dumbfuck, do you even know what that event was??

It was the swearing in of Senators who had just won their respective elections. Biden, as president of the Senate, did the swearing in. That means all those folks were family members of Senators. You make it sound like kids were just wandering in unaccompanied.

Cool, so it appears democrat senators are quite weird people, no surprises there.

I have yet to come up with a person who thinks Biden's sniffing is acceptable. Except for Coyote and her "times were different" nonsense. At least she should have the context down now.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, nearly half of those Senators were Republicans.

 

[Norman]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

That is the dumbest statement I ever heard. You are now comparing kids in normal situations to teens without their parents being preyed upon by a sexual predator.

If someone had complained about it - the rightwing media would have splashed it all over the internet. Instead your disgusting minds are spreading baseless allegations of pedophilia without evidence. If your only evidence is snapshots than by all means, let's here you complain about Trump's creepy pictures and statements concerning Ivanka. I mean you care about kids being molested right? You don't need evidence right? Go for it.

Well, there may have been kids in the island as well. You don't know if the parents are there with Biden. Even if they were, given they let their children near Biden it's possible they aren't the soundest either.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter.

It's Biden's stance to believe all women and all that nonsense, not mine.

Dumbfuck, do you even know what that event was??

It was the swearing in of Senators who had just won their respective elections. Biden, as president of the Senate, did the swearing in. That means all those folks were family members of Senators. You make it sound like kids were just wandering in unaccompanied.

Cool, so it appears democrat senators are quite weird people, no surprises there.

I have yet to come up with a person who thinks Biden's sniffing is acceptable. Except for Coyote and her "times were different" nonsense. At least she should have the context down now.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, nearly half of those Senators were Republicans.

Nearly half?

So most of them were democrats. No need to keep proving us right.

There is simply no defense for Biden's sniffing and touching. No matter how much you pretend there is.

 

[Faun]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

That is the dumbest statement I ever heard. You are now comparing kids in normal situations to teens without their parents being preyed upon by a sexual predator.

If someone had complained about it - the rightwing media would have splashed it all over the internet. Instead your disgusting minds are spreading baseless allegations of pedophilia without evidence. If your only evidence is snapshots than by all means, let's here you complain about Trump's creepy pictures and statements concerning Ivanka. I mean you care about kids being molested right? You don't need evidence right? Go for it.

Well, there may have been kids in the island as well. You don't know if the parents are there with Biden. Even if they were, given they let their children near Biden it's possible they aren't the soundest either.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter.

It's Biden's stance to believe all women and all that nonsense, not mine.

Dumbfuck, do you even know what that event was??

It was the swearing in of Senators who had just won their respective elections. Biden, as president of the Senate, did the swearing in. That means all those folks were family members of Senators. You make it sound like kids were just wandering in unaccompanied.

Cool, so it appears democrat senators are quite weird people, no surprises there.

I have yet to come up with a person who thinks Biden's sniffing is acceptable. Except for Coyote and her "times were different" nonsense. At least she should have the context down now.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, nearly half of those Senators were Republicans.

Nearly half?

So most of them were democrats. No need to keep proving us right.

There is simply no defense for Biden's sniffing and touching. No matter how much you pretend there is.

No one needs to defend against your delusions.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Haha... bripat9643 all over this thread spending half his time doing what he is accusing everyone else of doing, and the other half of his time accusing them of doing it...good stuff, very entertaining...

No woman has claimed that Trump grabbed her pussy

More than 20 women have confirmed that Trump has in fact, grabbed, groped, and assaulted him - including the woman on the plane, the People writer, the woman he raped in the department store dressing room, and the girl who claimed he beat and raped her at Jeffrey Epstein's apartment, when she was 13.

A Running List Of The Women Who've Accused Donald Trump Of Sexual Misconduct

All their stories in one place.

www.huffingtonpost.ca

Yeah but correct me if I’m wrong,but I believe those stories dit not start to surface until after he became president though,not like the case with Clinton at all where women were reporting him raping them way back when he was still the governor of arkansas

 

[Norman]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

That is the dumbest statement I ever heard. You are now comparing kids in normal situations to teens without their parents being preyed upon by a sexual predator.

If someone had complained about it - the rightwing media would have splashed it all over the internet. Instead your disgusting minds are spreading baseless allegations of pedophilia without evidence. If your only evidence is snapshots than by all means, let's here you complain about Trump's creepy pictures and statements concerning Ivanka. I mean you care about kids being molested right? You don't need evidence right? Go for it.

Well, there may have been kids in the island as well. You don't know if the parents are there with Biden. Even if they were, given they let their children near Biden it's possible they aren't the soundest either.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter.

It's Biden's stance to believe all women and all that nonsense, not mine.

Dumbfuck, do you even know what that event was??

It was the swearing in of Senators who had just won their respective elections. Biden, as president of the Senate, did the swearing in. That means all those folks were family members of Senators. You make it sound like kids were just wandering in unaccompanied.

Cool, so it appears democrat senators are quite weird people, no surprises there.

I have yet to come up with a person who thinks Biden's sniffing is acceptable. Except for Coyote and her "times were different" nonsense. At least she should have the context down now.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, nearly half of those Senators were Republicans.

Nearly half?

So most of them were democrats. No need to keep proving us right.

There is simply no defense for Biden's sniffing and touching. No matter how much you pretend there is.

No one needs to defend against your delusions.

If you touched children like that here - it would be the last thing you touched. No delusions about it.

 

[Shrimpbox]

That is simply not true. Ford told no one at the time of the alleged incident. Did you even read the article?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hopeful Biden, the first rapist presidential candidate of the democrat party.

And if he wins, he will be following the Republican rapist in office.

And Bill Clinton and JFK

Having consensual sex with your partner is not rape yes kennedy was unfaithful to his wife and snuck in hookers to the White House constantly,but I never seen anything written in books ever that it wasnt sexual consent by them,that he ever raped them Against their will.

 

[bripat9643]

He was scraping the bottom of the pervert barrel for that one.

And found trump's party buddy Epstein at the bottom.

He was Clinton's party buddy, douchebag.

 

[bripat9643]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

What a dumb-fucking defense.

Many of Epstein's girls complained.

Not one of the families in that video with Biden complained. And they were standing right next to their daughters and Biden.

Well - now we have heard the complaint.

If Biden's sniffing is ok to you, you are welcome to join his weirdo club.

Nope, now you're lying. No one in that video complained he was doing anything inappropriately.

And you believe a bunch of political whores are going to complain about a Dim Senator?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He was Clinton's party buddy

Right! And also Trump's. Gonna cry about it?

 

[Coyote]

He was scraping the bottom of the pervert barrel for that one.

And found trump's party buddy Epstein at the bottom.

He was Clinton's party buddy, douchebag.

He was Trumps party buddy too scumwaffle.

 

[Coyote]

;'ll

The idea that “all women must be believed” removes it from that, and presupposes guilt and innocence.

And you are presupposing innocence before any evidence is laid to bear. I myself don't think one phone call to Larry King is enough evidence, and the rightists on this board are presupposing guilt. Both you and they are doing the exact same thing and for the same reason. Presupposition spits in the face of actual justice.

None of you are blameless. None. Of. You.

You have to presuppose innocence. It is the way our justice system works: innocent until proven guilty. Not all countries are like that. I think it is a very important distinction.

And I disagree it spits in the face of justice. Justice is taking the evidence and determining guilt or innocence through a jury system.

But you have to start from a base, either one is innocent and must prove guilt or one is guilty and must prove innocence.

What other base is there?

You mean like with Kavanaugh and Trump?

How can you post this shit?

In our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you don't understand that shows why you should be ridiculed and laughed at.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Here's a start: what have I said about Kavanaugh?

Second - Trump has kind of a bad record behind him, he is known to have made comments about being able to grab women by the pussy, he has walked through the model's dressing room while they are dressing, and a he has a number of suits against him - some credible some not. The trouble is with some rich and/or powerful, there are always other possible motives for the accusations but some of these have legs. He has also paid off women.

Kavanaugh has no such record - he (and Ford) were known to have been part of a group of privileged teens that parties and drank heavily in high school when this was claimed to have occurred. Lots of alcohol equals poor memories. I believe Ford in that something occurred but there is no way to say it was Kavanaugh it could have been anyone. And they were minors. Kavanaugh may have rotten political views but his adult life has by all accounts been totally responsible. It should never have been used in his confirmation hearing without first being investigated (it deserved the same thorough investigation as Reade's)

You can't compare Kavanaugh with Trump.

The comments about president Trump grabbing pussy left and right are likely true. That's exactly why he doesn't need to take women the Biden way - sniffing from behind.

He just assaults them by grabbing them - is that what you are saying?

So when alpha man grabs your pussy, it's an assault?

What's this deal with the so called "alpha male" thing? (you should start a thread on that and I'll happily jump in). I'm envisioning a grunting semi-coherent gorilla here. Are you saying that grabbing pussies is their right?

I mean maybe 40 years later you can claim that, but we all know what happened then and there.

Hard to say but I agree - when you are waiting decades to make a claim - credibility can be thin - like Tara Reade.

Women would never let a tall, rich, charismatic boss have a grab. They always prefer the guy who comes from behind and starts sniffing his way in.

And so, of course the Trump accusations are fake, made up after the fact, because skanks want some of that CNN attention. Now Biden on the other hand, he has a long history of creeping up on women.

And you know this how? Are you one of those sniffers?

Which part?

Biden's sniffing has been documented.

Oh, we are back to deciphering still photographs again are we? Shall w put up the ones of Trump and Ivanka again and make the claim that molestation is now well documented? Same logic right?

Do you prefer video?

Oh? Which of those girls, or their parents who were standing right there, complained Biden did anything inappropriate?

Exactly.

Which of the people in Epstein island complained that minors were not treated well?

That's the dumbest defense I have heard. You don't know the parents saw that. Further, apparently some people did complain, you don't even know they didn't.

That is the dumbest statement I ever heard. You are now comparing kids in normal situations to teens without their parents being preyed upon by a sexual predator.

If someone had complained about it - the rightwing media would have splashed it all over the internet. Instead your disgusting minds are spreading baseless allegations of pedophilia without evidence. If your only evidence is snapshots than by all means, let's here you complain about Trump's creepy pictures and statements concerning Ivanka. I mean you care about kids being molested right? You don't need evidence right? Go for it.

Well, there may have been kids in the island as well. You don't know if the parents are there with Biden. Even if they were, given they let their children near Biden it's possible they aren't the soundest either.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter.

It's Biden's stance to believe all women and all that nonsense, not mine.

Dumbfuck, do you even know what that event was??

It was the swearing in of Senators who had just won their respective elections. Biden, as president of the Senate, did the swearing in. That means all those folks were family members of Senators. You make it sound like kids were just wandering in unaccompanied.

Cool, so it appears democrat senators are quite weird people, no surprises there.

I have yet to come up with a person who thinks Biden's sniffing is acceptable. Except for Coyote and her "times were different" nonsense. At least she should have the context down now.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, nearly half of those Senators were Republicans.

Nearly half?

So most of them were democrats. No need to keep proving us right.

There is simply no defense for Biden's sniffing and touching. No matter how much you pretend there is.

No defense for Trumps pussy grabbing either.

 

[Markle]

Wait...dejas vous - you mean like the Republicans did to Ford?

She lied. How should she have been treated?

 

[Markle]

No defense for Trumps pussy grabbing either.

Do you have any clue how lame you even sound? Although it is great to see that even you acknowledge that with all the great things President Trump has accomplished and put in motion all you find to whine about is some locker room talk from decades ago. Pretty lame, don't you think. I think you just like to use the word, it makes you giggle!

 

[bripat9643]

He was scraping the bottom of the pervert barrel for that one.

And found trump's party buddy Epstein at the bottom.

He was Clinton's party buddy, douchebag.

He was Trumps party buddy too scumwaffle.

No he wasn't. Trump kicked him out of Mar A Lago.