Fact check trumps resurfaces debunked claims in speech

[nat4900]

You can't make idiots believe in FACTS when lies are so much more "comforting".......Trump proved that one cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

 

[Kosh]

Yes we know you love debunked religious dogma!

I do have a couple of dogs. I had no idea they were religious.

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Fruit cake.

And they prove my point for me!

The only thing you have proven is that you have an infantile mind and wits of a lamb.

And another drone proves my comments!

 

[HUGGY]

Does not matter who's baby it was, it is a fact that Clinton signed into law!

Just like ISIS became a power under Obama!

eist
And I thought ISIS became a power because they stole some oil. Now we find out Obama paid for their weapons?

Who knew?

Yes we know you love debunked religious dogma!

I do have a couple of dogs. I had no idea they were religious.

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Says the guy that believes Trumps birther conspiracy.

No! It's about an atheist using religious dogma! It IS!!!! Says the guy that has a "pong" game for a mind.

 

[Skylar]

AP FACT CHECK: Trump resurfaces debunked claims in speech

TRUMP: "Decades of progress made in bringing down crime are now being reversed by this administration's rollback of criminal enforcement. Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America's 50 largest cities. That's the largest increase in 25 years."

THE FACTS: A rollback? President Barack Obama has actually achieved some big increases in spending for state and local law enforcement, including billions in grants provided through the 2009 stimulus. While FBI crime statistics for 2015 are not yet available, Trump's claim about rising homicides appears to come from a Washington Post analysis published in January. While Trump accurately quotes part of the analysis, he omits that the statistical jump was so large because homicides are still very low by historical standards. In the 50 cities cited by the Post, for example, half as many people were killed last year as in 1991

TRUMP: "The number of new illegal immigrant families who have crossed the border so far this year already exceeds the entire total from 2015. They are being released by the tens of thousands into our communities with no regard for the impact on public safety or resources."

THE FACTS: The pace of releasing immigrants is driven not by the Obama administration, but by a court ruling. A federal judge ruled last year that the government couldn't hold parents and children in jail for more than 20 days. An appeals court partially rolled that back earlier this month, saying that parents could be detained but children must be released.

By the standard used by the government to estimate illegal border crossings - the number of arrests — Trump is right that the number in this budget year has already exceeded last year's total. But it's down from 2014

TRUMP: "When a secretary of state illegally stores her emails on a private server, deletes 33,000 of them so the authorities can't see her crime, puts our country at risk, lies about it in every different form and faces no consequence - I know that corruption has reached a level like never before."

THE FACTS: Clinton's use of a private server to store her emails was not illegal under federal law. Her actions were not established as a crime. The FBI investigated the matter and its role was to advise the Justice Department whether to bring charges against her based on what it found. FBI Director James Comey declined to refer the case for criminal prosecution to the Justice Department, instead accusing Clinton of extreme carelessness.

As for Trump's claim that Clinton faces no consequence, that may be true in a legal sense. But the matter has been a distraction to her campaign and fed into public perceptions that she can't be trusted. The election will test whether she has paid a price politically

TRUMP: "The number of police officers killed in the line of duty has risen by almost 50 percent compared to this point last year."

THE FACTS: Not according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which tracks police fatalities daily. The group found that the number of police officers who died as of July 20 is up just slightly this year, at 67, compared with 62 through the same period last year. That includes deaths in the line of duty from all causes, including traffic fatalities.

It is true that there has been a spike in police deaths from intentional shootings, 32 this year compared with 18 last year, largely attributable to the recent mass shootings in Dallas and Baton Rouge. But that was not his claim.

And overall, police are statistically safer on America's streets now than at any time in recent decades.

For example, the 109 law enforcement fatalities in 2013 were the lowest since 1956. ___


TRUMP: "My opponent has called for a radical 550 percent increase in Syrian (refugees). ... She proposes this despite the fact that there's no way to screen these refugees in order to find out who they are or where they come from. I only want to admit individuals into our country who will support our values and love our people."

THE FACTS: Trump persists in making the bogus claim that the U.S. doesn't screen refugees. The administration both screens them and knows where they are from. The Department of Homeland Security leads the process, which involves rigorous background checks. Processing of a refugee can take 18 months to two years, and usually longer for those coming from Syria. Refugees are also subject to in-person interviews and fingerprint and other biometric screening.

For all that caution, U.S. officials acknowledge that the Islamic State group could try to place operatives among refugees. Last year, FBI Director James Comey said data about people coming from Syria may be limited, adding, "If we don't know much about somebody, there won't be anything in our database." ___

TRUMP: "Two million more Latinos are in poverty today than when President Obama took his oath of office less than eight years ago. Another 14 million people have left the workforce entirely. ... President Obama has almost doubled our national debt to more than $19 trillion, and growing."

THE FACTS: Trump is playing with numbers to make the economy look worse than it actually is. The sluggish recovery over the past seven years has been frustrating. But with unemployment at 4.9 percent, the situation isn't as bleak as he suggests.

Trump's figure of 14 million who've stopped working since Obama took office comes from the Labor Department's measure of people not in the workforce. It's misleading for three reasons: The U.S. population has increased in that time; the country has aged and people have retired; and younger people are staying in school longer for college and advanced degrees, so they're not in the labor force, either.

A better figure is labor force participation — the share of people with jobs or who are searching for work. That figure has declined from 65.7 percent when Obama took office to 62.7 percent now. Part of that decrease reflects retirements, but the decline is also a long-term trend.

On national debt, economists say a more meaningful measure than dollars is the share of the overall economy taken up by the debt. By that measure, the debt rose 36 percent under Obama (rather than doubling). That's roughly the same as what occurred under Republican President George W. Bush.

The Hispanic population has risen since Obama while the poverty rate has fallen. The Pew Research Center found that 23.5 percent of the country's 55.3 million Latinos live in poverty, compared with 24.7 percent in 2010.

___

TRUMP: "When a secretary of state illegally stores her emails on a private server, deletes 33,000 of them so the authorities can't see her crime, puts our country at risk, lies about it in every different form and faces no consequence — I know that corruption has reached a level like never ever before in our country."

THE FACTS: Clinton's use of a private server to store her emails was not illegal under federal law. Her actions were not established as a crime. The FBI investigated the matter and its role was to advise the Justice Department whether to bring charges against her based on what it found. FBI Director James Comey declined to refer the case for criminal prosecution to the Justice Department, instead accusing Clinton of extreme carelessness.

As for Trump's claim that Clinton faces no consequence, that may be true in a legal sense. But the matter has been a distraction to her campaign and fed into public perceptions that she can't be trusted. The election will test whether she has paid a price politically." ___

TRUMP: "When that same secretary of state rakes in millions and millions of dollars trading access and favors to special interests and foreign powers, I know the time for action has come." THE FACTS: That's a somewhat overheated take on a legitimately troublesome issue for Clinton.

Although financial disclosures show she earned only her government salary as secretary of state, she made more than $21 million afterward, over three years, for speeches and appearances for private companies. None of those speeches was paid for by foreign governments, but some groups she addressed could be counted as special interests.

As well, the Clintons' family charity, the Clinton Foundation, received millions of dollars in donations while she was secretary of state, some from foreigners. And Bill Clinton earned millions making appearances and speeches for foreign corporations and organizations while his wife was at the State Department. ___

TRUMP: "After four years of Hillary Clinton, what do we have? ISIS has spread across the region, and the entire world. Libya is in ruins, and our ambassador and his staff were left helpless to die at the hands of savage killers. Egypt was turned over to the radical Muslim Brotherhood, forcing the military to retake control. Iraq is in chaos. Iran is on the path to nuclear weapons. Syria is engulfed in a civil war and a refugee crisis now threatens the West. ... This is the legacy of Hillary Clinton: death, destruction, terrorism and weakness."

THE FACTS: It's an exaggeration to suggest Clinton, or any secretary of state, is to blame for the widespread instability and violence across the Middle East.

Clinton worked to impose sanctions that helped coax Tehran to a nuclear deal with the U.S. and other world powers last year, a deal in which Iran rolled back its nuclear program to get relief from sanctions that were choking its economy.

She did not start the war in Libya, but supported a NATO intervention well after violence broke out between rebels and the forces of dictator Moammar Gadhafi. The country slid into chaos after Gadhafi was ousted and killed in 2011, leaving it split between competing governments.

Clinton had no role in military decisions made during the 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. Republicans' claim that high-level officials in Washington issued a "stand-down" order delaying a military rescue in Benghazi has been widely debunked.

On Iraq, Clinton as a senator voted in 2002 to grant President George W. Bush authority to invade Iraq, but has since said it was a "mistake." Many in the Middle East do not regret Saddam's ouster and regional allies allowed U.S. bases in their country to support the war. But many also now fear the Islamic State group, which rose in the chaos of Syria's civil war and Iraq's security vacuum. ___ Associated Press writers Josh Boak, Stephen Braun, Deb Riechmann, Jim Drinkard and Alicia A. Caldwell in Washington and Elliot Spagat in San Diego contributed to this report

Man, oh man trump is a liar and a fraud. Along with his entire rich party!

This election will boil down to people who can think and read on their own........versus the fearful, sometime racist and xenophobic right wingers........If the media does its job, Trump should be roasted for the lies he openly and readily spews.

I'm really curious to see just how many dumb people vote for someone that championed the birth conspiracy.

But 'something is going on', right? Don't tell me Trump's conspiratorial Rorschach test is another steaming pile of horseshit.

When you have as much money as Trump you can pay people to lie but you cant fake the birth certificate. That was validated by IT professionals as being legit.

You're hamstrung by reason and evidence. Free your mind and just *feel*. It doesn't matter if its actually true. It matters if it feels true. If it feels true, these poor hapless souls will believe anything.

 

[Kosh]

You can't make idiots believe in FACTS when lies are so much more "comforting".......Trump proved that one cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

So you admitting to being an idiot?

Silly far left drone!

 

[Asclepias]

I do have a couple of dogs. I had no idea they were religious.

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Says the guy that believes Trumps birther conspiracy.

Yes I know all those that cheered the death of cops has to make up stuff to distract that they are the true and only racists that are filled with hatred.

So now youre claiming Trump didnt champion the birther conspiracy huh?

And another failed post from the one that cheers for dead cops!

I thought you were against cheering for dead cops?

 

[Asclepias]

I do have a couple of dogs. I had no idea they were religious.

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Fruit cake.

And they prove my point for me!

The only thing you have proven is that you have an infantile mind and wits of a lamb.

And another drone proves my comments!

Yes I proved your comments like your brain, need help.

 

[Kosh]

eist
And I thought ISIS became a power because they stole some oil. Now we find out Obama paid for their weapons?

Who knew?

Yes we know you love debunked religious dogma!

I do have a couple of dogs. I had no idea they were religious.

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Says the guy that believes Trumps birther conspiracy.

No! It's about an atheist using religious dogma! It IS!!!! Says the guy that has a "pong" game for a mind.

Yes it is about someone that used religious dogma as their "facts" and got called on it..

Atheism is also a religion, just like the far left is a religion, goes to show how this one does not understand much of anything!

 

[Kosh]

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Says the guy that believes Trumps birther conspiracy.

Yes I know all those that cheered the death of cops has to make up stuff to distract that they are the true and only racists that are filled with hatred.

So now youre claiming Trump didnt champion the birther conspiracy huh?

And another failed post from the one that cheers for dead cops!

I thought you were against cheering for dead cops?

Yes you cheered the death of cops,,

Just like lal the racist and hate filled drones did..

 

[Kosh]

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Fruit cake.

And they prove my point for me!

The only thing you have proven is that you have an infantile mind and wits of a lamb.

And another drone proves my comments!

Yes I proved your comments like your brain, need help.

And they just keep proving my comments!

 

[SYTFE]

My favorite lines from the speech:

"Believe me"

and

"We will stop it, it won't be happening very much anymore. Believe me."

lol, he's such a twat.

 

[nat4900]

I've often stated that the very BEST way to defeat Trump.........is to have him talk.......His speech tonight offers a "wonderful" opportunity to label him a hapless hack.

 

[Asclepias]

Says the guy that believes Trumps birther conspiracy.

Yes I know all those that cheered the death of cops has to make up stuff to distract that they are the true and only racists that are filled with hatred.

So now youre claiming Trump didnt champion the birther conspiracy huh?

And another failed post from the one that cheers for dead cops!

I thought you were against cheering for dead cops?

Yes you cheered the death of cops,,

Just like lal the racist and hate filled drones did..

Yes you believed Trumps birther conspiracy.

Just like a child that has lost his way.

 

[Asclepias]

Fruit cake.

And they prove my point for me!

The only thing you have proven is that you have an infantile mind and wits of a lamb.

And another drone proves my comments!

Yes I proved your comments like your brain, need help.

And they just keep proving my comments!

You just keep proving you are as dumb as your comments.

 

[HUGGY]

Yes we know you love debunked religious dogma!

I do have a couple of dogs. I had no idea they were religious.

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Says the guy that believes Trumps birther conspiracy.

No! It's about an atheist using religious dogma! It IS!!!! Says the guy that has a "pong" game for a mind.

Yes it is about someone that used religious dogma as their "facts" and got called on it..

Atheism is also a religion, just like the far left is a religion, goes to show how this one does not understand much of anything!

Where is my church? Who are my leaders? What happened to my "bibles"? Can someone have their own religion? If so I demand my tax free status!

 

[Laughing-gas]

There is going to be a lot be a lot of rudderless reactionaries come November.

 

[Kosh]

I do have a couple of dogs. I had no idea they were religious.

Oh the sore loser gets caught spouting religious dogma and instead of being an adult and owning up to it, they show the true mentality that makes all two year olds proud!

Says the guy that believes Trumps birther conspiracy.

No! It's about an atheist using religious dogma! It IS!!!! Says the guy that has a "pong" game for a mind.

Yes it is about someone that used religious dogma as their "facts" and got called on it..

Atheism is also a religion, just like the far left is a religion, goes to show how this one does not understand much of anything!

Where is my church? Who are my leaders? What happened to my "bibles"? Can someone have their own religion? If so I demand my tax free status!

And you just proved my point!

Goes to show that the uninformed will always spout religious dogma. Just like the far left religious dogma that they continue to spout as "fact"..

 

[Michelle420]

"I will present the facts plainly and honestly".-Donald Trump
. I mean he did promise to lower taxes as one of his many, many promises.

On the individual side, Trump’s plan would consolidate the current seven tax brackets into four. One of the biggest revenue reducers would come from Trump’s proposal to reduce the top individual income tax rate from 39.6 percent to 25 percent. Trump would also expand the number of Americans who pay no taxes.

Under the Trump plan, single filers making $25,000 or less, or married couples making $50,000 or less, would pay zero income tax .
the biggest winners — in raw dollars and on a percentage basis — would be those in the top 10 percent of filers, particularly those in the top 1 percent. Still, Cole wrote in a blog post on Sept. 30 that the plan “also contains a very large middle-class tax cut.”

According to the Tax Foundation analysis, after-tax income would increase by 3 percent for those in the 30 percent to 40 percent decile, and 8.9 percent in the 80 percent to 90 percent decile (on a static basis). Those in the top decile would see an increase in after-tax income of 14.6 percent.

IOn the corporate side, Trump would cut the corporate income tax rate from 35 percent to 15 percent. Similarly, pass-through businesses — independent contractors, small LLCs etc., which are currently taxed as ordinary income up to a top rate of 39.6 percent — would be taxed at 15 percent. Trump also would do away with the estate tax.

Is Trump’s Tax Plan Revenue Neutral?

 

[HUGGY]

My favorite lines from the speech:

"Believe me"

and

"We will stop it, it won't be happening very much anymore. Believe me."

lol, he's such a twat.

Shouldn't we examine his words for a reason to believe him? I have a hard time believing someone just because they demand it. I think Bad Daddy is just a tad full of himself.

 

[Spare_change]

Trump is as much full of shit as Clinton but NAFTA was George H.W. Bush baby...

"The House of Representatives approved NAFTA, by a vote of 234 to 200 onNovember 17, 1993, and the Senate voted 60 to 38 for approval on November 20. It was signed into law by President Clinton on December 8, 1993, and took effect onJanuary 1, 1994."