FDR’s Subservience To Stalin Cost Thousand Of American Soldier’s Lives

[Ringo]

Uncle Joe was a humanitarian when he starved those 6,000,000 Kulaks right?

There was 60,000,000 of them.

 

[Moonglow]

Another anti- American thread by Polislick, no surprise.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There was 60,000,000 of them.

What compassion!

 

[Ringo]

What compassion!

No, I'm just a much bigger anti-communist than even Goebbels. He was talking only about the 50 million killed by the bolsheviks.
But you, with your miserable 6 million kulaks, starved to death, should be sent to the commission of Senator McCarthy, you, bolshie sympathizer!

 

[Pete7469]

In total, there were 3,486 million of them.

3.5 billion of them huh?

Jabbering bed wetting leftist retard.

/ignored

 

[Ringo]

3.5 billion of them huh?

I'm sorry that this is too difficult for you... You shouldn't have picked your nose in math classes at school instead of listening to the teacher.

 

[PoliticalChic]

3.5 billion of them huh?

Jabbering bed wetting leftist retard.

/ignored

You are far too kind to that one.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, I'm just a much bigger anti-communist than even Goebbels. He was talking only about the 50 million killed by the bolsheviks.
But you, with your miserable 6 million kulaks, starved to death, should be sent to the commission of Senator McCarthy, you, bolshie sympathizer!

Some socks are more equal than others

 

[PoliticalChic]

Some socks are more equal than others

As you know, from time to time, we get imbeciles like this one who is so bereft of attention that he welcomes negative attention.....and posts inanity that he knows will be attacked.

Luckily, they usually don't stay around too long.

 

[Ringo]

and posts inanity that he knows will be attacked.

There are a lot of scoundrels and fools in the world of Capital, so you're right, it would be absurd to expect that jackals and fools will be silent, but "The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

Working Men of All Countries, Unite!"​

 

[PoliticalChic]

There are a lot of scoundrels and fools in the world of Capital, so you're right, it would be absurd to expect that jackals and fools will be silent, but "The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

Working Men of All Countries, Unite!"​

Calm down, Sméagol, the Precious will be yours once the Hobbits are dead.


You working on the concept is like a one-armed man climbing a rope.
Watch this:


Communism or Capitalism? Finland and Estonia

In 1939 Finland and its southern neighbor Estonia were identical in many ways. Then, in 1940, the USSR occupied Estonia, and it remained under communist rule for 50 years. Here are the words of Mart Laar, Estonia’s former prime minister, stating what communism did to his country:

“Look at what happened in this context during these fifty years and then you can understand how terrible the communist system really is. And it’s not only in the economy. This is in all fields of life—the social structure, cultural standards, education, healthcare, or whatever. When you compare those two countries, which were exactly the same in 1939[,] in 1989, then you will find what communism really means, and how bad it is. Our economy, our nature, and our environment was [sic] destroyed.”

The conclusion:

Their economic and social differences grew so large that no informed person could honestly dispute the pernicious effect that communist rule had on occupied Estonia.
Finland and Estonia




In 1991 Estonia became capitalist, and experienced massive economic growth. They discovered the errors of progressive class warfare.



Don't forget.....You're mentally qualified for handicapped parking.

 

[Oddball]

No, you are not mrs. Bucket, you are more like George Costanza:

wow

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Self-awareness is a key component of emotional intelligence (EI), encompassing emotional awareness, accurate self-assessment and self-confidence.

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[Oddball]

That imbecile actually wrote this:

"No one has ever lived under communism yet."

Why You Won't Get Rich: Because Capitalism Broke Its Contract with Hard Work

what are we supposed to do? stop gathering data about poverty and stop talking about income inequality? why did MLK die? what did Harriett Tubman fight for? we're gonna keep fighting until working people get...A FIGHTING CHANCE!

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[PoliticalChic]

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I don't believe that that moron believes a word of what he posts......but it's fun ripping him.

 

[Oddball]

Lest we forget the long suffering Poles, who got totally shafted by the allies when they let them fall behind the Iron Curtain.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Lest we forget the long suffering Poles, who got totally shafted by the allies when they let them fall behind the Iron Curtain.

Let's be specific: Franklin Roosevelt bequeathed Eastern Europe to his beloved, Stalin.

. Harry Hopkins and George Marshall were fully behind handing all of Eastern Europe over to Stalin's tender mercies. Remember...they knew of the Terror Famine, the Katyn Forest Massacre, and other blood purges by Stalin.

Evidence can be seen in a document which Hopkins took with him to the Quebec conference in August, 1943, entitled "Russia's Position," quoted as follows in Sherwood's book, the authorized Hopkins biography: "Russia's post-war position in Europe will be a dominant one. With Germany crushed, there is no power in Europe to oppose her tremendous military forces."

 

[Otis Mayfield]

1.On this date the brains behind American rocket science died. He was a Nazi scientist, and worked for the United States so as not to be prosecuted.

Wernher von Braun
GERMAN-BORN AMERICAN ENGINEER
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March 23, 1912 - June 16, 1977
Wernher von Braun, German engineer who played a prominent role in all aspects of rocketry and space exploration, first in Germany and after World War II in the United States. Britannica.com

In other words, his was a conditional surrender.





2. American policy in WWII was ‘unconditional surrender’ of Nazi Germany, yet untold numbers of Nazis were allowed such ‘conditions’ because we needed them. The policy itself was foisted on Democrat Roosevelt because Stalin wanted Germany ‘pastoralized’ so an not to interfere with the Red Army occupation of Europe post war.
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage, with no ability to resist Stalin's forces. This was the basis of the Morgenthau Plan.

"Archival evidence indicates that the Soviet’s wanted the war to continue long enough for them to conquer Eastern Europe and in order for Germany to be utterly destroyed or “pastoralized” which was called for in the Morgenthau Plan which was actually written by Soviet spy Harry Dexter White. The Soviets were also clamoring for a “second front” in France in order to deflect the allies out of Italy and the Balkans which was too close to Russia."
Chuck Morse Speaks: The Canaris Cover-up





3. German High-Command tried to reach a surrender agreement as early as 1942.
What stood in the way? Roosevelt’s bowing to Stalin’s demands for nothing other than “Unconditional Surrender.”
Under Truman, we allowed tons of conditional surrenders by Nazis who would work for our government.



When did the war with Germany finally end?

"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims"
Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945

What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
i.e., Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.

America had a choice at the end of the war. America could let Nazi scientists wonder the globe and get hired by whoever.

Or America could hire the Nazi scientists.


Which do you think is a better strategy?

 

[PoliticalChic]

America had a choice at the end of the war. America could let Nazi scientists wonder the globe and get hired by whoever.

Or America could hire the Nazi scientists.


Which do you think is a better strategy?

There never was a reason to agree to Stalin’s demand for ‘unconditional surrender.’



Simply getting the Germans to surrender would have save untold numbers of lives, and stymied Stalin’s post-war plans.





We allowed huge numbers of former Nazis to acquiesce and help America post war….as in our intel agencies: they didn’t exist in terms of spying on Russia, Roosevelt’s one and only love.





Novelist Daniel Silva puts it this way:

" You see, before the war, we had no intelligence service-not areal one, anyway...our intelligence operation inside the Soviet Union consisted of a couple of guys from Harvard and a teletype machine. When we suddenly found ourselves nose to nose with the Russian bogeyman, we didn’t know shit about him. His strengths, his weaknesses, his intentions. And what’s more, we didn’t know how to find out. That another war was imminent was a foregone conclusion. And what did we have? F**k all. No networks, no agents. Nothing. We were lost, wandering in the desert. We needed help. ...General Reinhard Gehlen, head of the German General Staff’s Foreign Armies East branch, Hitler’s chief spy on the Russian front.

“Gehlen was the answer to our prayers. The man had spent a career spying on the Soviet Union, and now he was going to show us the way. We brought him into this country.... . He told us what we wanted to hear. Stalinism was an evil unparalleled in human history. Stalin intended to subvert the countries of western Europe from within and then move against them militarily. Stalin had global ambitions. Be not afraid, Gehlen told us. I have networks, I have sleepers and stay-behind cells. I know everything there is to know about Stalin and his henchmen. Together, we will crush him.”



We used Nazi intel post war just as we used Nazi rocket scientists, by conditional surrender.




Now....the reason that this is significant: Stalin ordered Roosevelt to demand unconditional surrender....yet we allowed all the deals outlined above.


Had we allowed Germany to surrender.....
To get an idea of the cost of the extended war...."....over one hundred thirty-five thousand American GIs died – a startling figure today – between D day[june 6, 1944] and V-E day,[May 8, 1945]...."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence

Get that?

135,000 brave American boys whose lives were offered up as a gift to Stalin....to make certain that communism survived.


Based on the ration of deaths to wounded, that would suggest almost an additional 200,000 wounded, just between Normandy and Germany's surrender.

Totally attributed to 'unconditional surrender.'




Whose side was FDR on?????

 

[Ringo]

Whose side was FDR on?????

Unlike you, nazi trash, he was on the right side.

the Soviet Union suffered more losses than any other combatant power: 11 million military dead and another 16 million civilian. And between 1941 and 1945, it was the Soviets who fought most of the German military and inflicted most of the German casualties.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Unlike you, nazi trash, he was on the right side.

the Soviet Union suffered more losses than any other combatant power: 11 million military dead and another 16 million civilian. And between 1941 and 1945, it was the Soviets who fought most of the German military and inflicted most of the German casualties.

Nazi???

I'm not a Democrat.