Forgive terrorists? No.

[Delta4Embassy]

In the series, the guy in this clip and his people are used as a Jew/Israeli metaphor so keep that in mind watching the 2 min clip.



We see Vir continue his own journey in his episode. We know that Vir was opposed to many of the Centauri acts, both starting the war and during the war. We saw Vir stand up to Morden in "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum". Now, we first see Vir watching G'Kar speechify on the Zocalo, then later he accidentally gets into the same lift with G'Kar. He gives G'Kar a stammering apology, saying there was nothing he could do. In a stunningly effective demonstration, G'Kar slices open the palm of his hand and as the blood drips off, he says, "Dead. Dead. Dead...." Then he says if Vir can't apologize to the dead, then he cannot forgive Vir. How much longer can Vir continue to obey Londo and continue participating in acts he can't condone?
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[Delta4Embassy]

Theologically, forgiveness requires seeking it from the one you sinned against. In the case of murder it's regarded as an unforgiveable sin because the one wronged can't be asked to forgive being dead.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Forgiveness is free, trust is earned. We should forgive all people and walk in forgiveness, Delta. But you do not have to trust them. That would be foolishness.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Will grant forgiveness only posthumously.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

A religion with mandatory or automatic forgiveness AND hell is an oxymoron. What's the point of hell if everyone's forgiven?

 

[Snouter]

Jews invented modern day terrorism with their late '40's takeover of Palestine. Should we forgive them? Personally, I could care less. Unfortunately, the installed ZOGs in the West and now their problems are our problems. Which probably upsets Yahweh.

 

[Kosh]

In the series, the guy in this clip and his people are used as a Jew/Israeli metaphor so keep that in mind watching the 2 min clip.



We see Vir continue his own journey in his episode. We know that Vir was opposed to many of the Centauri acts, both starting the war and during the war. We saw Vir stand up to Morden in "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum". Now, we first see Vir watching G'Kar speechify on the Zocalo, then later he accidentally gets into the same lift with G'Kar. He gives G'Kar a stammering apology, saying there was nothing he could do. In a stunningly effective demonstration, G'Kar slices open the palm of his hand and as the blood drips off, he says, "Dead. Dead. Dead...." Then he says if Vir can't apologize to the dead, then he cannot forgive Vir. How much longer can Vir continue to obey Londo and continue participating in acts he can't condone?
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Unlike Star Trek, where topical relevance is few and far between, just about every episode of Babylon 5 was topical and relevant. Why it's a superior show.

According to the Centauri the Narns were the terrorists and according to the Narns the Centauri were the terrorists. It all started thousands of years ago..

Londo: What reasonable explanation is there for the slaughter of unarmed civilians?
G'Kar: Curious. We wondered the same thing when you invaded our world. The wheel turns, does it not, Ambassador?
Londo: We should have wiped out your kind when we had the chance.
G'Kar: What happened? Run out of small children to butcher?

G'Kar: No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.

Zathras: "Can not run out of time. There is infinite time. You are finite. Zathras is finite. And This ... this is wrong tool. No. No, not good. No. No. Never use this."

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

A religion with mandatory or automatic forgiveness AND hell is an oxymoron. What's the point of hell if everyone's forgiven?

When you forgive someone who is dead, they may already be in hell. The act of forgiveness is for you, Delta. Not them. If they are alive? They may if they are sincerely sorry for what they did to harm you - be grateful for your forgiveness - but that may not be the case. In fact, usually it isn't. You forgive them while they believe they have done nothing wrong! It frees you so that you no longer think about it. Forgiveness is about you being free from the pain it has caused you, the memory, the bitterness, the anger, it is all for you. If the other person receives it - great! If they don't - it is still something they will answer to God for one day.

If you feel deeply hurt by someone over something? It's most likely something happened, and someone is responsible. Even if they never accept responsibility for it. You know?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Jews invented modern day terrorism with their late '40's takeover of Palestine. Should we forgive them? Personally, I could care less. Unfortunately, the installed ZOGs in the West and now their problems are our problems. Which probably upsets Yahweh.

Even if that were true - and it isn't - no person has the right to become a terrorist in order to get their own way. That is the actions of an insane person, organization, religion, whatever one would call it. It's insanity. A civilized society does not behave that way.

 

[Kosh]

A religion with mandatory or automatic forgiveness AND hell is an oxymoron. What's the point of hell if everyone's forgiven?

Well think about it, if life was fair and we deserved everything we get..

 

[Maggdy]

Theologically, forgiveness requires seeking it from the one you sinned against. In the case of murder it's regarded as an unforgiveable sin because the one wronged can't be asked to forgive being dead.

This is a bad contemplation for forgiveness.

What is forgiveness and who have the need?
Forgiveness is only a feeling a subjective feeling is. Anger is a feeling bad, as like remedy it the forgiveness. Who feel the anger? This feeling is theirs the dead?
Who sinned, they might need to repent, IF they really has sinned, but it is different.

 

[September]

I forgive the "terrorists" who have chosen to kill and die in the name of God...

...but I don't forgive the ones who destroy ancient Mesopotamian temples, statues and holy sites of my Sumero-Babylonian ancestors, and others...

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[Maggdy]

I forgive the "terrorists" who have chosen to kill and die in the name of God...

...but I don't forgive the ones who destroy ancient Mesopotamian temples, statues and holy sites of my Sumero-Babylonian ancestors, and others...

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You are an pitiable.