George Friedman : Putin Will Be Humiliated - Moscow empire Is Facing Total Annihilation

[Papageorgio]

you promote here RT.ru narratives. still, as I proved you many times you are a marginal , and we are gonna finished of Moscow horde , and you know it

'As long as it takes': How Biden slipped into a war zone to stand with Ukraine

U.S. President Joe Biden did little to tip his hand about his unannounced visit to Kyiv, heading to church on Saturday afternoon and then taking his wife out to dinner at a cozy Washington restaurant.

www.japantimes.co.jp

I have no issue with finishing off the leadership of Russia, I have no use for them. I am not listening to your link, and as I have told you many times, I didn’t care if people don’t agree with me, the UN and State Dept. agrees that Ukraine has violated human rights, they punish, minorities, gays, lesbians, people with disabilities, not a country I want to be associated with but you are subjective on countries that violate human rights. I want Russia to lose the war and retreat from Ukraine, and give relief to the people of Ukraine and Russia, as far as their leaders, they can all go to hell, they are filth.

 

[Ringo]

Keeping in mind that this is in the context of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which began in 2014

In 2014, there was an armed coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine, driven by nazi units of ukrainian nationalists. The coup was sponsored and supported by the U.S. government.
The uprising of the people of Donbass against the nazis and the return of Crimea back home to Russia was a response to the actions of the Ukrainian Nazis and their masters in Washington.

 

[Ringo]

I have no issue with finishing off the leadership of Russia

Russia, as far as their leaders, they can all go to hell, they are filth.

The leaders in Russia are representatives of capitalists, just as in the United States. But to understand the degree of badness or goodness one must always resort to comparisons. For example, Chikatillo and a street pickpocket, both criminals, but there are nuances...
Compared to American politicians, Russian politicians are innocent sheep. Russia can only be judged based on this ratio.

 

[gipper]

keep sucking ivan´s dick , trumpist

Yet you suck nazi dick all day every day.

 

[ESay]

I want Russia to lose the war and retreat from Ukraine, and give relief to the people of Ukraine and Russia, as far as their leaders, they can all go to hell, they are filth

In this case there is no 'either .. or'. Without the West's financial and military support Ukraine would already have been finished, and Russian troop would be in Kiev now, or even farther (despite their silly claims that they never intended to do so).

But what I agree with is that this war can't be fuelled for any extended period of time. Basically, it will end in the way the both sides can claim a victory.

 

[gipper]

In this case there is no 'either .. or'. Without the West's financial and military support Ukraine would already have been finished, and Russian troop would be in Kiev now, or even farther (despite their silly claims that they never intended to do so).

But what I agree with is that this war can't be fuelled for any extended period of time. Basically, it will end in the way the both sides can claim a victory.

Who benefited from this war?

 

[ESay]

Who benefited from this war?

The American 'elite'.

How is sweeping Russian offensive going?

 

[gipper]

The American 'elite'.

How is sweeping Russian offensive going?

We’re in agreement on your first sentence. Regarding the second, I don't know nor do you. However if you think the Ukes can stop Russia indefinitely, I can’t agree.

 

[Litwin]

you

keep sucking off your muslims lovers , you cheap ho ivan

 

[luiza]

All over at Bakhmut with up to 10,000 Ukey Nazis surrounded on all sides, TitLoser .

Zelenskyy looking as beaten and battered as you .

You may feel a loser , TitLoser , like the Kyiv Nazis . And , of course , you are .

 

[JohnDB]

ps
what was used here ?

Looks like a type of munition that drops small anti-personell shrapnel grenades. There is a small charge that destroys the outer shell in the air that allows the grenades to fall out and carpet an area with small grenades.

They have this type for mortars, artillery and rockets. Not so effective against armored vehicles but effective for troops on the ground.

In warfare like this injuring your opponents is ideal because it usually takes two people out of the fight for each injured man. Dead soldiers require no care. It happens a lot but injured soldiers can't fight and require a buddy to haul them out of positions so their wounds can be attended to.

Then because of attrition on the battlefield, you can swarm the line and cause a complete retreat.

 

[toomuchtime_]

In 2014, there was an armed coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine, driven by nazi units of ukrainian nationalists. The coup was sponsored and supported by the U.S. government.
The uprising of the people of Donbass against the nazis and the return of Crimea back home to Russia was a response to the actions of the Ukrainian Nazis and their masters in Washington.

Of course, as you know not a word of this is true. In 2014, Putin pressured Yanukovych into cancelling Ukraine's application to join the UE and there were massive protests by the Ukrainian people against this move which led Yanukovych to agree to early elections and then move to Russia asking Russia to invade Ukraine, after which Yanukovych was impeached and the President of the parliament became acting president until new elections could be held.

The people of the Donbas did not rise up in protest, but ethnic Russians were the largest minority in Donbas and Russia formed armed militias among them to wage a proxy war against Ukraine, attacking the Ukrainian government and Ukrainians in Donbas who were not pro Russian, and later used this proxy war as pretext to invade Ukraine and seize Crimea.

 

[ESay]

We’re in agreement on your first sentence. Regarding the second, I don't know nor do you. However if you think the Ukes can stop Russia indefinitely, I can’t agree.

Indefinitely, what a waste. Newsflash. Nothing can last indefinitely.

 

[Ringo]

Of course, as you know not a word of this is true. In 2014, Putin pressured Yanukovych into cancelling Ukraine's application to join the UE

You are lying, as usual.
Yanukovych simply studied the terms of accession to the EU. They turned out to be absolutely economically disadvantageous. Naturally, the capitalists of Europe do not need a competitor, they need a market and a source of cheap labor.
The propaganda, however, presented this as a crime against Ukraine. Some part of Ukraine has been trained by years of zombification to accept such lies as truth. And then the Nazi street fighters stepped in to "explain" this to those who disagreed.
When these gangs showed up in the Donbass and start to kill, their behavior led to an uprising. A mining region, a land of rugged people.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You are lying, as usual.
Yanukovych simply studied the terms of accession to the EU. They turned out to be absolutely economically disadvantageous. Naturally, the capitalists of Europe do not need a competitor, they need a market and a source of cheap labor.
The propaganda, however, presented this as a crime against Ukraine. Some part of Ukraine has been trained by years of zombification to accept such lies as truth. And then the Nazi street fighters stepped in to "explain" this to those who disagreed.
When these gangs showed up in the Donbass and start to kill, their behavior led to an uprising. A mining region, a land of rugged people.

Still more of Putin's evil fairy tales. Ukraine applied for membership in the EU while Yanukovych was President and the parliament began passing legislation to meet the EU's criteria for membership while Yanukovych was president, but after a trip to Moscow Yanukovych suddenly cancelled Ukraine's application to the EU and this led to massive protests from Ukrainian citizens which led to Yanukovych agreeing to early elections and then fleeing to Russia and asking Russia to invade Ukraine; the parliament then impeached him, and in accordance with the Ukrainian constitution, the President of the parliament became acting President until new elections could be held.

Ethnic Russians make up about half the residents of Donbas and there is no data about how many of these ethnic Russians supported the Putin government so it is almost certain that only a minority of Ukrainians living Donbas and there was no significant violence before March 2014. Then,

In March 2014, immediately following Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, anti-revolution and pro-Russian protests began in Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, collectively 'the Donbas'. These began as Russia annexed Crimea, and were part of wider pro-Russian protests in southeast Ukraine. Armed Russian-backed separatists seized Ukrainian government buildings throughout the Donbas and declared the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR) as independent states, leading to conflict with Ukrainian government forces.[19] Russia covertly supported the separatists with troops and heavy weaponry, only later admitting sending "military specialists".[20][21] After a year of fighting, the conflict developed into trench warfare. There were 29 failed ceasefires.[22][23][24] About 14,200–14,400 people were killed in the war, the vast majority of them in the first year: 6,500 pro-Russian separatist forces, 4,400 Ukrainian forces, and 3,404 civilians on both sides of the frontline.[14]

War in Donbas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In other words, the violence in Donbas was entirely the result of first starting a proxy war in Donbas and then using that proxy war as a pretext for an invasion of Ukraine in 2014.

 

[gipper]

Indefinitely, what a waste. Newsflash. Nothing can last indefinitely.

That’s the kind of reply I expect from you. Dumb.

 

[luiza]

Meanwhile Russia continues to obliterate the Khazarian Mafia -- March 2

02.03.2023 (14:45)

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation​

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

In Kupyansk direction, the attacks, launched by the Army Aviation, artillery and heavy flamethrower systems of the 'Zapad' Group of Forces, have resulted in neutralisation of the enemy units near Novosyolovskoye (Lugansk People's Republic), Masyutovka and Olshana (Kharkov region).


Over to 50 Ukrainian servicemen and two motor vehicles have been eliminated.


In addition, one munition depot of the AFU 14th Mechanised Brigade has been destroyed near Krasnoye Pervoye (Kharkov region).

In Krasny Liman direction, the active operations of the 'Tsentr' Group of Forces, as well as the attacks, launched by aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrower systems, have resulted in neutralisation of the AFU manpower and hardware near Yampolovka (Donetsk People's Republic), Nevskoye and Chervonopopovka and Kuzmino (Lugansk People's Republic).


Up to 160 Ukrainian servicemen, seven armoured fighting vehicles and Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system have been destroyed.

In Donetsk direction, the active actions of the 'Yug' Group of Forces, as well as, air attacks and artillery have resulted in the neutralisation of about 270 Ukrainian servicemen, six infantry fighting vehicles, three armoured fighting vehicles, nine motor vehicles, Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system, and Msta-B and D-30 howitzers.


One AFU ordnance depot of 110th Mechanised Brigade and the AFU signal node have been destroyed near Avdeyevka (Donetsk People's Republic).

In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, Operational-Tactical Aviation and the artillery of the 'Vostok' Group of Forces have launched a complex fire attack against the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Ugledar (Donetsk People's Republic), and Malaya Tokmachka and Kamenskoye (Zaporozhye region).


The enemy losses were up to 80 Ukrainian servicemen, one tank, two armoured fighting vehicles, two pickup trucks, as well as, Msta-B and D-30 howitzers.

In Kherson direction, the attacks, launched by aviation and artillery, have resulted in neutralisation of up to 80 Ukrainian servicemen, 30 motor vehicles, Msta-B howitzer, and a munition depot of the 123rd Territorial Defence Brigade near Tokarevka (Kherson region).

Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 89 artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and hardware in 195 areas.
One Ukrainian Buk-M1 air defence missile system has been destroyed near Kramatorsk (Donetsk People's Republic).


In addition, one radar of S-300 surface-to-air missile system has been destroyed near Nikopol (Dnepropetrovsk region).

Fighter Aviation of Russian Aerospace Forces have shot down one Su-24 airplane of Ukrainian Air Force near Mikhailovka (Donetsk People's Republic).


One AFU Mi-8 helicopter has been shot down near Kurakhovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Air defence facilities have shot down one Su-25 airplane of Ukrainian Air Force near Krynki (Kherson region).
In addition, one HIMARS MLRS missile has been intercepted. 14 AFU UAVs have been destroyed near Chugunovka (Kharkov region), Peski, Yakovlevka, Mineralnoye, Zavitne Bazhania (Donetsk People's Republic), Golaya Pristan, Cazachyi Lageri and Zburyevka (Kherson region). In total, 393 airplanes and 212 helicopters, 3,295 unmanned aerial vehicles, 407 air defence missile systems, 8,105 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 1045 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 4,247 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 8,665 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed during the special military operation.

 

[ESay]

That’s the kind of reply I expect from you. Dumb.

I try to stay on your level.

 

[Litwin]

Still more of Putin's evil fairy tales. Ukraine applied for membership in the EU while Yanukovych was President and the parliament began passing legislation to meet the EU's criteria for membership while Yanukovych was president, but after a trip to Moscow Yanukovych suddenly cancelled Ukraine's application to the EU and this led to massive protests from Ukrainian citizens which led to Yanukovych agreeing to early elections and then fleeing to Russia and asking Russia to invade Ukraine; the parliament then impeached him, and in accordance with the Ukrainian constitution, the President of the parliament became acting President until new elections could be held.

Ethnic Russians make up about half the residents of Donbas and there is no data about how many of these ethnic Russians supported the Putin government so it is almost certain that only a minority of Ukrainians living Donbas and there was no significant violence before March 2014. Then,

In March 2014, immediately following Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, anti-revolution and pro-Russian protests began in Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, collectively 'the Donbas'. These began as Russia annexed Crimea, and were part of wider pro-Russian protests in southeast Ukraine. Armed Russian-backed separatists seized Ukrainian government buildings throughout the Donbas and declared the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR) as independent states, leading to conflict with Ukrainian government forces.[19] Russia covertly supported the separatists with troops and heavy weaponry, only later admitting sending "military specialists".[20][21] After a year of fighting, the conflict developed into trench warfare. There were 29 failed ceasefires.[22][23][24] About 14,200–14,400 people were killed in the war, the vast majority of them in the first year: 6,500 pro-Russian separatist forces, 4,400 Ukrainian forces, and 3,404 civilians on both sides of the frontline.[14]

War in Donbas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In other words, the violence in Donbas was entirely the result of first starting a proxy war in Donbas and then using that proxy war as a pretext for an invasion of Ukraine in 2014.

you just humiliated pootin´s popogandacondom

 

[Ringo]

In other words, the violence in Donbas was entirely the result of first starting a proxy war in Donbas and then using that proxy war as a pretext for an invasion of Ukraine in 2014.

You see, stinking scum, you can tell these nonsense to anyone you want, but not to me. I have lived half my life in Ukraine and was in Donbass in 2014. So I know what was there and how.
And to understand why the Donbass rebelled after the armed coup in Kiev, one must understand that the reason for it was not only the bandit nazi units that were then dispersed throughout Southeastern and Southern Ukraine, but also the unacceptable Nazi ideology established by the victorious putschists.

Imagine everybody, if a party won as a result of the coup in Israel arguing that the german nazis weren't so bad and should put a monument to Hitler in Jerusalem, or if the KKK party won the election in the United States, with all the consequences. How do you think Jews and blacks would react to such a thing?
Sometimes an insult provokes a stronger response than, for example, an economic deception. Most of the duels in history, for example, occurred not because someone was cheated, but because someone was verbally abused. The neo-nazi victory by an illegal armed coup in 2014 was a direct insult to the decent people of Ukraine.