Give 'em Hell in a Hurry, Harry!

[Ropey]

It could be because Israel is in Palestine.

It could be because you're blind and maybe a little...

 

[georgephillip]

Let's ask "the Bitch":

"Golda Meir, considered by Israelis as a great leader and by others as one of history’s great killers, disputed the facts: 'It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.'”

CounterPunch

Mrs. Meir wasn't a bitch simply because she was female. Egypt and Syria attacked Israel in 1973, the only war on her watch. I have read some of her articles in which she said that the Arab people, as a whole, have an unnatural pre-occupation and obsession with Israel, when they could be so much more productive. If Israel is overly cautious and paranoid, then it's probably due to their history. When an Israeli proudly says that Israel will have 78% of Mandated Palestine, and the Palestinians only 22% in a final settlement, this would seem grossly unfair. But you just cannot separate Palestinans from the larger Arab people, who have so many countries already. These other Arabs have used the Palestians as political pawns, allowing them to languish in refugee camps, so many years after the fact. They did this to instill in them a hatred for Israel. I, for one, would be willing to give up the West Bank, if it would end this conflict once and for all. But what would happen "the day after"? Would an independent Palestine invite the Iranians in? I think the answer to that is yes.

Golda or Goldstone?

"Not since Golda Meir said she would never forgive the Arabs for making us kill their children have such self-righteous, infuriating and damaging statements been made.

"It is fairly certain that the next war will break out at a time and place of Israel’s choosing. That is the way it has been in all the wars since 1973.

"We have embarked on three unnecessary wars on Israel’s initiative because of the 'Golda spirit' of Shavit and those like him, who see war as a legitimate and even desirable weapon.

"The next war will also be a 'Golda war,' like that accursed war in 1973, which could also have been avoided if not for the spirit of Golda.

"Shavit and the other Goldas, busy with self-deception and moral blindness, who incite, repress and lie, who reject every possibility of a just solution – they are the ones who will bring it, just like its predecessors.

"The Goldas are doing everything possible to avoid a peace agreement. They whine and self-victimize."

The Golda Wars

In 1948 Mandate Palestine less than one out of three inhabitants was Jewish. Why would anyone think they could gerrymander a Jewish majority state in such an environment without requiring a brutal occupation of the majority?

 

[docmauser1]

"Unfortunately, the hurried recognition of Israel as a state has resulted in forty-five years of murderous confusion, and the destruction of what Zionist fellow travellers thought would be a pluralistic state – home to its native population of Muslims, Christians and Jews, as well as a future home to peaceful European and American Jewish immigrants, even the ones who affected to believe that the great realtor in the sky had given them, in perpetuity, the lands of Judea and Samaria.

Shahak was a driveling dumb fool and like any dumb fool, riding high horsie, he, typically, forgot that, no realtor in the sky had given Judea and Samaria to arabs, like no realtor in the sky had given California to its current occupiers, of course.

 

[georgephillip]

Goldstone Did It

"Those who are to blame for everything have been found: the 'Goldstoners.'

"Not the occupation, the settlements, Israeli aggressiveness or brutality; just Goldstone.

"According to Ari Shavit (Haaretz, October 8), the spirit of Judge Richard Goldstone will bring the next war upon us, and it will be called the Goldstone War.

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this week reiterated that sentiment in amazingly similar terms this week in his speech to the Knesset.

"Not since Golda Meir said she would never forgive the Arabs for making us kill their children have such self-righteous, infuriating and damaging statements been made.

"It is fairly certain that the next war will break out at a time and place of Israel’s choosing.

"That is the way it has been in all the wars since 1973.

"We have embarked on three unnecessary wars on Israel’s initiative because of the 'Golda spirit' of Shavit and those like him, who see war as a legitimate and even desirable weapon."

The Golda Wars..

 

[docmauser1]

Goldstone Did It

Who could've thought.

"Those who are to blame for everything have been found: the 'Goldstoners.'

Stoners have always been a problem, of course. "We had to do the best we could with the material we had. If this was a court of law, there would have been nothing proven."
Goldstone.

 

[georgephillip]

"WAR CRIMES INVESTIGATION

"A United Nations fact-finding mission investigating the three-week war issued a lengthy, scathing report on Sept. 15, 2009 that concluded that both the Israeli military and Palestinian armed groups committed actions amounting to war crimes, and possibly crimes against humanity.

"The four-member mission, led by Justice Richard Goldstone, a widely respected South African judge, also concluded that neither Israel nor the Palestinian groups had carried out any 'credible investigations' into the alleged violations.

"The Israeli government angrily disputed the report's conclusions."

We all know which side is fighting against an illegal occupation and which side gets richer from said occupation.

As in 7 million US taxpayer dollars per day richer.

Goldstone Report...

 

[docmauser1]

"The Israeli government angrily disputed the report's conclusions."

Stoners have always been a problem, of course. "We had to do the best we could with the material we had. If this was a court of law, there would have been nothing proven."
Goldstone.

We all know which side is fighting against an illegal occupation and which side gets richer from said occupation.

Of course! Aztlán vs. illegal occupation of California!

 

[georgephillip]

Not to mention California's contribution to Iraq's misery

"Iraq, despite the brutality of Saddam Hussein, was a prosperous country with a highly educated middle class before the war. Its infrastructure was modern and efficient. Iraqis enjoyed a high standard of living.

"The country did not lack modern conveniences. Things worked. And being in Iraq, as I often was when I covered the Middle East for The New York Times, while unnerving because of state repression, was never a hardship.

"Since our occupation the country has tumbled into dysfunction. Factories, hospitals, power plants, phone service, sewage systems and electrical grids do not work.

"Iraqis, if they are lucky, get three hours of electricity a day. Try this in 110-degree heat. Poverty is endemic.

"More than a million Iraqi civilians have been killed.

"Nearly 5 million have been displaced from their homes or are refugees.

"The Mercer Quality of Living survey last year ranked Baghdad last among cities—the least livable on the planet. Iraq, which once controlled its own oil, has been forced to turn its oil concessions over to foreign corporations.

"That is what we have bequeathed to Iraq—violence, misery and theft."

Do you (also) support the corporate occupation of Iraq?

Chris Hedges...

 

[docmauser1]

Not to mention California's contribution to Iraq's misery

Yes! That annual $10 bln. USD, recklessly spent on servicing California's fat illegals with latent deviant tendencies, is ruthlessley taken from the mouths of hungry iraqi children! Paging Bunkme Moonface.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not to mention California's contribution to Iraq's misery

"Iraq, despite the brutality of Saddam Hussein, was a prosperous country with a highly educated middle class before the war. Its infrastructure was modern and efficient. Iraqis enjoyed a high standard of living.

"The country did not lack modern conveniences. Things worked. And being in Iraq, as I often was when I covered the Middle East for The New York Times, while unnerving because of state repression, was never a hardship.

"Since our occupation the country has tumbled into dysfunction. Factories, hospitals, power plants, phone service, sewage systems and electrical grids do not work.

"Iraqis, if they are lucky, get three hours of electricity a day. Try this in 110-degree heat. Poverty is endemic.

"More than a million Iraqi civilians have been killed.

"Nearly 5 million have been displaced from their homes or are refugees.

"The Mercer Quality of Living survey last year ranked Baghdad last among cities—the least livable on the planet. Iraq, which once controlled its own oil, has been forced to turn its oil concessions over to foreign corporations.

"That is what we have bequeathed to Iraq—violence, misery and theft."

Do you (also) support the corporate occupation of Iraq?

Chris Hedges...

But we brought "democracy" to Iraq!

We brought election fraud and a puppet government that would enforce the new laws we imposed. We changed the tax rate for the top earners (our friends) from 35% to 15%. Iraq's constitution forbid foreign ownership. We changed it to allow 100% foreign ownership and that 100% of profits could be immediately taken out of the country untaxed.

That oil law, that was a benchmark to ensure that oil wealth be shared. Yes, the Kurds would get 10%, The Shia would get 10%, the Sunni would get 10%, and Bush’s rich friends would get 70%.

Yeah, we wonder why they are fighting us.

 

[georgephillip]

And our "withdrawal" amounts to the Pentagon turning the US occupation over to the State Department which will substitute corporate killers for the US military.

What scares me the most is the possibility we won't develop alternative energy sources in time and ten years from now the US occupation of the Middle East will be the only thing keeping the lights on in the Homeland.

 

[docmauser1]

But we brought "democracy" to Iraq!
That oil law, that was a benchmark to ensure that oil wealth be shared. Yes, the Kurds would get 10%, The Shia would get 10%, the Sunni would get 10%, and Bush’s rich friends would get 70%.

And what was this bicycle-vegan drivel meant to accomplish?

 

[georgephillip]

Are you oblivious to Iraq's New Dawn?

Don't you get it?

"Michael Prysner, a veteran of the Iraq War and one of the co-founders of March Forward!, gets it.

"His group is one of those organizing the March 19 protests.

"Prysner joined the Army out of high school in June 2001.

"He was part of the Iraq invasion force. He worked during the war in Iraq tracking targets and calling in airstrikes and artillery barrages.

"He took part in nighttime raids on Iraqi homes. He worked as an interrogator. He did ground surveillance missions and protected convoys.

"He left the Army in 2005, disgusted by the war and the lies told to sustain it. He has been involved since leaving the military in anti-recruiting drives at high schools and street protests.

"He was arrested with 130 others in front of the White House during the Dec. 16 anti-war protest organized by Veterans for Peace."

Surely you'll be marching on March 19th?

Bring your donkey.

Chris Hedges...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian children killed in 2000 - 91

Israeli children killed in 2000 - 0

Remember These Children 2000 Memorial

 

[georgephillip]

And What's With the IDF and Head Shots?

"In the past 10 years Israeli forces have killed at least 255 Palestinian minors by fire to the head, and the number may actually be greater, since in many instances the specific bodily location of the lethal trauma is unlisted.

"In addition, this statistic does not include the many more Palestinian youngsters shot in the head by Israeli soldiers who survived, in one form or another.

"Below is a small sampling of those who died...

Sami, 12, died of head wounds from IDF gunfire during a demonstration.

"Abdul, 9, was killed by IDF gunfire to his head during a funeral.

"Ala, 14, died of head wounds from IDF gunfire while on the terrace of his home one hour after injuring an Israeli soldier with a stone.

"Omar, 11, died of head wounds from IDF gunfire during a demonstration.

"Diya, 3 months, was killed, along with her older brother, by Israeli settler gunfire to her head and back.

"Bara, 10, was killed by IDF gunfire to his head while near his home. Ayman, 15, was killed by IDF tank fire to his head while farming.

"Khalil, 11, was killed by IDF tank fire to his head while playing with a friend.

"Rami, 13, was killed by IDF helicopter fire to his head while playing in front of his house.

"Yaser, 11, died of head wounds from an IDF rubber-coated bullet fired at close range during a demonstration…"

Shot in the Head

 

[Ropey]

 

[P F Tinmore]

All those people are in Palestine. Who would they be shooting at in Palestine?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ahhh, the lying sack of crap stand with us campaign.

The Goldstone Report found no evidence to back up the human shield allegation.

 

[Ropey]

Ahhh, the lying sack of crap stand with us campaign.

The Goldstone Report found no evidence to back up the human shield allegation.

That's not what they were being paid to find.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ahhh, the lying sack of crap stand with us campaign.

The Goldstone Report found no evidence to back up the human shield allegation.

That's not what they were being paid to find.

They looked into that as a violation of law and specifically stated the there was no evidence. It is just propaganda.