I think they are talking about 2 radically different thing.
The op need to clarify his post--most of us are ignorant gentiles with very selective, if any, understanding of Judaic texts and/or symbolism.
Shev does use lots of Hebrew poetic symbolism----do not hesitate to ask him to explain. Wine is a big time symbol in Hebrew
writings. -------virtually like bread which kinda
symbolizes LIFE and wine the essence thereof------the good stuff like intellect and
love and joy
bo rei p'reet ha'gafen....
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bo rei et ha'google