Gorebal warming HOAX still alive and well...

[JoeBlam]

Although NOAA getting caught red-handed at this scheme only admits to doctoring "some of the data".....the still-in-use sensor pictured below is placed over a steam vent next to a tin roof, with weeds all around it and actually shows a higher reading at night than during the heat of the day.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has closed some 600 out of nearly 9,000 weather stations over the past two years that it has deemed problematic or unnecessary, after a long campaign by one critic highlighting the problem of using unreliable data. The agency says the closures will help improve gathering of weather data, but critics like meterologist and blogger Anthony Watts say it is too little, too late.

"The question remains as to why they continue to use a polluted mix of well-sited and poorly-sited stations," Watts told FoxNews.com.

'They continue to use a polluted mix of well-sited and poorly-sited stations.'- Anthony Watts

Watts has for years searched for weather stations that have flaws. And he points to a still-open station at Yosemite park as an example of one with “heat sinks” – objects that store heat, and then release it at night. Heat sinks can cause stations located in or near them to give off useless data -- generally in the form of inflated temperatures not representative of the broader area.

“The heat sinks are a road, a building, and stacked metal pipe and beams surrounding the station,” he said.


Read more: Distorted data? Feds close 600 weather stations amid criticism they're situated to report warming | Fox News

 

[konradv]

According to some, any station that isn't giving the data they want is a poorly situated station. The NOAA is getting rid of problematic sensors, but that doesn't matter to the deniers. They want them all gone. You can easily tell those who are all about the politics and don't really care about the the science. They always throw Gore into the mix, despite the fact that he hasn't said anything in ages. Remember, those that know the science; discuss it. Those that don't; discuss Gore.

 

[JoeBlam]

According to some, any station that isn't giving the data they want is a poorly situated station. The NOAA is getting rid of problematic sensors, but that doesn't matter to the deniers. They want them all gone. You can easily tell those who are all about the politics and don't really care about the the science. They always throw Gore into the mix, despite the fact that he hasn't said anything in ages. Remember, those that know the science; discuss it. Those that don't; discuss Gore.

Gore is you moonbat's guru on this scheme....he's now a billionaire and you're left denying you've been had....duped, murphied, stung, fleeced, etc. We are all for collecting real temperature data...not this fake crap that promotes an agenda to de-industrialize the USA while leaving China and India untouched. We're for clean air and water....we use it too remember.....face it, your science is skewed to receive funding-grants from like-minded communist elites....they'll say anything for those fat checks. And understand this...we don't think this shit is funny....you are impeding oil and natural gas exploration with this bullshit and costing us time and dollars until we can get rid of this thinking root and branch.

 

[daveman]

According to some, any station that isn't giving the data they want is a poorly situated station. The NOAA is getting rid of problematic sensors, but that doesn't matter to the deniers. They want them all gone. You can easily tell those who are all about the politics and don't really care about the the science. They always throw Gore into the mix, despite the fact that he hasn't said anything in ages. Remember, those that know the science; discuss it. Those that don't; discuss Gore.

Okay, let's discuss why you believe the pictured station accurately records ambient temperature despite the presence of a tin roof and a steam vent.

 

[Old Rocks]

Sorry, dimwiddies, this has long been settled.

New climate study deals blow to skeptics - CNN.com

London (CNN) -- An independent study of global temperature records has reaffirmed previous conclusions by climate scientists that global warming is real.

The new analysis by the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project examined 1.6 billion temperature reports from 15 data archives stretching back over 200 years in an effort to address scientific concerns raised by climate skeptics about the data used to inform reports published by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Researchers found "reliable evidence" of a rise in average world land temperatures of one degrees Celsius -- or 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit -- since the mid-1950s.

"Our biggest surprise was that the new results agreed so closely with the warming values published previously by other teams in the United States and the UK," professor Richard A. Muller, Berkeley Earth's scientific director said in a statement.

"This confirms that these studies were done carefully and that potential biases identified by climate change skeptics did not seriously affect their conclusions," Muller added.

 

[Old Rocks]

Anthony Watts is an un-degreed TV weatherman. His reports are published in a blog, not peer reviewed scientific journals.

Every Scientific Society on this planet, every National Academy of Science, and every major University states that AGW is a fact, and a clear and present danger. You want to discuss the science of the effect of GHGs we are pumping into the atmosphere, post us some articles in peer reviewed journals by real scientists, not blather by someone with zero background to understand the science he denies.

 

[Old Rocks]

This is the scientific history of the investigation of the affects of GHGs in the atmosphere, posted by the largest scientfic society of physicists in the world, the American Institute of Physics.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"our biggest surprise was how much our preconceived notions and altered data fit our model"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

1.6 billion temperature reports, and not one single experiment showing how a 200ppm increases temperature, moreover all the data show CO2 LAG temperature changes

 

[Old Rocks]

1.6 billion temperature reports, and not one single experiment showing how a 200ppm increases temperature, moreover all the data show CO2 LAG temperature changes

First, you have repeated that lie repeatedly. Yet you have been shown again and again where such experiments were done, and even linked to the original work of Tyndall.

In the Milankovic Cycles the CO2 does lag the temperature. However, in several extinction events, the CO2 preceded the temperature, just as it is doing today.

CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

This statement does not tell the whole story. The initial changes in temperature during this period are explained by changes in the Earth’s orbit around the sun, which affects the amount of seasonal sunlight reaching the Earth’s surface. In the case of warming, the lag between temperature and CO2 is explained as follows: as ocean temperatures rise, oceans release CO2 into the atmosphere. In turn, this release amplifies the warming trend, leading to yet more CO2 being released. In other words, increasing CO2 levels become both the cause and effect of further warming. This positive feedback is necessary to trigger the shifts between glacials and interglacials as the effect of orbital changes is too weak to cause such variation. Additional positive feedbacks which play an important role in this process include other greenhouse gases, and changes in ice sheet cover and vegetation patterns.

A 2012 study by Shakun et al. looked at temperature changes 20,000 years ago (the last glacial-interglacial transition) from around the world and added more detail to our understanding of the CO2-temperature change relationship. They found that:
•The Earth's orbital cycles trigger the initial warming (starting approximately 19,000 years ago), which is first reflected in the the Arctic.
•This Arctic warming caused large amounts of ice to melt, causing large amounts of fresh water to flood into the oceans.
•This influx of fresh water then disrupted the Atlantic Ocean circulation, in turn causing a seesawing of heat between the hemispheres. The Southern Hemisphere and its oceans warmed first, starting about 18,000 years ago.
•The warming Southern Ocean then released CO2 into the atmosphere starting around 17,500 years ago, which in turn caused the entire planet to warm via the increased greenhouse effect.

Overall, about 90% of the global warming occurred after the CO2 increase (Figure 2).

 

[daveman]

According to some, any station that isn't giving the data they want is a poorly situated station. The NOAA is getting rid of problematic sensors, but that doesn't matter to the deniers. They want them all gone. You can easily tell those who are all about the politics and don't really care about the the science. They always throw Gore into the mix, despite the fact that he hasn't said anything in ages. Remember, those that know the science; discuss it. Those that don't; discuss Gore.

Okay, let's discuss why you believe the pictured station accurately records ambient temperature despite the presence of a tin roof and a steam vent.

Well, konrad? "I really really really REALLY want it to be true!!" may be good enough for the AGW cult, but it's less than compelling for normal people.

 

[JoeBlam]

Sorry, dimwiddies, this has long been settled.


"This confirms that these studies were done carefully and that potential biases identified by climate change skeptics did not seriously affect their conclusions," Muller added.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! loser.

 

[boedicca]

This is the scientific history of the investigation of the affects of GHGs in the atmosphere, posted by the largest scientfic society of physicists in the world, the American Institute of Physics.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

The only people listening are members of the Leftwing Stupid Choir. The public realizes
AGW is just another Big Government - Crony initiative to bleed them out of their hard earned money.

Not a single person showed up at the Georgetown waterfront Tuesday for a climate change agenda event put on by Organizing for Action, the shadowy nonprofit advocacy group born out of President Obama’s 2012 campaign, the NRCC wrote in its blog.

The event page for the “Climate Change Day of Action Rally” disappeared after rainy weather appeared to drive away whatever people planned to attend. The embarrassing showing follows the news that only one volunteer stayed for an OFA Obamacare event in Centreville, Va., last week to work the phones...

OFA Gets Zero Attendance for Climate Change Rally | Washington Free Beacon

 

[freedombecki]

Sorry, dimwiddies, this has long been settled.


"This confirms that these studies were done carefully and that potential biases identified by climate change skeptics did not seriously affect their conclusions," Muller added.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! loser.

He sure is. Here's the skinny:

If one multiplied the adjusted CO2 contribution to the Greenhouse effect (3.618%) by the proportion of atmospheric CO2 thought to be due to human activities (3.225%), one might deduct that only a tiny part (0.117%) of the Greenhouse Effect due to CO2 is currently due to human activity. The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

 

[R.C. Christian]

Hey, all we need is a small nuclear exchange and the earth will cool down. I can't believe the scientists aren't pushing this plan. I say we goad India and Pakistan into a nuclear exchange. Instant 1 billion less people on earth and floating in the troposphere. It's a win win.