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dblack

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... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.
 
But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

And like Plato said, we all need each other therefore we all need government.

It sounds like you have not yet resolved the philosophical issues of people and government yet.

You probably should read Plato.
 
... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.
 
Actually gov't is a useful tool for accomplishing those functions that it's citizens cannot do individually. Some regimes have used for the purposes described in the OP, but that isn't really what it's for.
 
But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.
 
Actually gov't is a useful tool for accomplishing those functions that it's citizens cannot do individually.
Like ganging up on people you don't like?

Some regimes have used for the purposes described in the OP, but that isn't really what it's for.

Are there any that haven't?
 
But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.
And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

Anarchy ??
 
... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Do you really believe that, or is it just the musings from a severely damaged mind?
 
But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.
And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

Anarchy ??

Not at all. Anarchy would give the majority free reign. The whole point of government is to control the angry mob, not to indulge them.
 
... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Do you really believe that, or is it just the musings from a severely damaged mind?

How is the statement wrong?
 
... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Do you really believe that, or is it just the musings from a severely damaged mind?


Yet you provide not one word in rebuttal, why is that?
 
... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Do you really believe that, or is it just the musings from a severely damaged mind?

How is the statement wrong?

If you don't understand how your remark might be inappropriate, you might want to discuss it with your therapist. I'm not qualified to help you deal with your belief that anyone you disagree with will point a gun at you.
 
... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Do you really believe that, or is it just the musings from a severely damaged mind?


Yet you provide not one word in rebuttal, why is that?

Because rebuttal of such a dumb remark is not needed.
 
But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.
And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

Anarchy ??

Not at all. Anarchy would give the majority free reign. The whole point of government is to control the angry mob, not to indulge them.
Based on your insane statements supra, you are clearly wacko and stupid.

I'm guessing that your I/Q is under 100.

100 is average -- it is your apparent maturity divided by your actual age.
 
Actually gov't is a useful tool for accomplishing those functions that it's citizens cannot do individually.
Like ganging up on people you don't like?

Some regimes have used for the purposes described in the OP, but that isn't really what it's for.

Are there any that haven't?

'Like ganging up on people you don't like?'

No, like fixing roads and bridges and building schools and parks and other public works. Or enacting social programs to help those who cannot help themselves, and trying to make sure the air and water are clean, stuff like that.

'Are there any that haven't?'

Sometimes gov'ts gang up on people but usually it's for other reasons than we don't like somebody so let's go kill 'em.
 
There is more than one anarchist wacko in this thread.


Yep, probably 1/3rd of this board are anarchist that would love to abolish the government. But yet, they'll judge africans for being poor and call them inferior all day long...WTF do you idiots think will happen to America if you get your way? lol
 
But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.
And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

Anarchy ??


The reason we have a constitution, Bill of Rights, and electoral voting is to prevent majority rule and ensure that all are represented equally. It also ensures that dictators will never rule this country.

There will be matters that a majority always support or reject but the constitution must be followed. That is how the minorities are protected.

Of course, in order to accomplish all that, we have to actually abide by the constitution instead of pretending it's outdated and no longer relevant. It was written to stop the true democracy that has taken down other countries as well as ensuring that people hold the power and not tyrants.
 
There is more than one anarchist wacko in this thread.


Yep, probably 1/3rd of this board are anarchist that would love to abolish the government. But yet, they'll judge africans for being poor and call them inferior all day long...WTF do you idiots think will happen to America if you get your way? lol

Don't make the mistake of believing what they say. They rant about wanting to do away with the government, but the minute any of the programs that help them were removed, they would be crying like babies. They don't want to do away with government. They just want to do away with government that helps others.
 

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