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[BULLDOG]

There is more than one anarchist wacko in this thread.

Yep, probably 1/3rd of this board are anarchist that would love to abolish the government. But yet, they'll judge africans for being poor and call them inferior all day long...WTF do you idiots think will happen to America if you get your way? lol

Don't make the mistake of believing what they say. They rant about wanting to do away with the government, but the minute any of the programs that help them were removed, they would be crying like babies. They don't want to do away with government. They just want to do away with government that helps others.

Really? Can you name one of these programs I want to keep?

I should have said programs and laws. Both are equally part of the government. I'm sure I could list lots of laws you would want to keep, but I'm not sure which programs that a crazy person, such as yourself might like.

He's not even a US citizen, or actually living in the US, so it is sort of a moot conversation.

Don't know or care if BriPat (Aka "fingerboi") is a citizen or not, but he is nuts.

 

[BULLDOG]

There is more than one anarchist wacko in this thread.

Yep, probably 1/3rd of this board are anarchist that would love to abolish the government. But yet, they'll judge africans for being poor and call them inferior all day long...WTF do you idiots think will happen to America if you get your way? lol

Don't make the mistake of believing what they say. They rant about wanting to do away with the government, but the minute any of the programs that help them were removed, they would be crying like babies. They don't want to do away with government. They just want to do away with government that helps others.

Really? Can you name one of these programs I want to keep?

I should have said programs and laws. Both are equally part of the government. I'm sure I could list lots of laws you would want to keep, but I'm not sure which programs that a crazy person, such as yourself might like.

This guy loves the idea of the 18th century. Hell, he wants to turn America into a third world country with massive slums..It gives him a massive boner!

You could be right, but I'm pretty sure he howls at the moon on a regular basis.

 

[bripat9643]

There is more than one anarchist wacko in this thread.

Yep, probably 1/3rd of this board are anarchist that would love to abolish the government. But yet, they'll judge africans for being poor and call them inferior all day long...WTF do you idiots think will happen to America if you get your way? lol

Don't make the mistake of believing what they say. They rant about wanting to do away with the government, but the minute any of the programs that help them were removed, they would be crying like babies. They don't want to do away with government. They just want to do away with government that helps others.

Really? Can you name one of these programs I want to keep?

I should have said programs and laws. Both are equally part of the government. I'm sure I could list lots of laws you would want to keep, but I'm not sure which programs that a crazy person, such as yourself might like.

So now you're back tracking. You admit there may not be any government programs I want to keep. As for laws, we don't need government to have laws.

 

[bripat9643]

There is more than one anarchist wacko in this thread.

Yep, probably 1/3rd of this board are anarchist that would love to abolish the government. But yet, they'll judge africans for being poor and call them inferior all day long...WTF do you idiots think will happen to America if you get your way? lol

Don't make the mistake of believing what they say. They rant about wanting to do away with the government, but the minute any of the programs that help them were removed, they would be crying like babies. They don't want to do away with government. They just want to do away with government that helps others.

Really? Can you name one of these programs I want to keep?

I should have said programs and laws. Both are equally part of the government. I'm sure I could list lots of laws you would want to keep, but I'm not sure which programs that a crazy person, such as yourself might like.

This guy loves the idea of the 18th century. Hell, he wants to turn America into a third world country with massive slums..It gives him a massive boner!

Yeah, right, and you want to re-create the third Reich.

 

[MisterBeale]

Yep, probably 1/3rd of this board are anarchist that would love to abolish the government. But yet, they'll judge africans for being poor and call them inferior all day long...WTF do you idiots think will happen to America if you get your way? lol

Don't make the mistake of believing what they say. They rant about wanting to do away with the government, but the minute any of the programs that help them were removed, they would be crying like babies. They don't want to do away with government. They just want to do away with government that helps others.

Really? Can you name one of these programs I want to keep?

I should have said programs and laws. Both are equally part of the government. I'm sure I could list lots of laws you would want to keep, but I'm not sure which programs that a crazy person, such as yourself might like.

This guy loves the idea of the 18th century. Hell, he wants to turn America into a third world country with massive slums..It gives him a massive boner!

You could be right, but I'm pretty sure he howls at the moon on a regular basis.

If I had to judge, just by first impressions, as someone who was just coming casually to this site, strictly by Avatars and signatures who is more sane, you would compare poorly next to him.

I am only a member here, but I regularly visit several different forums. I can tell you, these things do have an impression on visitors who read our posts.

This is something you should keep in mind if you at all wish to be taken seriously by anyone other than folks who don't already have an illogical rabid hatred of Trump.

Seriously.

 

[BULLDOG]

There is more than one anarchist wacko in this thread.

Yep, probably 1/3rd of this board are anarchist that would love to abolish the government. But yet, they'll judge africans for being poor and call them inferior all day long...WTF do you idiots think will happen to America if you get your way? lol

Don't make the mistake of believing what they say. They rant about wanting to do away with the government, but the minute any of the programs that help them were removed, they would be crying like babies. They don't want to do away with government. They just want to do away with government that helps others.

Really? Can you name one of these programs I want to keep?

I should have said programs and laws. Both are equally part of the government. I'm sure I could list lots of laws you would want to keep, but I'm not sure which programs that a crazy person, such as yourself might like.

So now you're back tracking. You admit there may not be any government programs I want to keep. As for laws, we don't need government to have laws.

I guess you're right FingerBoi. I try not to upset crazy people, so whatever you say is fine...............Is that a new frying pan you have on your head? Nice.

 

[BULLDOG]

Don't make the mistake of believing what they say. They rant about wanting to do away with the government, but the minute any of the programs that help them were removed, they would be crying like babies. They don't want to do away with government. They just want to do away with government that helps others.

Really? Can you name one of these programs I want to keep?

I should have said programs and laws. Both are equally part of the government. I'm sure I could list lots of laws you would want to keep, but I'm not sure which programs that a crazy person, such as yourself might like.

This guy loves the idea of the 18th century. Hell, he wants to turn America into a third world country with massive slums..It gives him a massive boner!

You could be right, but I'm pretty sure he howls at the moon on a regular basis.

If I had to judge, just by first impressions, as someone who was just coming casually to this site, strictly by Avatars and signatures who is more sane, you would compare poorly next to him.

I am only a member here, but I regularly visit several different forums. I can tell you, these things do have an impression on visitors who read our posts.

This is something you should keep in mind if you at all wish to be taken seriously by anyone other than folks who don't already have an illogical rabid hatred of Trump.

Seriously.

And you know just how much I value your opinion.

 

[OKTexas]

... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Do you really believe that, or is it just the musings from a severely damaged mind?

Yet you provide not one word in rebuttal, why is that?

Because rebuttal of such a dumb remark is not needed.

I guess you haven't been watching the Gorsuch confirmation hearing, commiecrats are pushing for the outcomes they want, regardless of what the law or Constitution says. I'd say he's was pretty much spot on.

 

[dblack]

But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.

And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

Just pointing out that majority rule is not the 'will of the people'. The will of the people is multiple and varied. Majority rule is imposing the will of the majority on the rest of the people.

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

I don't have a problem with majority rule. I have a problem with unlimited government, regardless of who's calling the shots.

I support constitutionally limited government that protects the rights of the individuals above all other functions. Too many people today envision government as a means of imposing the will of the majority on the rest of society.

 

[yiostheoy]

But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.

And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

Just pointing out that majority rule is not the 'will of the people'. The will of the people is multiple and varied. Majority rule is imposing the will of the majority on the rest of the people.

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

I don't have a problem with majority rule. I have a problem with unlimited government, regardless of whose calling the shots.

I support constitutionally limited government that protects the rights of the individuals above all other functions. Too many people today envision government as a means of imposing the will of the majority on the rest of society.

Majority rule is the best measure and definition we have of the will of the People.

 

[yiostheoy]

... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Do you really believe that, or is it just the musings from a severely damaged mind?

Yet you provide not one word in rebuttal, why is that?

Because rebuttal of such a dumb remark is not needed.

I guess you haven't been watching the Gorsuch confirmation hearing, commiecrats are pushing for the outcomes they want, regardless of what the law or Constitution says. I'd say he's was pretty much spot on.

SCOTUS justice selection is always just a matter of court stuffing.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

... is a useful tool for ganging up on other people and forcing them to bend to your will.

Socialism Is State Capitalism, Capitalism Is Communism for the Rich

So is Wall Street. Overthrow them both; don't take turns on whom we let enslave us.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.

The Preppy Republic

All that has led to is the pet minorities of the 1% being turned loose to tyrannize the majority.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.

And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

Anarchy ??

Not at all. Anarchy would give the majority free reign. The whole point of government is to control the angry mob, not to indulge them.

Eliminate Elitists

Only those who want Snob Rule call democracy "mob rule."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Actually gov't is a useful tool for accomplishing those functions that it's citizens cannot do individually.

Like ganging up on people you don't like?

Some regimes have used for the purposes described in the OP, but that isn't really what it's for.

Are there any that haven't?

'Like ganging up on people you don't like?'

No, like fixing roads and bridges and building schools and parks and other public works. Or enacting social programs to help those who cannot help themselves, and trying to make sure the air and water are clean, stuff like that.

'Are there any that haven't?'

Sometimes gov'ts gang up on people but usually it's for other reasons than we don't like somebody so let's go kill 'em.

Daddy's Money Talks and That's All You Hear

The modern Democratic Party is not democratic. Starting with the Kennedy HeirHeads, it was infiltrated by the degenerate brats of the plutocracy. Aristocracy and democracy cannot co-exist. You've heard it here first, and then will hear it no more.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.

And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

Anarchy ??

The reason we have a constitution, Bill of Rights, and electoral voting is to prevent majority rule and ensure that all are represented equally. It also ensures that dictators will never rule this country.

There will be matters that a majority always support or reject but the constitution must be followed. That is how the minorities are protected.

Of course, in order to accomplish all that, we have to actually abide by the constitution instead of pretending it's outdated and no longer relevant. It was written to stop the true democracy that has taken down other countries as well as ensuring that people hold the power and not tyrants.

Pathetic bootlickers of the Plutes Who Wear the Boots try to make us believe that their sacred cow, the Constitution, must be worshiped like Fundamentalists worship the Bible or Koran. Though they are powerless Buttboys for the Bosses, their preaching makes the Constitutionazis feel superior to the majority of Americans. Their Golden Calf should have been taken as a temporary start-up document, to be superseded by all subsequent legislation.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Actually gov't is a useful tool for accomplishing those functions that it's citizens cannot do individually. Some regimes have used for the purposes described in the OP, but that isn't really what it's for.

government is for whatever it is used for.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.

And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

Just pointing out that majority rule is not the 'will of the people'. The will of the people is multiple and varied. Majority rule is imposing the will of the majority on the rest of the people.

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

I don't have a problem with majority rule. I have a problem with unlimited government, regardless of who's calling the shots.

I support constitutionally limited government that protects the rights of the individuals above all other functions. Too many people today envision government as a means of imposing the will of the majority on the rest of society.

Americans Are Not Serfs, But the Constitution Is the Road to Serfdom

Every majority comprises many minorities. This is a Zero-Sum situation; power granted to other minorities takes rights away from the majority. The greatest good for the greatest number is the greatest goal a nation can strive for. You know perfectly well that your Masters in the 1% want to suppress and weaken the majority; that's the real reason they want an oligarchic republic instead of a democracy.

 

[OKTexas]

Government is necessary at some basic level.

The problem is that the left sees it as a way to right all the wrongs THEY want righted.

At the point of a gun.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Do you really believe that, or is it just the musings from a severely damaged mind?

Yet you provide not one word in rebuttal, why is that?

Because rebuttal of such a dumb remark is not needed.

I guess you haven't been watching the Gorsuch confirmation hearing, commiecrats are pushing for the outcomes they want, regardless of what the law or Constitution says. I'd say he's was pretty much spot on.

SCOTUS justice selection is always just a matter of court stuffing.

All I can say is republicans aren't very damn good at it.

 

[bripat9643]

But it is the Will Of The People that Government represents.

No, it's not. At best, in a democracy, government represents the majority of the people. We need strict limits on government power to prevent the majority from victimizing everyone else.

And you seem to have a problem with majority rule ??

If you don't support majority rule then what do you support ??

Anarchy ??

Not at all. Anarchy would give the majority free reign. The whole point of government is to control the angry mob, not to indulge them.

Eliminate Elitists

Only those who want Snob Rule call democracy "mob rule."

Wrong. People who understand reality call it mob rule. How does it differ?