Gun owners should have insurance, JIC

Ah, we see the libertarains and a few far right wanting to shirk their responsibility for accidental damage with cars and guns.

What about intentional use of cars or guns to kill: execute the driver or shooter.

The whole reason behind mandatory car insurance is that the volume of civil cases resulting from car accidents would swamp the system. Insurance is a way of reducing the # of cases to a more manageable level.

There is not the same issue with gun cases, so forcing insurance is not needed.

Also, considering RTKBA is a right, and driving a car isn't, different standards apply.

No...
We didn't have mandatory car insurance forever, it is a big scam by rich fuck heads in their Lamborghini's that drive like crap and car insurance company's... I hate paying $100 bucks a month for that crap.

I swear sometimes I want to purposely want to hit some one with my Dodge ram pick up or my Chevy duellie just to get my money back.
 
You, young Marty, are not the authority here on quotation style. Did you say it, you betcha your skinny pock marked ass (your boy friend told us) you did.

"There is not the same issue with gun cases, so forcing insurance is not needed" without out any fact, rhyme, or real reason. Give us some.

No one is stopping some from owning and carrying arms at all by requiring insurance.

It's infringing, which is the standard, not "stopping".

and quote properly you dime store hack.
 
Marty, you are not the authority, so whine all you want. You wrote, "It's infringing, which is the standard, not 'stopping'". And you are not a constitutional authority in even the loosest sense of the meaning. No constitutional right is absolute, unless my the religious right to believe whatever you want. Yes, gun owners can be required to carry insurance.
 
Marty, you are not the authority, so whine all you want. You wrote, "It's infringing, which is the standard, not 'stopping'". And you are not a constitutional authority in even the loosest sense of the meaning. No constitutional right is absolute, unless my the religious right to believe whatever you want. Yes, gun owners can be required to carry insurance.

No, they cannot if it infringes on their right to bear arms, which is the intent of gun grabbing jackasses such as yourself.

and quote properly, I would prefer to be able to see when you respond to my posts, not just the thread.

But such a courtesy is beyond a slack jawed simpleton such as yourself.
 
NYcarbineer writes that, "The Constitution says the freedom of the press cannot be abridged, and yet we have laws against child pornography.

What does your Constitution say about denying child pornographers protection under the First Amendment?" Ending Individual Liberty | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

That is true, and the logic applies to guns as well.

Child porn is a crime because the acts recorded are a crime. making someone insure their guns is just an end run around the 2nd, and more negatively impacts poor people.

Why do you have poor people farkey farkey?
 
Marty is floundering. He is not an authority on anything.

As Jesus says, Marty, the poor we will always have with us, but that does not excuse them for the wrongful if unintentional damage by their use of autos and guns.

Requiring the purchase of a reasonable minimum of insurance in both cases is reasonable and constitutional. You can offer nothing but your opinion to the contrary.
 
Marty is floundering. He is not an authority on anything.

As Jesus says, Marty, the poor we will always have with us, but that does not excuse them for the wrongful if unintentional damage by their use of autos and guns.

Requiring the purchase of a reasonable minimum of insurance in both cases is reasonable and constitutional. You can offer nothing but your opinion to the contrary.

it is not constitutional, it is infringement, just like the fees required by NYC to get a handgun permit or CCW.

Quote properly, or be reported.
 
NYcarbineer writes that, "The Constitution says the freedom of the press cannot be abridged, and yet we have laws against child pornography.

What does your Constitution say about denying child pornographers protection under the First Amendment?" Ending Individual Liberty | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

That is true, and the logic applies to guns as well.

Child porn is a crime because the acts recorded are a crime. making someone insure their guns is just an end run around the 2nd, and more negatively impacts poor people.

Why do you have poor people farkey farkey?
It is also a means of gun registration. A slick move by fucking gun grabbers like the Fakey here...
 
Marty is floundering. He is not an authority on anything.

As Jesus says, Marty, the poor we will always have with us, but that does not excuse them for the wrongful if unintentional damage by their use of autos and guns.

Requiring the purchase of a reasonable minimum of insurance in both cases is reasonable and constitutional. You can offer nothing but your opinion to the contrary.
… and you are??? Self proclaimed authority?
 
Ah, we see the libertarains and a few far right wanting to shirk their responsibility for accidental damage with cars and guns.

What about intentional use of cars or guns to kill: execute the driver or shooter.

The whole reason behind mandatory car insurance is that the volume of civil cases resulting from car accidents would swamp the system. Insurance is a way of reducing the # of cases to a more manageable level.

There is not the same issue with gun cases, so forcing insurance is not needed.

Also, considering RTKBA is a right, and driving a car isn't, different standards apply.

It's the same principle. We're turning our rights into something we have to pay for.
 
History tells us people rarely notice the important changes going on in society. Until it's too late.

We're in the midst of a subtle, but fundamental, change in the way we view human rights and the role of government. And nothing epitomizes this shift like the trend of mandatory insurance.

The entire point of government is to manage the risk of interacting in free society. When our actions threaten the freedom or security of others, it's up to government to resolve the conflict. Our government is constitutionally obligated to protect our rights and provide equal protection.

Making our rights conditional upon maintaining insurance coverage is, essentially, outsourcing the responsibility of mitigate public risk to private corporations. It makes our rights dependent on our ability to maintain a sponsor, in the form of an insurance company. In essence, and in practical reality, it makes us their slaves.

All freedoms pose a risk to others, and are subject to the same reasoning that has been applied to the current mandatory insurance laws. Do we really want to sell them to corporate America?
 
Morales is a moron.

In other news

Teen uses father's rifle to protect siblings from home invaders, KSNV, Las Vegas, Nev. 08/21/15

A 14-year-old was at home with his younger siblings when a pair of home invaders entered the house. The 14-year-old responded by rounding up his siblings and moving to a closet, where he armed himself with his father’s rifle. When one of the criminals discovered the armed teen, he fled along with his accomplice.

NRA-ILA | Teen uses father's rifle to protect siblings from home invaders, KSNV, Las Vegas, Nev. 08/21/15
 
S. Morales wrote, "Same arguments can be said for vehicles! Vehicles don't kill people, people driving them kill people, which is why they NEED insurance, JIC they on purpose or ACCIDENTALLY kill someone, or damage other people or things.

Gun owners should have insurance too, JIC they, you know, kill a bunch of people in the movie theater, or school, or whomever. On purpose or accidentally."

This makes sense. You own a gun, you own the responsibility to use it properly

Yes, I'm sure insurance companies would love for that to happen.
 
Fuck off take your more taxes and shove it up your ass.

Have not had a car insurance claim in 30 years

Have not used medical insurance in 35 years...

Shove it ....

That's exactly how you want your insurance to be. Best case scenario is to have it but no need to use it. Do you think all that money you spent on premiums was wasted, cause it wasn't.
 
'S. Morales wrote, "Same arguments can be said for vehicles! Vehicles don't kill people, people driving them kill people, which is why they NEED insurance, JIC they on purpose or ACCIDENTALLY kill someone, or damage other people or things.

Gun owners should have insurance too, JIC they, you know, kill a bunch of people in the movie theater, or school, or whomever. On purpose or accidentally."'

False comparison fallacy.

There is no 'right' to drive a car; there is an individual right to possess a firearm, however.
 

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