Harvard Study shows...the more guns in the hands of private citizens, the less criminal activity.

[koshergrl]

Shocking. When people defend themselves, they're not as likely to be robbed, killed, raped, etc.

"According to a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity.
"In other words, more firearms, less crime, concludes the virtually unpublicized research report by attorney Don B. Kates and Dr. Gary Mauser. But the key is firearms in the hands of private citizens."

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

 

[koshergrl]

"The popular assertion that the United States has the industrialized world’s highest murder rate, says the Harvard study, is a throwback to the Cold War when Russian murder rates were nearly four times higher than American rates. In a strategic disinformation campaign, the U.S. was painted worldwide as a gunslinging nightmare of street violence – far worse than what was going on in Russia. The line was repeated so many times that many believed it to be true. Now, many still do.
"Today violence continues in Russia – far worse than in the U.S. – although the Russian people remain virtually disarmed. “Similar murder rates also characterize the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and various other now-independent European nations of the former U.S.S.R.,” note Kates and Mauser . Kates is a Yale-educated criminologist and constitutional lawyer. Dr. Mauser is a Canadian criminologist at Simon Fraser University with a Ph.D. from the University of California Irvine. “International evidence and comparisons have long been offered as proof of the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths. Unfortunately, such discussions are all too often been afflicted by misconceptions and factual error.”

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

 

[NYcarbineer]

Let's get more guns into the inner cities to pacify the gangs.

 

[koshergrl]

Let's get more guns into the inner cities to pacify the gangs.

Can't, they're all gun free zones. Sorry.

 

[Brain357]

Shocking. When people defend themselves, they're not as likely to be robbed, killed, raped, etc.

"According to a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity.
"In other words, more firearms, less crime, concludes the virtually unpublicized research report by attorney Don B. Kates and Dr. Gary Mauser. But the key is firearms in the hands of private citizens."

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

Guns Don't Deter Crime, Study Finds

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Oh.....I see. An 8-year-old study....The data they used is over 10 years old.

So if someone else from Harvard, that bastion of left wing liberal detritus, decides to publish a study that doesn't meet with your approval, what will you do then?

Gun Violence Series Part 1: The Efficacy of Gun Control Laws in Preventing Gun Violence – Domestic and International Models
FEBRUARY 16, 2015
"""Australia and California provide substantial and representative data clearly establishing that common sense gun control laws significantly decrease gun violence at a domestic and international level. This fact begs the question, is it time for the United States to reconsider historically entrenched attitudes and follow the lead of numerous international peers and a few enlightened states in implementing legal reform to save the lives of thousands of its citizens?""

Gun Violence Series Part 1: The Efficacy of Gun Control Laws in Preventing Gun Violence – Domestic and International Models

 

[OKTexas]

Lengthy but good article, too bad the commies will poo poo it.

 

[koshergrl]

And watch them show up with all their partisan *studies*...

 

[gipper]

Let's get more guns into the inner cities to pacify the gangs.

Obama may be doing just that.

 

[Skylar]

"The popular assertion that the United States has the industrialized world’s highest murder rate, says the Harvard study, is a throwback to the Cold War when Russian murder rates were nearly four times higher than American rates. In a strategic disinformation campaign, the U.S. was painted worldwide as a gunslinging nightmare of street violence – far worse than what was going on in Russia. The line was repeated so many times that many believed it to be true. Now, many still do.
"Today violence continues in Russia – far worse than in the U.S. – although the Russian people remain virtually disarmed. “Similar murder rates also characterize the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and various other now-independent European nations of the former U.S.S.R.,” note Kates and Mauser . Kates is a Yale-educated criminologist and constitutional lawyer. Dr. Mauser is a Canadian criminologist at Simon Fraser University with a Ph.D. from the University of California Irvine. “International evidence and comparisons have long been offered as proof of the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths. Unfortunately, such discussions are all too often been afflicted by misconceptions and factual error.”

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

So Canada with about 1/4 the guns per citizen....has about 1/3 our murder rate.

Serbia with about half the number of guns per citizen has about 1/4 our murder rate.

Switzerland with about 1/3 the number of guns per citizen as we have has about 1/8th the murder rate.

New Zealand has about 1/5th the number of guns per citizen....and about 1/5th the murder rate.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

And watch them show up with all their partisan *studies*...

I did ya' one better. A Harvard study is only useful to you when it agrees with your agenda. So I suggest you go to the Harvard Law's website and do some research, and watch your gloat turn to bloat.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Shocking. When people defend themselves, they're not as likely to be robbed, killed, raped, etc.

"According to a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity.
"In other words, more firearms, less crime, concludes the virtually unpublicized research report by attorney Don B. Kates and Dr. Gary Mauser. But the key is firearms in the hands of private citizens."

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

Harvard? THat bastion of liberalism? Wow. The results of this study are going to cause the anti gun nutter's heads to explode.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

"The popular assertion that the United States has the industrialized world’s highest murder rate, says the Harvard study, is a throwback to the Cold War when Russian murder rates were nearly four times higher than American rates. In a strategic disinformation campaign, the U.S. was painted worldwide as a gunslinging nightmare of street violence – far worse than what was going on in Russia. The line was repeated so many times that many believed it to be true. Now, many still do.
"Today violence continues in Russia – far worse than in the U.S. – although the Russian people remain virtually disarmed. “Similar murder rates also characterize the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and various other now-independent European nations of the former U.S.S.R.,” note Kates and Mauser . Kates is a Yale-educated criminologist and constitutional lawyer. Dr. Mauser is a Canadian criminologist at Simon Fraser University with a Ph.D. from the University of California Irvine. “International evidence and comparisons have long been offered as proof of the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths. Unfortunately, such discussions are all too often been afflicted by misconceptions and factual error.”

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

So Canada with about 1/4 our gun ownership rate......has about 1/3 our murder rate.

And Japan has even less but also has a zero percentage of gun deaths.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Shocking. When people defend themselves, they're not as likely to be robbed, killed, raped, etc.

"According to a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity.
"In other words, more firearms, less crime, concludes the virtually unpublicized research report by attorney Don B. Kates and Dr. Gary Mauser. But the key is firearms in the hands of private citizens."

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

Harvard? THat bastion of liberalism? Wow. The results of this study are going to cause the anti gun nutter's heads to explode.

Better scroll back up a bit. I know you people don't fact check much less go to the source. So I did it for you.

 

[thereisnospoon]

"The popular assertion that the United States has the industrialized world’s highest murder rate, says the Harvard study, is a throwback to the Cold War when Russian murder rates were nearly four times higher than American rates. In a strategic disinformation campaign, the U.S. was painted worldwide as a gunslinging nightmare of street violence – far worse than what was going on in Russia. The line was repeated so many times that many believed it to be true. Now, many still do.
"Today violence continues in Russia – far worse than in the U.S. – although the Russian people remain virtually disarmed. “Similar murder rates also characterize the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and various other now-independent European nations of the former U.S.S.R.,” note Kates and Mauser . Kates is a Yale-educated criminologist and constitutional lawyer. Dr. Mauser is a Canadian criminologist at Simon Fraser University with a Ph.D. from the University of California Irvine. “International evidence and comparisons have long been offered as proof of the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths. Unfortunately, such discussions are all too often been afflicted by misconceptions and factual error.”

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

So Canada with about 1/4 our gun ownership rate......has about 1/3 our murder rate.

Canada has far fewer high crime areas. Canada has far less issues with illegal drugs and drug trade.

 

[koshergrl]

Shocking. When people defend themselves, they're not as likely to be robbed, killed, raped, etc.

"According to a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity.
"In other words, more firearms, less crime, concludes the virtually unpublicized research report by attorney Don B. Kates and Dr. Gary Mauser. But the key is firearms in the hands of private citizens."

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

Harvard? THat bastion of liberalism? Wow. The results of this study are going to cause the anti gun nutter's heads to explode.

It caused the Harvard yaks heads to explode..hence their subsequent *study* meant to contradict their previous *studies* lolol.

 

[thereisnospoon]

"The popular assertion that the United States has the industrialized world’s highest murder rate, says the Harvard study, is a throwback to the Cold War when Russian murder rates were nearly four times higher than American rates. In a strategic disinformation campaign, the U.S. was painted worldwide as a gunslinging nightmare of street violence – far worse than what was going on in Russia. The line was repeated so many times that many believed it to be true. Now, many still do.
"Today violence continues in Russia – far worse than in the U.S. – although the Russian people remain virtually disarmed. “Similar murder rates also characterize the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and various other now-independent European nations of the former U.S.S.R.,” note Kates and Mauser . Kates is a Yale-educated criminologist and constitutional lawyer. Dr. Mauser is a Canadian criminologist at Simon Fraser University with a Ph.D. from the University of California Irvine. “International evidence and comparisons have long been offered as proof of the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths. Unfortunately, such discussions are all too often been afflicted by misconceptions and factual error.”

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

So Canada with about 1/4 our gun ownership rate......has about 1/3 our murder rate.

And Japan has even less but also has a zero percentage of gun deaths.

Japan has a largely homogeneous society which thrives on law and order.
In Japan, serious crimes are dealt with harshly. Prisoners are not coddled as they are here in the US.

 

[OKTexas]

Oh.....I see. An 8-year-old study....The data they used is over 10 years old.

So if someone else from Harvard, that bastion of left wing liberal detritus, decides to publish a study that doesn't meet with your approval, what will you do then?

Gun Violence Series Part 1: The Efficacy of Gun Control Laws in Preventing Gun Violence – Domestic and International Models
FEBRUARY 16, 2015
"""Australia and California provide substantial and representative data clearly establishing that common sense gun control laws significantly decrease gun violence at a domestic and international level. This fact begs the question, is it time for the United States to reconsider historically entrenched attitudes and follow the lead of numerous international peers and a few enlightened states in implementing legal reform to save the lives of thousands of its citizens?""

Gun Violence Series Part 1: The Efficacy of Gun Control Laws in Preventing Gun Violence – Domestic and International Models

How about you post a study that looks at violent crime over all like the one in the OP instead of gun grabber propaganda?

 

[koshergrl]

Shocking. When people defend themselves, they're not as likely to be robbed, killed, raped, etc.

"According to a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity.
"In other words, more firearms, less crime, concludes the virtually unpublicized research report by attorney Don B. Kates and Dr. Gary Mauser. But the key is firearms in the hands of private citizens."

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...als-Astonishing-Link.aspx#jDdIsQzLPs2JuGVp.99

Guns Don't Deter Crime, Study Finds

Your study is one guy on a mission.


My study pulls from a variety of sources: "...a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity. "


http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...Astonishing-Link.aspx?p=2#7XKOkJMLXrrirhBE.99

 

[Dutch]

And watch them show up with all their partisan *studies*...

Partisan??
The Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy is a student-edited law review of conservative and libertarian legal scholarship. It was established by Harvard Law School students Spencer Abraham and Stephen Eberhard in 1978, leading to the founding of the Federalist Society, for which it is the official journal.

Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia