ninja007
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say literally anything the rcc believes? no.mary worship, graven image worship, purgatory, indulgences, the 7 sacraments etc.? no.
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wasnt alive back then.....so never heard him talk....say literally anything the rcc believes? no.mary worship, graven image worship, purgatory, indulgences, the 7 sacraments etc.? no.
It's curious when a religion leaves one with so little, people fill their time making things up about another religion. Truly, ninja, what you miss about the Catholic faith is that it lives the story of salvation, beginning with Genesis. The Old Testament/Covenants are a treasure trove of intelligence, knowledge, and instruction of God's works of salvation in our midst throughout time. Catholics are not only taught and reminded of this story, but are encouraged to take part in it--to live it.say literally anything the rcc believes? no.mary worship, graven image worship, purgatory, indulgences, the 7 sacraments etc.? no.
It works for us because it worked for Jesus. Christ claimed it was finished. The word He used on the cross, after He had been punished for ALL of our sin is Tetelestai:To reduce all this history, all these memories, all this life to, Claim Jesus as Lord and Savior, wake up in heaven, nothing more needed, nothing more to be done, it's finished, works for many.
It was used that way in the Greek language. There is a difference between the Greek language and Hebrew/Aramaic. In the other two languages, it refers to accomplished, consummated, finished. It has been noted that not only had Salvation been accomplished, God's will consummated, but also the fourth cup of wine for Passover had been finished.The most common use of “tetelestai” in Jesus' day was in debt collecting. When a person finally paid off a loan they were issued a receipt that was stamped with the word “tetelestai” which meant that their debt was now paid in full.
He used on the cross, after He had been punished for ALL of our sin
In the first quote, Jesus is being punished. In the second quote debt is being cancelled. Isn't it rather odd that Jesus' mission was to proclaim the forgiveness of sins, which he did, and yet this results in some holding the belief that upon having announced the forgiveness of sin, God is seen as forgiving the sins of the unjust, but also turning and punishing the one just man for the sins of the all the unjust that he said are forgiven.having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt
And yet that was exactly their plan. At the moment the Jews were sacrificing a lamb to temporary cover their sins, Jesus became the unblemished sacrificial lamb for us all, permanently covering our sin. It wasn't Jesus forgiving us and then God punishing Him anyway. The cross was the process in which the forgiving took place. There was an exchange. Christ took our sin and died for us, so we could take His perfect record and live with God in Heaven. There isn't anywhere in the Bible that calls what Christ did for us as incomplete, or pending our participation.In the first quote, Jesus is being punished. In the second quote debt is being cancelled. Isn't it rather odd that Jesus' mission was to proclaim the forgiveness of sins, which he did, and yet this results in some holding the belief that upon having announced the forgiveness of sin, God is seen as forgiving the sins of the unjust, but also turning and punishing the one just man for the sins of the all the unjust that he said are forgiven.
what you miss about the Catholic faith is that it lives the story of salvation, beginning with Genesis. The Old Testament/Covenants are a treasure trove of intelligence, knowledge, and instruction of God's works of salvation in our midst throughout time. Catholics are not only taught and reminded of this story, but are encouraged to take part in it--to live it.
have you ever heard Jesus....
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They guy who mows my lawn?
In Judaism there was nothing temporary about a sin offering, it was an atonement (often for wicked thoughts) being sent up to God.And yet that was exactly their plan. At the moment the Jews were sacrificing a lamb to temporary cover their sins, Jesus became the unblemished sacrificial lamb for us all, permanently covering our sin. It wasn't Jesus forgiving us and then God punishing Him anyway. The cross was the process in which the forgiving took place. There was an exchange. Christ took our sin and died for us, so we could take His perfect record and live with God in Heaven. There isn't anywhere in the Bible that calls what Christ did for us as incomplete, or pending our participation.
God's People are required to speak out against pagan deceptionIt's curious when a religion leaves one with so little, people fill their time making things up about another religion. Truly, ninja, what you miss about the Catholic faith is that it lives the story of salvation, beginning with Genesis. The Old Testament/Covenants are a treasure trove of intelligence, knowledge, and instruction of God's works of salvation in our midst throughout time. Catholics are not only taught and reminded of this story, but are encouraged to take part in it--to live it.
Jesus was baptized, often compared to the Great Flood cleansing creation; he announced the forgiveness of sins, and this forgiveness had been introduced in the Old Testament; next is the Eucharist, Bread come down from heaven, again following Old Testament salvation of manna coming down from heaven and the Bread of the Presence; Old Testament Prophets were given a special priesthood, just as Jesus gave the Twelve Apostles a special priesthood; the presence of the Holy Spirit, from Genesis on, with a special appearance on Pentecost; Jesus pointed to the way God intended marriage as a covenant not broken by divorce; he healed the sick, even saving some from death, just as Old Testament prophets had. These are the seven Sacraments, the way and history of Salvation from the beginning of time that Catholics are happy to be a part of and to live.
To reduce all this history, all these memories, all this life to, Claim Jesus as Lord and Savior, wake up in heaven, nothing more needed, nothing more to be done, it's finished, works for many.
Those wishing to live the story of salvation, the way of salvation, take a different tact. Earth and our life on earth still exists, where God's will being done on earth as it is in heaven is still to be achieved. Isn't God calling and inviting us all to take part in this chapter of his story, this part of the Lord's prayer?
Thank God for the "Crusades". The Muslim hordes were beaten back OUT OF EUROPE as they should have beenDifferent fellow. . ..
Does it matter? I honestly don't think Jesus cares how the faithful worship him so long as they do so with reverence and respect and do not harm themselves or others.say literally anything the rcc believes? no.mary worship, graven image worship, purgatory, indulgences, the 7 sacraments etc.? no.
There are many different offerings that the Jews practiced. For the removal of sins, the Jewish priest would enter the Holy of Holies once a year, and God would forgive the sins of the Jews until next year when the process was repeated.In Judaism there was nothing temporary about a sin offering
Some here say they have asked Mary for favors. That would fall under this category:There is nothing in the scriptures to say that we can't pray to Mary or the saints or whomever.